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alent1234

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I expect you to show me how an iphone is able to match the customizability of android on the day iOS6 is released then.

a lot of us don't care about the customization, the live wall paper or any of the other cartoon stuff you can make your android phone look like. its 2012, a moving picture that moves from side to side is not that cool

iOS 5 penetration is something like 90% of the iOS installed base. android ICS is only 10% of the installed base. all the apps are still being coded for gingerbread. iOS 6 is going to have optimized apps come out for it before it ships. within a few months all the most popular apps will have been recompiled for the iOS 6 SDK

Google showed a nice OS but don't expect to see a good number of apps that take advantage of the new features until late 2013 at the earliest.
 

The iGentleman

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Jul 13, 2012
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Yeah, of course the LATEST devices will get JB, but who knows which features it will or will not get. It's likely Samsung could exclude Google Now because they already have S Voice, and Now is one of the marquee features.
That's quite a bit of speculation you're doing there. Especially considering, there's no precedent to back it up. I'd say it's much more likely it would be included, than not.

I bet they wouldn't have released Google Now for a few more years if it weren't for Siri.
The same sort of statements could be said about iOS. One could say Apple would not have added navigation, if not for Google Navigation. One could say Apple would never have added Siri if not for Google Voice Search. The same can be stated about iOS' notification center, multitasking, new quick messages (in iOS 6), and several other things.


I never mentioned an unlocked iPhone 4S anywhere in any of my posts. You love putting words into my mouth.

What does it have lacking hardware wise? I want to know. :rolleyes:
As much as I like the 4S, I can answer this with: NFC, HD display, notification light, and LTE to name a few.

-NFC is great for not only making purchases, but also for automating tasks on your phone using NFC tags.
-HD display - Watching a TV show or movie in HD is a better experience that not watching in HD...that simple.
-Notification Light - Something so simple is so useful. It's great to be able to look across the room and see if you have a text message, see if your phone is still charging, etc.
-LTE is just plain awesome, and now with the current generation of LTE chips, it isn't as battery hungry as before.

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Correct me if I am wrong but the userfriendlyness that Android has been boasting eg: customizability, etc...is it not equally matched and in some case surpassed by a jailbreak of the iphone?

most of everything that android has, you can get the same with the jailbreak...

so the only selling point of an android phone, imo, is just the big and beautiful screen!:D
No. A jailbreak can imitate the stock features of Android, but it cannot match the level of customization of a rooted Android phone. For example, a jailbroken phone cannot overclock or underclock the cpu. As for jailbreaking to match Android features and customization, the issue I have with this argument is this: Why should a person have to hack their phone for basic features? The features iOS users have to hack their phones to get, Android users have out of the box, so you can't really compare the two. You can't compare a hacked phone with one that isn't hacked. If you compare a hacked iPhone to a hacked Android phone, the Android is going to have the greater customization potential.
 

The iGentleman

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Jul 13, 2012
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With freedom comes beauty. :D

Agreed. I like this one the best.
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roxxette

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Aug 9, 2011
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I dont understand why people keep saying the iphone jailbreak is on par with android costums.
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
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Florida
No. A jailbreak can imitate the stock features of Android, but it cannot match the level of customization of a rooted Android phone. For example, a jailbroken phone cannot overclock or underclock the cpu. As for jailbreaking to match Android features and customization, the issue I have with this argument is this: Why should a person have to hack their phone for basic features? The features iOS users have to hack their phones to get, Android users have out of the box, so you can't really compare the two. You can't compare a hacked phone with one that isn't hacked. If you compare a hacked iPhone to a hacked Android phone, the Android is going to have the greater customization potential.

That's the thing, they aren't basic features. Basic features would be email, texting, browsing the web, downloading apps, etc. Androids customization features are add-ons/bonus features, not basic features. You may think they are basic because they are built in but that's incorrect.
 

tigert07

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Jun 17, 2010
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And its not stealing copying androids notification system? Or the reject call with an SMS? Or the camera lockscreen icon from Windows mobile?

Everyone copies everyone.

Google's Android is open, they can't sue people for taking their ideas. Their greatest feature is also one of their biggest downfalls
 

frag2

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Sep 23, 2009
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a lot of us don't care about the customization, the live wall paper or any of the other cartoon stuff you can make your android phone look like. its 2012, a moving picture that moves from side to side is not that cool

iOS 5 penetration is something like 90% of the iOS installed base. android ICS is only 10% of the installed base. all the apps are still being coded for gingerbread. iOS 6 is going to have optimized apps come out for it before it ships. within a few months all the most popular apps will have been recompiled for the iOS 6 SDK

Google showed a nice OS but don't expect to see a good number of apps that take advantage of the new features until late 2013 at the earliest.

And herein lies the problem with Android-too much fragmentation to the point app devs don't know how to cater to when building software.

Having used both Android [even in its infancy] and IOS, IOS just works albeit in a fixed fashion. With Jelly Bean, Android has caught up, for the most part, to IOS in all but the apps part. The latter an issue mainly in quality.

I see it like this: Apple and Windows phone is all about the experience first, then specs. Android phones is all about specs [hence fragmentation amongst manufacturers], then the experience. The gap Android has between Specs and Experience has significantly shrunken in the last year though.

Apple does need to up their screen to 4-4.5in and introducing some new aspects to their homescreens IMO to "keep" up. There will still be the fanboys that hound all Apple goods but to those discounting Android simply because its not Apple made is stupid.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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At this rate of people jumping ship, I would be very worried if I were Apple.

I haven't read this entire thread so my apologies if previously mentioned--based on this very recent survey, I don't think Apple has anything to worry about.

I think everyone here tends to forget that in general tech blog/forum readers are probably a bit more well versed in the use of their tech and represent a pretty small portion of the overall consumer market. Most smartphone owners barely scratch the surface of their devices capabilities and could care less about customizing/jailbreaking/rooting, have no idea what a file system is, wouldn't know how or need to transfer a file over bluetooth, think pentile is some sort of malady only affecting men, and probably couldn't tell you anything about the specs of their device if their life depended on it. Heck, if I mention to any of my family or friends that a new version of an OS is available and ask if they've updated yet, I usually get a blank stare like I was speaking another language. The point is, most, if not all of these great advancements are great but lost on the general consumer.

I just picked up a Galaxy Nexus to check out Jellybean and think it's a pretty great device but put it in the hands of any of my family and most of my friends and I guarantee they wouldn't think it's anything special.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
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Boston, MA
So does my iPhone. :)

To each his own I suppose. My iPhone looks almost identical to my fiance's, which looks almost identical to my friend's. Some people don't like this. Some days I don't care, others I am on the fence. If UI customization is an important factor in feeling like "your phone is your phone", anything running iOS is not the phone to choose. I think we can agree on that much.
 

SR45

macrumors 65832
Aug 17, 2011
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Florida
I haven't read this entire thread so my apologies if previously mentioned--based on this very recent survey, I don't think Apple has anything to worry about.

I think everyone here tends to forget that in general tech blog/forum readers are probably a bit more well versed in the use of their tech and represent a pretty small portion of the overall consumer market. Most smartphone owners barely scratch the surface of their devices capabilities and could care less about customizing/jailbreaking/rooting, have no idea what a file system is, wouldn't know how or need to transfer a file over bluetooth, think pentile is some sort of malady only affecting men, and probably couldn't tell you anything about the specs of their device if their life depended on it. Heck, if I mention to any of my family or friends that a new version of an OS is available and ask if they've updated yet, I usually get a blank stare like I was speaking another language. The point is, most, if not all of these great advancements are great but lost on the general consumer.

I just picked up a Galaxy Nexus to check out Jellybean and think it's a pretty great device but put it in the hands of any of my family and most of my friends and I guarantee they wouldn't think it's anything special.

You just described me, and I can bet a great number of others that buy the Apple phone in record numbers, and just about laugh ourselves onto the floor reading from those jail breaking,rooting and customizing enthusiast that cannot live without bashing the iPhone because Apple doesn't play with the other manufactures model, but follows their own path of simple incremental improvements, and that is the way I really like it, and the reason I will purchase the new updated iPhone 5.

I like the iPhone and what it does for me, and like it more than any Android phone because of its size, mature appearance, and iOS that is simple to use. I do not customize nor root nor jailbreak. For those that want the other, by all means buy it, enjoy it, play with it, and find the other forums to post on with others that are just like you.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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I like the iPhone and what it does for me, and like it more than any Android phone because of its size, mature appearance, and iOS that is simple to use. I do not customize nor root nor jailbreak. For those that want the other, by all means buy it, enjoy it, play with it, and find the other forums to post on with others that are just like you.

Actually... Android is easier to use than iOS. People think its otherwise but its not.

On iOS you have to go to the photos app to send them in an email, and you cant share any File to any app (like a photo to another app from within the photos app). You also cant change the default browser for when opening a Link in an email. To check your rss feeds you need to open a certain app. On android you can see them on a widget (the same with news, social updates, etc).

On iOS you need to Double tap for multitasking. On android one simple click on the multitasking button. On android you also have the back button which makes working easier and all.

Android is easier to use.
 
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Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
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Google's Android is open, they can't sue people for taking their ideas. Their greatest feature is also one of their biggest downfalls

Incorrect. The reason Google hasn't sued Apple for the notification center (yet!) is because the patent Google applied for in 2008 hasn't been approved yet. When it is though, Apple will be in a world of hurt.
 
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