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bobcomer

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So you got it becuase you misunderstood. That’s only your fault- it’s not anyone else’s. It’s certainly not a reason to be mad at everyone. Just admit it to yourself and move on.
How many times do I have to say I made a mistake in buy the M1 MBA? And just who else here did I blame? You guys really aren't reading what I'm saying I guess.
 

ADGrant

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I like new stuff and I was excited about all the hype surrounding the M1. I didn't know it didn't fit my usage -- I bought it the first day and believed Apple when they said I could run a Windows VM on it if I needed it, which I do.

As you've noticed, I said I made a mistake in this thread. Live and learn. I still have Apple devices and want to see them get better, so please don't say I shouldn't be here, that's just pure snobbishness.

If your usage includes running legacy Windows apps build for Intel CPUs then an Apple Silicon Mac was never intended to fit your usage. Apple has never promoted running Windows on their ARM based Macs. They do seem to want to support Linux VMs though. Presumably they want to keep all those developers who use Macs to write applications that get deploy to Linux.
 
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dgdosen

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I think Apple's goal with the 'pro' chips will be to remove as many of those goal posts as possible. At a fraction of the power consumption.
 

JMacHack

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I think Apple's goal with the 'pro' chips will be to remove as many of those goal posts as possible. At a fraction of the power consumption.
I for one will enjoy the butthurt and mental gymnastics of the comment section.
 

labyrinth153

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Anyone running workloads so time critical that the m1 is too slow already doesn't care that the m1 is too slow. They actually have work to do and are using hardware design to do it. Definitely not someone whining on forums. All I can say is the m1 was affordable, and many times faster at every task as my i5-6600 was.
 
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Bandaman

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Anyone running workloads so time critical that the m1 is too slow already doesn't care that the m1 is too slow. They actually have work to do and are using hardware design to do it. Definitely not someone whining on forums. All I can say is the m1 was affordable, and many times faster at every task as my i5-6600 was.
Yeah my M1 Air doodoos all over my maxed out 2017 MacBook Pro 15" ... and without a fan ... and with 4 times the battery life ... and for half the price. So I'm okay.
 

B.Bain

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thats why you stick with thinkpads
My 2019 X1 Yoga with a 10th gen intel and 16gb of ram is a piece of crap with a battery that doesn't want to be recognized as genuine. This is a known problem. I'll stick with the M1 MacBook Air over that Lenovo crap.
 

GrumpyCoder

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My 2019 X1 Yoga with a 10th gen intel and 16gb of ram is a piece of crap with a battery that doesn't want to be recognized as genuine. This is a known problem. I'll stick with the M1 MacBook Air over that Lenovo crap.
And that's why you use ThinkPads instead of the Yoga toys, where the TP provide 14-15 hours of runtime with the battery. ;)
 

Ethosik

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That bootup comparison is kinda dumb, but real-world non-Geekbench tests show the M1 is not exactly the apex everyone seems to dream it is (no, it's just more proprietary and locked-down):

The fact that the MacBook Air or base Mac mini beats out my $4,500 2019 i9 iMac says otherwise.
 

Ethosik

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Not sure if this has been posted but Windows now has Fast Boot. Which isn’t truly a cold boot anymore. Disable Fast Boot and my Windows on and NVME drive takes the same time as my M1 Mac mini.
 
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Argon_

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The goalposts always move until “PC wins”

The previous goalpoasts of "I can build a faster machine myself" were valid IMO. The recent arguments much less so.

People are saying. "But the 11900k is faster than M1. Therefore PC wins." The 11900k costs two thirds as much as an M1 mini, and will still run hotter, even with a 360 AIO on it. Never mind that 11900k+ 360 AIO totals to the same cost as an M1 mini.

I think the M1X will change the game yet again. 'You fool, this isn't even my final form.' What an anthropomorphized M1 said to an Intel chip.
 

Mikael H

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Faster boot / application launch times are not, IMO, it.
Switching to SSD improves the performance of any I/O bound task compared to a plain HDD. The entire computer becomes more responsive through faster I/O. That should be an overall improvement to most people, I’d say.
 
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Ethosik

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Windows still boots much faster from cold boot. In my case ~5-7 seconds for windows (sata ssd), ~20 seconds macos (nvme), same machine. It's probably apfs/trim that slows macos boot down but who knows exactly.
I don’t know if people exaggerate their boot numbers on a non fast boot system. But even on a freshly installed Windows 10 on a fast NVME, I get 10 seconds. Not 5. And when I install stuff, as of right now, it’s a 20 second boot.
 

Ethosik

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No they don’t.

Congratulations on having a laptop which boots slightly faster. For the rare times I have to reboot my Mac, I’ll just find something else to do for that second.
Actually yes there was an issue with Catalina as my 2019 i9 iMac was kernel panicing every hour. Apple confirmed it was an OS level issue and it was fixed with a later patch to Catalina. The issue came back with Big Sur, but was fixed within the first two updates.
 

raknor

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That bootup comparison is kinda dumb, but real-world non-Geekbench tests show the M1 is not exactly the apex everyone seems to dream it is (no, it's just more proprietary and locked-down):

That’s video showing the scores running the Rosetta version of photoshop. The M1 native version scores 800+ on puget bench, throughly trouncing what ever the Samsung laptop with the intel chip scores in this video.

So yes it is the apex Everyone claims it to be. It also does this with far less power consumed.

 
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m1maverick

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Switching to SSD improves the performance of any I/O bound task compared to a plain HDD. The entire computer becomes more responsive through faster I/O. That should be an overall improvement to most people, I’d say.
Unless the system is memory starved for the workflow being performed, assuming it is not I/O based, the overall responsiveness doesn't improve by any perceptible amount.
 

B.Bain

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And that's why you use ThinkPads instead of the Yoga toys, where the TP provide 14-15 hours of runtime with the battery. ;)
It was the most advanced Lenovo at the time. I doubt any experienced IT would ever call the X1 yoga a toy. But you go on with your little attitude where you know it all and remain grumpy.
And that's why you use ThinkPads instead of the Yoga toys, where the TP provide 14-15 hours of runtime with the battery. ;)
I don't consider a 2k+ Thinkpad professional laptop a toy. It was the most expensive and advanced at the time.
When it works it easily gets 12 hours on battery. But the professional Lenovo laptops from 2019-2020 are notorious for their bad batteries. I've never had a problem with any Macbook.
 
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