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[Technarchy]

No, I haven't mentioned Android in this thread. I'm not infatuated with it...

Who else steals from Apple Mobile and gets sued on large scale other than android?

 

[jeffe]

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The past two OS updates have each had roughly / over 200 new features. Find me an Android update that had that many new features / tweaks / enhancements in one OS update, or one with 10 new major features. A

This is not really an equal or fair comparison. Apple users had to update IOS to receive in-app purchases according to your chart.

Android users just had to download an update to Google Play. This did not require an entire update to the Android framework. So it seems that some features that might require an entire IOS update on apple are just simply an app update on Android.

 

[batting1000]

This is not really an equal or fair comparison. Apple users had to update IOS to receive in-app purchases according to your chart.

Android users just had to download an update to Google Play. This did not require an entire update to the Android framework. So it seems that features that might require an entire IOS update on apple are just simply an app update on Android.

It's because an in-app purchase on Android brings you to the Play Store to confirm billing info, etc. The iPhone does it all in-app, thus requiring extra to be added to the OS to fully support it.

Edit: Why is it not an equal comparison?

 

[Dmunjal]

Strange that they went after the Nexus just as the price dropped to $350 on the play store and it was due to get Jelly Bean.

Universal search is not exclusively to that device.

That's interesting. Didn't Android have Universal Search since 1.0? Why didn't Apple go after the original Nexus?

 

[batting1000]

That's interesting. Didn't Android have Universal Search since 1.0? Why didn't Apple go after the original Nexus?

Because now that the Galaxy Nexus has the potential to impact sales, they decided to do it now. It was strategic to wait to it out to see how well Android did before jumping the gun.

 

[cynics]

Who else steals from Apple Mobile and gets sued on large scale other than android?

Just companies that make them worry (point of our discussion). I mean that's a given, a company doesn't spend a fortune in lawyer fees, court cost, bad press, etc etc to sue an insignificant no threat company.

 

[jeffe]

Because now that the Galaxy Nexus has the potential to impact sales, they decided to do it now. It was strategic to wait to it out to see how well Android did before jumping the gun.

Apple was not granted the patent until December 2011 so I think that might have been probably a greater factor.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Yes, but the year is worth the wait. Like I said, at least it's not sporadic and you can expect an OS update. Anyone who bought an Android device within the last few months morethan likely isn't on the latest OS, had to root to get the latest OS, or won't be getting Android 4.0/.1. The reason iOS has maintained almost the same look for years is because changing too many things just startles the user and confuses them. With Android, it isn't an issue because A. most people don't get the latest OS so no one is confused or B. no one is confused because 75% of Android users are tech geeks who love huge overhauls.

Your information is just flat out wrong. Most android updates thru various manufactures do not change the UI. Sense running gingerbread to sense running ice cream sandwich is not going to confuse the end user as well as touchwiz. Tweaks have been made but there's nothing alarming there like you mentioned. Pure asop is another thing but this is where choice comes into play. You may want to call it fragmentation but I like to see it as having options. Thing is you can't make a blanket statement because not all android devices are one and the same. You're relating to android from an iPhone perspective and it doesn't work like that.

 

[batting1000]

Apple was not granted the patent until December 2011 so I think that might have been probably a greater factor.

I wasn't aware of that. That's probably a more likely reason.

 

[jeffe]

It's because an in-app purchase on Android brings you to the Play Store to confirm billing info, etc. The iPhone does it all in-app, thus requiring extra to be added to the OS to fully support it.

Edit: Why is it not an equal comparison?

Because apple updates are not the equivalent to Android updates. Android users benefit from Google updating many its Android apps through Google Play without Google updating its entire framework.

For instance, I can now rent and buy tv shows, I can now subscribe and view magazines. I could not do this a few weeks ago and yet my android OS has not been updated one bit.

 

[batting1000]

Your information is just flat out wrong. Most android updates thru various manufactures do not change the UI. Sense running gingerbread to sense running ice cream sandwich is not going to confuse the end user as well as touchwiz. Tweaks have been made but there's nothing alarming there like you mentioned. Pure asop is another thing but this is where choice comes into play. You may want to call it fragmentation but I like to see it as having options. Thing is you can't make a blanket statement because not all android devices are one and the same. You're relating to android from an iPhone perspective and it doesn't work like that.

Sense 3.0 to Sense 4.0 has the potential to confuse the consumer. All of the notification pulldown setting toggles are gone, there is a new multitasking UI, a new widget / shortcut adding screen, there's a new way to make folders and with the newer HTC devices, there's no menu button. Now I'm pretty tech savvy and I know how my way around Sense 4.0 because of videos I've watched and having used Sense 4 devices, but to the average consumer who doesn't do that, I could see it as confusing.

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Because apple updates are not the equivalent to Android updates. Android users benefit from Google updating many its Android apps through Google Play without Google updating its entire framework.

For instance, I can now rent and buy tv shows, I can now subscribe and view magazines. I could not do this a few weeks ago and yet my android OS has not been updated one bit.

Only the Play Store is capable of this. You can't have new software features without updating the phone.

 

[EnderTW]

I use & enjoy both an iPhone 4S and a new Galaxy S III.

I've been using Android along with iOS for a few years now. I keep up with iOS because I'm a longtime Mac user. Yet I must admit when it comes to smartphones this new Galaxy S III has really made a giant leap forward in both hardware & the Andoid OS.

What many non-Android users are unaware of is that Android smartphones are stand alone computers that don't require being backed up to another computer like iPhones do. Nor are they dependent on another device to be setup or activated like iOS has been.

Android being a fully functional computer with a file system is a stand alone device that interfaces beautifully with each of my Macs. Being a completely independent device is a huge advantage for Android. And believe me I'm a die hard MacBook Pro user that has been using Apple computers since 1991.

I'd never bash an iPhone OR an Android. They each have their merits.

As far as saying "while I already have so much invested in iOS apps". Yes that's true and I know how you feel. But that's like saying I've already invested so much, I'm going to let that hold me back from progressing to an even greater experience.

Believe me, once you get a new Galaxy S III you are so happy you quickly forget what you've spent in the past.

Finally, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy an Android, that's a personal decision. I'm not an "us vs them" type of enthusiast. I like all forms of devices & platforms.

What I am interested in is setting the record straight by sharing my knowledge in a neutral fashion so people have good information with which to make their own decision.

This sums it up for me word for word.

I think iOS is great I just don't think they're doing enough in the hardware or software realm for my personal taste.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Because apple updates are not the equivalent to Android updates. Android users benefit from Google updating many its Android apps through Google Play without Google updating its entire framework.

For instance, I can now rent and buy tv shows, I can now subscribe and view magazines. I could not do this a few weeks ago and yet my android OS has not been updated one bit.

Which is another reason why fragmentation is not that big of an issue. End users running older versions can still enjoy many of the features that are being released in newer versions.

 

[cynics]

That's why they'll never really be in worried. People will always buy iPhones and there will always be new customers. There are also many people on Android who are are just there till the iPhone gets a bigger screen or LTE. You cannot tell me people aren't going to be the next iPhone because of the design as though it's a flawed one or ugly one. The Galaxy S has only received tweaks over the years as have devices live The EVO and the Nexus, yet people still buy them.

The reason people are dissatisfied is because they are expecting too much of Apple. They want this size screen, that camera, this feature, and that feature when they know that's not something Apple would do. Since Apple started with the iPhone / iPhone OS, they've always released feature packed software updates.

Look at this picture:

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The past two OS updates have each had roughly / over 200 new features. Find me an Android update that had that many new features / tweaks / enhancements in one OS update, or one with 10 new major features. Apple is trying to appeal to the average consumer, not people who like to manage file systems and do all this other complicated stuff with widgets and all that. It's all to cumbersome which is why Apple has stuck to tweaking interface stuff slightly over the years alongside trying to add features that everyone wants, rather than overhauling the UI year of year like Android and the manufacturer skins do.

Just to note, Android native apps and features are updated without the OS. So if Gmail or say the maps apps are updated they are updated separately to the OS. So you don't need a different version of the OS to get an updated YouTube app.

 

[batting1000]

Which is another reason why fragmentation is not that big of an issue. End users running older versions can still enjoy many of the features that are being released in newer versions.

Yeah, if you care about what features the Play Store has. Lol.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Sense 3.0 to Sense 4.0 has the potential to confuse the consumer. All of the notification pulldown setting toggles are gone, there is a new multitasking UI, a new widget / shortcut adding screen, there's a new way to make folders and with the newer HTC devices, there's no menu button. Now I'm pretty tech savvy and I know how my way around Sense 4.0 because of videos I've watched and having used Sense 4 devices, but to the average consumer who doesn't do that, I could see it as confusing.

In my opinion those are tweaks. Sense still has the same social integration and the overall look is nearly identical. Also as soon as you start using sense 4.0 there are a plethora of on screen tutorials that walk you thru these changes. Trust me it's not as confusing as you're making it out to be.

 

[jeffe]

Yeah, if you care about what features the Play Store has. Lol.

Google updates many of there apps continually through the play store. More examples, Google voice updated to allow ICS users voicemail integration within the Phone app in March of 2012.

Google maps is often updated without requiring an update as well. 3D maps, compass mode, indoor mode are just a few updates that became available which I don't recall required an update to the Android framework.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Yeah, if you care about what features the Play Store has. Lol.

If you mean by Gmail, Google maps, Google play music, Google Books, Google Currents, Google Talk, Google Reader, Google plus, Google drive, YouTube, Google messenger, Chrome browser etc. Then yea I do care

 

[batting1000]

In my opinion those are tweaks. Sense still has the same social integration and the overall look is nearly identical. Also as soon as you start using sense 4.0 there are a plethora of on screen tutorials that walk you thru these changes. Trust me it's not as confusing as you're making it out to be.

I don't believe Sense 4.0 has any on screen tutorials. Sense 4.0 is not a tweaked UI, it's pretty much an overhaul of the things I mentioned.

Google updates many of there apps continually through the play store. More examples, Google voice updated to allow ICS users voicemail integration within the Phone app in March of 2012.

Google maps is often updated without requiring an update as well. 3D maps, compass mode, indoor mode are just a few updates that became available which I don't recall required an update to the Android framework.

If you mean by Gmail, Google maps, Google play music, Google Books, Google Currents, Google Talk, Google Reader, Google plus, Google drive, YouTube, Google messenger, Chrome browser etc. Then yea I do care

Unfortunately you have to actually update those yourself. They don't automatically update like the Play Store .apk does itself. You can tell it to auto update if you want though. That wasn't even what I was talking about. I was talking about FEATURES of the Play Store, not the apps in the Play Store.

 

[jeffe]

Unfortunately you have to actually update those yourself. They don't automatically update like the Play Store .apk does itself.

Android will notify the user that an update is available and they then have the option to allow updates to install automatically in the future if they so decide. It is really not so unfortunate as you describe. Why does this even matter anyways?

 

[batting1000]

Why does this even matter? It is really not so unfortunate as you describe. Android will notify the user that an update is available and they then have the option to allow updates to install automatically in the future if they so decide.

Well you randomly brought up a list of Google apps you like which I wasn't even talking about so I replied even though what you said was irrelevant.

 

[Dontazemebro]

I don't believe Sense 4.0 has any on screen tutorials. Sense 4.0 is not a tweaked UI, it's pretty much an overhaul of the things I mentioned.

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Yes it does. As soon as you log in with your Gmail account, there are on screen tutorials that walk you thru. If you choose to dismiss them, that's your prerogative.

unfortunately you have to actually update those yourself. They don't automatically update like the Play Store .apk does itself.

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Wrong again

Settings > auto update apps.

It's really that simple.

 

[batting1000]

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Yes it does. As soon as you log in with your Gmail account, there are on screen tutorials that walk you thru. If you choose to dismiss them, that's your prerogative.

Is that the case after updating, though? That'd be where it's more important. I know the S3 has them, but it only explains two things; "this is your home screen" and "this is your app drawer".

Wrong again

Settings > auto update apps.

It's really that simple.

No need to be smart. I updated my post before your reply after realizing that. Either way, I wasn't talking about that before you guys brought it up. I was referring to the FEATURES of the Play Store, not the apps in it.

 

[jeffe]

Well you randomly brought up a list of Google apps you like which I wasn't even talking about so I replied even though what you said was irrelevant.

Oh really when did I do that?

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I was referring to the FEATURES of the Play Store, not the apps in it.

That is the confusion, None of us were just talking about the features of the play store.

 

[batting1000]

Oh really when did I do that?

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That is the confusion, None of us were just talking about the features of the play store.

I wasn't referring to you directly. I meant you and Dontazemebro in general which is who posted the apps.

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The post I originally quoted wasn't talking about apps.

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Which is another reason why fragmentation is not that big of an issue. End users running older versions can still enjoy many of the features that are being released in newer versions.

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