My iPad pro 11' has it, i notice it and would not be without it, i know as i had a air 3 for awhile so could compare, my wife has a 11" iPad too and she wouldn't even know it has it, so.
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Other Looks like 120hz is not happening this year after all
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My iPad pro 11' has it, i notice it and would not be without it, i know as i had a air 3 for awhile so could compare, my wife has a 11" iPad too and she wouldn't even know it has it, so.
No 120 hz this year is going to be a problem for Apple! The Galaxy Note 20 Ultra’s screen is beautiful (PPI), has fast ultrasonic in-screen finger print scanner, hole punch 4K front camera and has 120 hz.
If/when they do include 120Hz, they will have a name for it like "Super Ultra Retina Damn That's a Sharp Display 2" and claim it's even sharper than any other 120Hz display out there.
"Our new display technology will give you the straightest lines ever on your phone".
Well 3-4+ I suppose but isn’t that the case every year? These phones don’t change much and very few upgrade annually in the grand scheme of things.
Extra ram? Better screen? Telephoto lens?
Can see where you’re coming from though, 12 pro is looking like a disappointment this year.
Was going to purchase 6.7” pro max on day one.
No mm wave or 120hz, can’t justify $2100-$2200, then $269 for apple care plus $AUD.
Might sell my xs max and get the non pro 6.1” $1199 plus $199 for apple care plus, huge price difference, then hopefully next year apple finally add mm wave and 120hz.
Curious to know why you want mmwave in Australia? As far as I know no one here is planning on launching mmwave anytime soon but I'd love to know if I'm wrong (I live in Brisbane).
Still thinking about what I want to do myself as someone looking to switch from Android. I like big screens so I'm tossing up between getting a 12 Pro Max this year and holding onto it for a few years while waiting for foldable/no notch iPhones, or get the 11 pro max for cheaper and then switch it out for a 12s/13 like you're going to do next year.
They reckon bidding is starting on mm early next year, should be up and running late 2021. Don’t like apple holding back technology for certain countries, if it’s available put in the damn phone.
12 pro max will last you 5-6 years. Won’t miss a beat.
Unless you’re buying second hand on someone, don’t like your chances of getting a 11 pro max at a cheap price, best I’ve seen at the moment is jb hi fi they have $200 off the 11 pro range lol. $100 off the 11 series lol.
I’d wait to see what apple has in store for the 12s before buying a 11 series phone.
If you can get something for around 1k until the 13s come out you’ll be doing alright.
It will new "revolutionary" when Apple does is. "The most fluid iphone EVAAAAHHHH!"
Oh wait they already do on iPad for years; it's important enough there for a "pro" device (that costs less than the phones too!) The hypocrisy of some Apple fans is just astounding bordering absurd to keep defending them at this point. But sure that 11S will be the best iphone evahhhhhhhh
Just like people didn’t care about widgets, wireless charging or wallpapers? Haha. Apple loves these kind of people.
Exactly. Most people have no idea what the specs mean, but when they see it then it makes a big difference in action. 120hz is one of those.
I have seen exactly zero phone reviewers say 90/120hz is not a noticeable difference over 60 in real life viewing of the display. And why people dont want it as an OPTION, when you dont HAVE to use it, is baffling. Other than just being an apologist by saying well well people dont want it so there! Or Apple fanbois are allergic to choice maybe
Dont get it anymore. I cant see why ANYONE would pay over $1000 for a phone if the well sub-$1000 models have OLED now and will have 5g too. For 1 camera nd 1gb or RAM (which iOS cant multitask anyway even like the iPad to use that extra RAM); and the gimmick that is LIDAR?
In prior years, sure LCD vs OLED was a huge difference. There is really no going back to LCD one you have used OLED.
And then you have the issue the 11 Pro series will be "better" than the regular 12s other than 5g so...Not much incentive to upgrade (and Im sure will get at least reply, "buh its not foh you! Its for older models to upgrade." BS, Apple wants as many upgrades and humanly possible)
Other than needing the best just because this year; but hey BAHAHAH ? away to them I guess. And in a pandemic, good luck selling those
Im done giving Apple insane money for old tech; no 120hz, smaller battery capacity (regardless of processor efficiency it has freakin 5g), same 2017 big a** notch. Luckily i own no other Apple products. Plenty of nice sub $1000 phones out right now with good specs and experience
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Why are they having such a hard time pulling off 120Hz on iPhones when ipads have had it for several years now? We're talking a smaller screen and fewer pixels.
Is it a power consumption issue? Why not just use variable frame rate depending on what's going on?
This just seems crazy.
Is it a power consumption issue? Why not just use variable frame rate depending on what's going on?
This just seems crazy.
Same reason the iPhones are going to be months late this year. Poor management. They are far too complacent these days because they are on top. They need to take lessons from other fallen companies who were once giants but got too complacent and sank.
A bit different- LCD vs OLED
But as per above, complacency IMO. See how many people thy can get to keep buying small iterations. When the top selling model phone is the 11, just a rehash of the XR, and Far too expensive for what it is n the current market of phones (its a $400-500 phone based on specs), why change? ? ? is king
Look at the Poco X3- 6.67" 120hz LCD, NO NOTCH/punch hole only, 6gb RAM, 64gb storage, HUGE 5160mah battery, yes a 732G mid-range processor, but $199!!!!! Sure you wont be filming music videos on it or taking pro level photos. But still...
There are planty of phones between $200 and $1000 with much better specs too. You dont have to spend $1000 to get a good phone these days and Apple simply isnt listening. There isnt anything "pro" about their Pro phones. The iPad Pro has earned its name is does have pretty decent specs for a tablet (I still think they need to go OLED like Samsung's tablet, but I digress there), and honestly $999 for that is way more worth that same price than the small Pro phone.
RIM/Blackberry comes to mind; from the top to bottom in a few years. Their complacency killed them off.
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Traditional 60Hz displays can still look better than 120Hz panels, at least in terms of color accuracy. This is especially true when comparing flagship-tier 60Hz panels to cheaper 120Hz displays. Overall quality is definitely more important than a slightly more fluid feeling user interface. Furthermore, just because a display boasts 90 or 120Hz capabilities doesn’t mean that the majority of the apps and content actually make the most of it.
just buy your "Porco", and leave us alone.
just buy your "Porco", and leave us alone.
You have zero clue what you are rambling about even. Poco was an example of value for money. NOT a comparison to a Pro/Pro Max. Of course a $200 LCD phone doesnt have the same display as a $1100-1200 OLED phone.
There are ONLY a few display manufacturers total. All from the same sources.
ALL displays are good right now. All.
But let me guess, yeh I do color accurate work on my tiny 6 inch phone
at Starbucks sipping my $10 latte in my skinny jeans as and need my P3 100% RBG color gamut, buzzword buzzword, perfect display on my tiny phone; because Im a "creatahhhhh!"Tech enthusiasts praise good tech no matter the level (entry/mid/high ends) or pricepoint; and dont put anyone's budget down.
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Every year Samsung fans say “This is going to be a problem for Apple” no matter what. It never is so just stop the quote is terrible and ridiculous. Even media outlets use it for all companies in competition. If you like Samsung phones, that’s great, they’re good phones. If you like iPhones they’re great too. But saying “feature” included or not included is going to be a problem for “corporation” is a ridiculous statement and it never is a problem so you just end up with foot in mouth.
I dont think that was the intent. But to $1000+ phone arent adding up to the competition.
Of course it wont "kill" Apple. As of April (at least the article says):
- iPhone 11 – 37.7 million units
- iPhone SE 2020 – 8.7 million units
- iPhone XR – 8 million units
- iPhone 11 Pro Max – 7.7 million units
- iPhone 11 Pro – 6.7 million units
But I agree with the premise that they are becoming less and less competitive at the flagship level though.
It’s not going to be a problem for Apple as the majority of their sales will be from non-Pro iPhones anyway. If it was all about 120Hz then surely everybody will just buy a Samsung then?
If it was all about 120Hz then surely everybody will just buy a Samsung then?
That's an impossible thing to prove since you cant get iOS on any other hardware You have literally no choice.
It would be interesting to see if something like an A71, big OLED, hole punch, 8 gigs of RAM, 128gb storage, 5g, big 4500mah battery, had iOS on it for $500-600. Im not so sure how many would still buy the more expensive lower spec Apple hardware with the big ole notch if there was choice.
Having choice is a big factor in all of that analysis.
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The choice is to buy a Samsung phone if hardware is the key reason but iOS tends to be more of a draw than certain individual features. Most iPhone users don’t spend £1k+ on a phone either so the lesser features seem to be just fine for most, otherwise all iPhone users would buy the Pros. If OLED had have been as in demand these past years then nobody would have bought the iPhone 8, XR or 11. It’s not always about the hardware.
Which is why they have their mid-ranger phone at $700ish. There no reaon they cant give a Pro phone Pro features.
So you think people spending $1099 aren't going to buy if it was $1199 but the same hardware as say a S20+? My guess is no not once you get to that price level.
And I do expect to apply to raise prices this year probably $50 too because charging brick and headphones at $2-3 per box arent making up $75-125 (per supply chain & Min Chi Kuo) for 5g. The math doesnt add and up and no way in hell Apple is taking a profit cut.
Bottom line being that there is no reason Apple cant make their Pro phone more Pro here. Even better excuse to do it if its only 20% of your sales you dont need 100 million expensive parts/dispays then; there should be no excuse not to be able to source LPTO 120hz OLED panels then.
End of the day Apple's 66% of mobile industry profits stands for itself. They're more concerned about the dollar and selling the cheapest built phone for the highest price. There's only so much you can put in a $1100-1200 device to keep price competitive and still make those profit margins.
There is no physical reason a $1000+ Pro phone shouldn't be competitive flagship hardware; and EVERYONE want that as the consumer.
Brand power is a powerful thing apparently. I cant figure out why people are loyal to a faceless corporation whose sole reason for being is separating you fro your money
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