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Dontazemebro

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Is that the case after updating, though? That'd be where it's more important. I know the S3 has them, but it only explains two things; "this is your home screen" and "this is your app drawer".

Sense is more integrated which is why I prefer it to touchwiz and yes it does apply to full updates.


No need to be smart. I updated my post before your reply after realizing that. Either way, I wasn't talking about that before you guys brought it up. I was referring to the FEATURES of the Play Store, not the apps in it.

Sorry wasn't trying to be smart. Like I said I'm also an iPhone user and I'm not insinuating that one platform is more superior than the other. Just trying to inform where a lot of people are otherwise misinformed.
 

batting1000

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Sense is more integrated which is why I prefer it to touchwiz and yes it does apply to full updates.




Sorry wasn't trying to be smart. Like I said I'm also an iPhone user and I'm not insinuating that one platform is more superior than the other. Just trying to inform where a lot of people are otherwise misinformed.

Ok, gotcha.
 

Vegastouch

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Yes, but the year is worth the wait. Like I said, at least it's not sporadic and you can expect an OS update.

Sure if you like being behind the competition. I know you dont mind since you like a simpleton phone that just calls, emails and texts but most everyone likes more features and iOS is behind in that regard. And yeah, the iP4 will get an update, but not the full update so it isnt as rosey as you want it to be.

Anyone who bought an Android device within the last few months morethan likely isn't on the latest OS, had to root to get the latest OS, or won't be getting Android 4.0/.1. The reason iOS has maintained almost the same look for years is because changing too many things just startles the user and confuses them. With Android, it isn't an issue because A. most people don't get the latest OS so no one is confused or B. no one is confused because 75% of Android users are tech geeks who love huge overhauls.
The flagship phones will get them. The GS3 is going to get JB, the GS2 got ICS and i dont know if it will get JB. The Motorola phones are being updated to ICS. No word on JB but the point is, they arent that old and are getting updates just ike th iPhone is...who only get one once a year.

Ok, well you changed the subject from what I was talking about so you could say you were right.

No i didnt. I said the iPhone cost more. No kidding that they all are the same subsidized. But if you want one off contract, the P4S still costs more than the newer Androids. There is just nothing to not understand about that.

I already knew the 4S was more expensive off contract which is why I wasn't comparing those prices.

LOL...well that was the point wasnt it? Of course you didnt want to compare those prices. Because you know Apple dont care about you. And before you say they do, please lets go back and mention the two years it took to get MMS, Copy and Paste, and the years it took to get other things that Android has had for years that their customers keep asking for.
They didnt think they were neccessary.
They were probably reluctant to give a bigger screen and even in doing so, only made it longer. Its still too small.



Sure you can get a Gnex for 350, but not everyone can use an unlocked device. You can't use an unlocked device on Sprint or Verizon. The 4S has the same technologies as the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, and the One X, so how could you say it's an "old phone"?

What does that have to do with the high price of a IP4S off contract? So Apple can screw those who have CDMA?

There are many who would love to have a unlocked phone for $350 and those who have a GSM network can. And the IP4S has many things lacking from the GS3 and HTC X and GNex so how can you say it is even close? The only things it has better than the GNex is the camera and screen clarity. But it is a tiny screen.

Dont get me wrong, it is a nice device but it is far behind those phones.


You know what I mean. I didn't mean Apple builds them at an office in California...:rolleyes: I know they can't keep up and it's because of the high demand, which is why they start production months before release. Apple is not the only company in the world which can't keep up with the demand. Plus, the demand isn't as high after the first few weeks. Like right now, Apple is able to keep up because devices aren't being sold from stores and online as quickly as they were during preorders and when they were first released. My point is, it's hard for all companies to keep up when you have such a high demand for a product. This is nothing bad or abnormal.

OK, i wont argue there but Apple fell behind with some features they wanted to adsd to the 4S and they didnt get them because they couldnt get them done on time. I dont have specifics but you can do a search. I have seen articles on this before so they arent as efficient as you think.



The S3 is so similar to the S2, they were able to fit it into an enlarged S2 shell to keep it a secret as we all saw with the leaks. This was made possible by a similar form factor and more rounded off edges. Yes, I do thing Gingerbread is like ICS but on a TOUCHWIZ device because of how the UI looks. If it had the Gingerbread font, it's be pretty much identical sans the home screen launcher.

Um, no. Maybe you need to go back to Wikipedia and look it up because you are wrong!

When did I mention Google Now anywhere in my replies? I mentioned S Voice ("Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor"). Lol, you're just twisting my words to make your answers sound better.

Actually you never said a thing about S Voice. I just figured you were talkingabout Google Now since you kept claiming Siri did the exact same thing. I will agree however that S Voice isnt that great.
But Google Now is better than Siri.



I had actually read that page when it was first posted about a few days ago. No I didn't count them, but the lists don't look as comprehensive as the Wikipedia one.

To someone biased, it wouldnt. To somebody who isnt biased, it would.
 
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Vegastouch

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Because now that the Galaxy Nexus has the potential to impact sales, they decided to do it now. It was strategic to wait to it out to see how well Android did before jumping the gun.

This is what i meant when i said it didnt bother them before til Android started catching up. Now they start to sue everyone and in turn are getting sued by other companies that nobody has heard of.

It wasnt strategic, its called worrying and them needing to do something by tying to ban other products.

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Only the Play Store is capable of this. You can't have new software features without updating the phone.

Wrong again. You say your tech savy? Seems you dont know much about Android and yet keep making these claims that many keep correcting you on.
 

batting1000

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Sure if you like being behind the competition. I know you dont mind since you like a simpleton phone that just calls, emails and texts but most everyone likes more features and iOS is behind in that regard. And yeah, the iP4 will get an update, but not eh full update so it isnt as rosey as you want it to be.

iOS is not behind the competition in my mind, nor do I think it is ahead. iOS and the iPhone has just as much purposeful function as Android. Sure I can't add widgets or manage device files, but that's not what you focus on when using a phone. You focus on using it as a phone and keeping yourself entertained with apps, with a bit of customization here and there. You don't focus on manage SD card files and downloading this .apk and unzipping this or adding this widget, etc. I do admit it's nice to have a cool clock widget or whatever, but again that's all personal preference.

Sure, the 4 IS getting the update showing Apple is still committed to supporting it for as long as possible. It may not be getting the new Maps, but that's pretty much it, it's getting everything else, all the little enhancements here and there and all the new features. At least Apple knows you're spending all this money and they know you want to use it as long as possible. There's also a bit of marketing strategy thrown in there which takes a feature or two out to get you to buy the newest model, but still. Then there's the 3 year old 3GS on it's 3rd major OS update. That shows commitment.

The flagship phones will get them. The GS3 is going to get JB, the GS2 got ICS and i dont know if it will get JB. The Motorola phones are being updated to ICS. No word on JB but the point is, they arent that old and are getting updates just ike th iPhone is...who only get one once a year.

Yeah, of course the LATEST devices will get JB, but who knows which features it will or will not get. It's likely Samsung could exclude Google Now because they already have S Voice, and Now is one of the marquee features. Then there's the question of how long it'll take. The Epic 4G Touch just got it's ICS update this past week after 40 test builds. Compare that to 4 to 7 developer betas where most of the major bugs are removed after the first few. You're wrong there, iPhones get more than one update each year, whether it be a 0.1 update, a 0.2 update, or security fixes. Yes, they get one major upgrade a year, but that's certainly not the only one.

No i didnt. I said the iPhone cost more. No kidding that they all are the same subsidized. But if you want one off contract, the P4S still costs more than the newer Androids. There is just nothing to not understand about that.

Didn't say I didn't understand. Again, 90 percent of people buy phones when they are eligible for an upgrade. I'm not denying the iPhone isn't more expensive, but I'm just pointing that out.

LOL...well that was the point wasnt it? Of course you didnt want to compare those prices. Because you know Apple dont care about you. And before you say they do, please lets go back and mention the two years it took to get MMS, Copy and Paste, and the years it took to get other things that Android has had for years that their customers keep asking for.
They didnt think they were neccessary.
They were probably reluctant to give a bigger screen and even in doing so, only made it longer. Its still too small.

My original post said "Apple is asking the same price for the iPhone as Samsung is asking for the Galaxy S3 and the One X and other Android devices." I never mentioned the unsubsidized price.

Google must not care about you guys. Look how long it took them to make the UI smooth, lol. They probably didn't think it was necessary. I bet they wouldn't have released Google Now for a few more years if it weren't for Siri.

What does that have to do with the high price of a IP4S off contract? So Apple can screw those who have CDMA?

There are many who would love to have a unlocked phone for $350 and those who have a GSM network can. And the IP4S has many things lacking from the GS3 and HTC X and GNex so how can you say it is even close? The only things it has better than the GNex is the camera and screen clarity. But it is a tiny screen.

Dont get me wrong, it is a nice device but it is far behind those phones.

I never mentioned an unlocked iPhone 4S anywhere in any of my posts. You love putting words into my mouth.

What does it have lacking hardware wise? I want to know. :rolleyes:

OK, i wont argue there but Apple fell behind with some features they wanted to adsd to the 4S and they didnt get them because they couldnt get them done on time. I dont have specifics but you can do a search. I have seen articles on this before so they arent as efficient as you think.

You don't have the specifics, lol. It's called laying out all your features across multiple OS updates / multiple hardware models. They aren't gonna put every possible feature into one OS update or one hardware update.

Um, no. Maybe you need to go back to Wikipedia and look it up because you are wrong!

Explain.


Actually you never said a thing about S Voice. I just figured you were talkingabout Google Now since you kept claiming Siri did the exact same thing. I will agree however that S Voice isnt that great.
But Google Now is better than Siri.

Read this post: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15253691#post15253691

I didn't explicitly state "S Voice", but I did say "Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor"

To someone biased, it wouldnt. To somebody who isnt biased, it would.

Ok, lol.
 

jeffe

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Hi there folks,


4. Don't have to use iTunes, I can just drag and drop mp3 files onto the device as I would do with a thump drive.

You might also be interested in using either google play music (or even amazon). You just upload your mp3 to the service and they then become available through the google play app on your phone and through the web app on your browser. You can also store a local copy of the music on the device itself so you don't have to stream. There is currently a 20,000 song limit I think.
 

batting1000

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This is what i meant when i said it didnt bother them before til Android started catching up. Now they start to sue everyone and in turn are getting sued by other companies that nobody has heard of.

It wasnt strategic, its called worrying and them needing to do something by tying to ban other products.

You don't understand the concept of intellectual property. When you do, talk with me.

Wrong again. You say your tech savy? Seems you dont know much about Android and yet keep making these claims that many keep correcting you on.

Ok. Tell me how you can get a software update or the features from one without updating your phone. For example, how can I get Project Butter onto a Galaxy Nexus without updating it?
 

Darthdingo

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Lol. I assure you, Apple has nothing to worry about.

I bet RIM/BlackBerry said the same thing about the iPhone 5 years ago. I hope Apple doesn't stay too cocky, and think no one will best them, with that attitude, just a matter of time.

As if right now, I personally think the Galaxy Nexus running Jellybean, is the best smartphone on the market right now, until the iPhone 5 + Nexus-Four come out this Fall
 

jeffe

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Ok. Tell me how you can get a software update or the features from one without updating your phone. For example, how can I get Project Butter onto a Galaxy Nexus without updating it?

You update the App, not the phone.. Something like project butter requires an update to the Android framework. Something like being able to use google maps offline which is a new feature might only require an update to the Android app, but not the Android framework.
 

batting1000

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You update the App, not the phone.. Something like project butter requires an update to the Android framework. Something like being able to use the google maps offline feature might only require an update to the Android app, not the Android framework.

That's my point. I wasn't talking about apps. I know you can update those without updating the phone, lol.
 

Vegastouch

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iOS is not behind the competition in my mind, nor do I think it is ahead. iOS and the iPhone has just as much purposeful function as Android.

Fair enough. You say you wouldnt use the features so to you, it isnt behind. To most others not wearing the rose colored glasses, it is. Even those doing reviews.

Sure I can't add widgets or manage device files, but that's not what you focus on when using a phone. You focus on using it as a phone and keeping yourself entertained with apps, with a bit of customization here and there. You don't focus on manage SD card files and downloading this .apk and unzipping this or adding this widget, etc. I do admit it's nice to have a cool clock widget or whatever, but again that's all personal preference.

You act like these are tough tasks to do. And you dont need to unzip anything if you dont want to.

Yeah, of course the LATEST devices will get JB, but who knows which features it will or will not get. It's likely Samsung could exclude Google Now because they already have S Voice,and Now is one of the marquee features.

Why would they do that? Its a part of JB and its better than S Voice. Remember, JB is an update to ICS and when they do give you an update, i dont recall them ever giving you just pieces of it. They give you the whole thing.

Then there's the question of how long it'll take. The Epic 4G Touch just got it's ICS update this past week after 40 test builds. Compare that to 4 to 7 developer betas where most of the major bugs are removed after the first few. You're wrong there, iPhones get more than one update each year, whether it be a 0.1 update, a 0.2 update, or security fixes. Yes, they get one major upgrade a year, but that's certainly not the only one.

Yes, updates can be slow but they seem to really be wanting to make a big slash with this. Step one is telling the US carriers they arent going to put out 4 versions of the GS3. Trying to make things simpler and it was already announced that the GS3 was getting JB in Q4 so if i get it in Oct, ....im happy.

Google must not care about you guys. Look how long it took them to make the UI smooth, lol. They probably didn't think it was necessary. I bet they wouldn't have released Google Now for a few more years if it weren't for Siri.
Google has added new people to their team and thus making things better. If you watch th Nexus 7 video about JB, they say in there that they have declared a war on lag and JB runs flawlessly.
I never mentioned an unlocked iPhone 4S anywhere in any of my posts. You love putting words into my mouth.

You said "Sure you can get a Gnex for 350, but not everyone can use an unlocked device. You can't use an unlocked device on Sprint or Verizon."

I never mentioned an unlocked 4S either :confused:
What does it have lacking hardware wise? I want to know. :rolleyes:


Where did i use the word "hardware"?



You said Gingerbread was pretty much just like ICS so i told you that maybe you need to go back to Wikipedia so you look up the updates like you did for iOS. I didnt think it was confusing.



Read this post: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15253691#post15253691

I didn't explicitly state "S Voice", but I did say "Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor"

True but you were pretty vocal about Siri being just like Google Now and that were the same so thats what i thought you meant.

You don't understand the concept of intellectual property. When you do, talk with me.

Says the tech savy guy who is wrong on many of his claims.



Ok. Tell me how you can get a software update or the features from one without updating your phone. For example, how can I get Project Butter onto a Galaxy Nexus without updating it?

That isnt what you have been talking about. You have been corrected on the things you were talking about and now you say "I wasn't talking about apps. I know you can update those without updating the phone, lol." .....but the Apps is exactly what you were talking about.
 
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batting1000

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Fair enough. You say you wouldnt use the features so to you, it isnt behind. To most others not wearing the rose colored glasses, it is. Even those doing reviews.

If I had them, I might use them but it's nothing I'd say when trying to get someone to buy a phone or when suggesting a phone to someone, etc.

"Omg!!! This Android phone is so cool! I can have a clock and weather widget on home front screen!!!"

You act like these are tough tasks to do. And you dont need to unzip anything if you dont want to.

I don't act like they're tough. I'm merely pointing out how unnecessary is and how cumbersome they are. The iPhone and other phones without those features prove it's all unnecessary.



Why would they do that? Its a part of JB and its better than S Voice. Remember, JB is an update to ICS and when they do give you an update, i dont recall them ever giving you just pieces of it. They give you the whole thing.

Yes, updates can be slow but they seem to really be wanting to make a big slash with this. Step one is telling the US carriers they arent going to put out 4 versions of the GS3. Trying to make things simpler and it was already announced that the GS3 was getting JB in Q4 so if i get it in Oct, ....im happy.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/360526/20120707/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-jelly-bean-release.htm

Looks like it was just a rumor and Samsung is still evaluating whether the S3 will get it or not. The next Nexus will be out by the end of the year with Android 4.2 or 5.0 and 4.1 will be old and obsolete. Manufacturers won't have even released 4.1 to their devices yet. Just wait... :rolleyes:

Google has added new people to their team and thus making things better. If you watch th Nexus 7 video about JB, they say in there that they have declared a war on lag and JB runs flawlessly.

I know that, I was saying how it took a long time to stop the lag. Why couldn't they do the vsync and triple buffering earlier?


You said "Sure you can get a Gnex for 350, but not everyone can use an unlocked device. You can't use an unlocked device on Sprint or Verizon."

Yeah, what's your point? It's the truth, you can't use an unlocked device on CDMA carriers.

Where did i use the word "hardware"?

You didn't, but since we are already talking about software, I figured I'd ask how the One X, Gnex, or GS3 is better than the 4S hard-ware wise because you said:

"And the IP4S has many things lacking from the GS3 and HTC X and GNex so how can you say it is even close? The only things it has better than the GNex is the camera and screen clarity."


You said Gingerbread was pretty much just like ICS so i told you that maybe you need to go back to Wikipedia so you look up the updates like you did for iOS. I didnt think it was confusing.

The version history on Wikipedia for Android is significantly smaller than the iOS one.

Compare the feature lists for both:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history

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Says the tech savy guy who is wrong on many of his claims.

You don't understand that when companies have patents, they intend to protect them. The fact that the Galaxy Nexus is infringing on then just gives Android fanboys an excuse to bash Apple for doing so.

That isnt what you have been talking about. You have been corrected on the things you were talking about and now you say "I wasn't talking about apps. I know you can update those without updating the phone, lol." .....but the Apps is exactly what you were talking about.

I was talking about the Play Store and it's features, not the apps in the Play Store.
 
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Wrathwitch

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The size of the phone is hardly a problem, i see people saying they cant put a phone just a little bigger than the iphone in pants pocket a lot but personally i call that bs...... Unless you use extremely tight pants :) or i guess you didnt have a cellphone back in the day or never owned the big boys of nokia.

This is a lie. Unless you have an ass the size of Manhattan. I can ONLY carry it in my back pocket if I don't plan on sitting down. I cannot safely put it in my front pocket. I do not wear skinny jeans. I am a female and don't wear gangsta pants.

The fact is the phone is too large to be a pocket device without a great risk of damage. I still really like it, but now I carry a purse more often.
 

jvmxtra

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Obviously I rather have bit of change in ios along with different choice of size.

Apple will not do this and this will be the reason I move back to droid. I will go for samsung note 2
 

jvmxtra

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In iPhone we have created the monster. It used to be we bought them because they were so awesome. Now we buy them because of the brand. Almost like Microsoft. It needs overhaul
 

phil989

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I also recently switched to Android. Once my 3GS broke I didn't want to wait for the next iPhone and I was getting pretty bored of iOS, so I bought a Galaxy Nexus.

There are many great things about this phone. Jelly Bean is indeed very nice. However....I want my iPhone back! Here's why I'm planning to sell my Nexus and buy the next iPhone in a month or so's time:

  • The Nexus screen is so large that I find it hurts my hands to use it
  • Similarly, because the keyboard is so wide single-handed typing is inaccurate for me
  • Jelly Bean is better but....the thing lags. Android and iOS lag in different ways, but this phone lags with simple things like loading the keyboard or loading the task switcher. It's not awful or anything, but It just feels laggy and unresponsive - and this is coming from a 3GS owner with iOS 5...
  • Android apps really lack polish compared to iOS apps - even when the app maker is good and follows Google's design standards. Some apps are great, and most ae just about useable - but honestly it's more like owning a computer than a phone, with wildly different standards and design decisions between apps
  • I honestly don't find the customization as useful as I thought I would. Live wallpaper is pointless unless you want to slow down the experience even more, as are complex widgets. Rooting it voids the warranty....no thanks.
  • I experience a lot more frustration. Apple phones are locked down and limited, which means they can only annoy you in a set number of ways and you quickly learn to avoid or expect torublesome situations. With the Nexus, it's pot luck between apps and situations what the experience will be like.
  • Ergonmics. I've touced on it before but the iPhone is a much nicer size. Perhaps it's just me, but I simply cannot get used to this large phone. The whole physical and software experience just seems less pleasant to me versus the iPhone

That's about all I can think of for now. What it comes down to is this though:

I mostly need a phone for: Texting, emailing, phone calls, calendar, todo, browsing the web.

Browsing the web is quite nice on the Nexus because of the big screen, but it's not as pelasant and consistent across sites as Safari (stock browser, chrome, dolphin, opera, firefox - i don't think any are quite as simple and 'just works').

Calendar and email integration on Android is great when you use google calendar and google mail even with multiple accounts and advanced features like importance / labels.

But simple TYPING a message is difficult with such a large screen, as is holding the phone comfortably when reading text.

Oh and good luck finding software like this on Android.... http://www.realmacsoftware.com/clear/
 

Sensamic

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And then people say iOS is stable and secure and all...

My iPad 1 running 5.1.1 just froze completely while in the IMDB app. The whole system froze and couldnt get out of the app. I had to press at the same time home button and power button a few seconds for the device to reboot.

IOS is so stable, right?
 

onthecouchagain

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And then people say iOS is stable and secure and all...

My iPad 1 running 5.1.1 just froze completely while in the IMDB app. The whole system froze and couldnt get out of the app. I had to press at the same time home button and power button a few seconds for the device to reboot.

IOS is so stable, right?


Heck, my third gen iPad running 5.1 gets hung up really badly and crashed Safari when I tried to load the desktop Gizmodo site.
 

JayTruth

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First of all let me say that I've never had in iPhone, but I have used many of them with friends. However; I have had both 2nd and 4th gen iPod touches which I used to use everyday, before bed, while brushing my teeth, after waking up, during breakfast, dinner, everywhere lol, so I do know the iOS experience. I had a dummy phone accompanying me with the touch back then.

This summer I decided it was time to get a smartphone, so after lots of research I went with the Galaxy Nexus vs iPhone 4S straight from google and got tmobile's $30 plan with 100 mins. I mainly wanted it for the bigger screen for web browsing since that's mainly what I used my iPod for, and this was replacing my iPod and phone. Also, the iPhone doesn't get 3G speeds on tmobile, yet. I was very very happy at first. I have Jellybean now and it is a whole lot better. Very smooth, but I still miss iOS, obviously because I was so used to it. Everything phil989 mentioned above is true for me. For someone that was already so used to iOS, android just feels off. So this is some insight for anyone thinking about purchasing an android phone vs iOS.

Anyway, once the novelty of having a new experience wore off, the charm of iOS, the uniformity, cleanliness is tapping my shoulder. The main thing I miss is the smaller amount of apps, which I knew going in. It is not google's fault though; iOS came first and made its solid footprint. Many games usually release on iOS first and overall look better on the iPhone, because every iPhone has the type of screen (640x960 and the previous 320x480), which works because it's divided by four. Because of this fact, the app store apps look to be more polished. That's an obvious benefit which I don't know how google can get around.

Comes this fall, I do plan on selling my gnex and getting the next gen iPhone, whether or not it gets the bigger screen. It will be much appreciated though if it does. I really like the two tone design and elongated screen so I do want that. I don't want them to widen the phone, otherwise it might fragment the app store. They could just keep the resolution of the screen the same and widen it though, but apps may look odd. Overall, I'd rather them just make it tall, unless magic happens and apps still look perfect on a taller and wider new resolution phone. Either way, I do hope the leaked design is true and hope Apple has some secret feature to remove some of the recent bad blood people have toward them. That sounds kinda fanboyish but whatever lol. I am glad Samsung and others have brought the heat to what will be the biggest battle yet this fall. Oh ya and this was my first post!
 

gapperonduty

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I was also on the fence on this one...however after extended use with the gf's S3 I have changed my mind.

Correct me if I am wrong but the userfriendlyness that Android has been boasting eg: customizability, etc...is it not equally matched and in some case surpassed by a jailbreak of the iphone?

most of everything that android has, you can get the same with the jailbreak...

so the only selling point of an android phone, imo, is just the big and beautiful screen!:D
 

mattopotamus

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I was also on the fence on this one...however after extended use with the gf's S3 I have changed my mind.

Correct me if I am wrong but the userfriendlyness that Android has been boasting eg: customizability, etc...is it not equally matched and in some case surpassed by a jailbreak of the iphone?

most of everything that android has, you can get the same with the jailbreak...

so the only selling point of an android phone, imo, is just the big and beautiful screen!:D

true. Jailbreaking can make your phone go a long way in terms of customizing, but i like to use my phones stock as they are. I won't jail break my droid and i only did it once on my iphone.
 

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Hi there folks,

I have been an iPhone user since iPhone 3G and owned every iPhone iteration ever since.

In the meantime I would always check out competing android phones before each upgrade to see if they caught up to iPhone. The deal breaker for me then was that android phones didn't have as fluid UI as iphone.

After seeing the leaked images of iPhone 5 parts, i decided to finally jump ship. Making a phone just taller doesn't cut it for me. I use my phone in portrait mode 95 percent of the time and not increasing the width is a deal breaker.

I have finally bought an international version of Samsung Galaxy S3 with Quad-Core CPU.

What I liked about S3:

1. Amazing 4.8 inch screen. Before I bought S3, I always had to carry my iPad just in case if I needed to surf the net on the go because surfing on 3.5 screen is very uncomfortable. Now since I have S3, I haven't touched my iPad for weeks. While 4.8 screen can't replace an iPad, it's usable enough to not have to carry iPad wherever I go.

2. I can finally access files on my device(it has a file manager).

3. Can transfer files over bluetooth.

4. Don't have to use iTunes, I can just drag and drop mp3 files onto the device as I would do with a thump drive.

5. It has "true" multi-tasking.

6. Android doesn't lag in UI as it used to in 2.2 and 2.3. Overall the UI is as fluid as iPhone's

What I miss on S3:

1. iOS copy and paste is arguable slightly more usable, but maybe I am just not used to Android's implementation yet.

2. Slightly better selection of games in the App Store.


Overall I was very tired of the same old iOS. After seeing iOS 6 announcement, I finally realized how far ahead Android is.

At this rate of people jumping ship, I would be very worried if I were Apple.

I am not bashing Apple, I love their products, but I really couldn't wait another 1-2 years until they add features that have been available on android since 2.3
I, too, am currently test driving a Galaxy SIII (Verizon LTE). I very much agree with everything posted.

• The accessible file system makes juggling documents easier. While GoodReader on the iPhone does a fair job, there's no issue whatsoever about passing a document from one app to another and attaching documents to emails.

• The screen is every bit as good looking as the iPhone 4/4S retina display, or at least it is to my 42 year-old eyes. And the someone bigger text is a pleasant side effect.

• The keyboard & predictive text system that comes as standard on the Samsung TouchWiz UI is horrible and choppy (it is not the standard Google Android keyboard). SwiftKey from the Google market (Play Store) on the otherhand is fantastic. Much better IMHO than Apple's implementation. And the size of the screen makes accurate typing in portrait orientation effortless.

• Samsung S-voice isn't even in the same league as Siri. May not matter to some people, but I found Siri to be useful for reading aloud text messages is the car without ever looking away from the road.

• Evernote, an app I use constantly, seems to be better on Android than on iOS.

• The calendar app included with TouchWiz is much, much better than the standard Android calendar and also much better than the iOS calendar IMHO. I rely heavily on my calendar.

• Ability to set alternate default apps of course is something iOS doesn't allow.

• Pinch/Zoom in email is better on iOS. It's only fair on the standard TouchWiz email app and virtually non-existent in Google's Gmail app (which I'm not using as a result). For non-HTML email, I'd say it's a draw between iOS and the GSIII.

• The camera and camera app on the GSIII is superior to the 4S.

• Battery life is good, but not as good as the iPhone. I used to get through a full work day with 60% left on the iPhone. I'm at about 40% with the GSIII so far. We'll see how tweaking a few things helps.

• iCloud with Pages/Numbers/Keynote is great on iOS - fortunately still have my iPad for this, though Dropbox + any app on Android works nearly as well (or perhaps better in some situations).

I'll post more as the week goes on...
 

walie

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I was also on the fence on this one...however after extended use with the gf's S3 I have changed my mind.

Correct me if I am wrong but the userfriendlyness that Android has been boasting eg: customizability, etc...is it not equally matched and in some case surpassed by a jailbreak of the iphone?

most of everything that android has, you can get the same with the jailbreak...

so the only selling point of an android phone, imo, is just the big and beautiful screen!:D

I expect you to show me how an iphone is able to match the customizability of android on the day iOS6 is released then.
 
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