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M1 graphics is as we feared. Mediocre at best.
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I ran gfxbench on my MBP 16 with dedicated (Radeon Pro 5500M) graphics and the M1 is performing somewhat better (wins a lot of categories; loses a couple narrowly). So the M1 in the MacBook Air and MBP 13 ias giving same/slightly better performance than the decdicated GPU in the MBP 16. Not bad!
This definitely puts Intel, AMD and nVidia on the spot as a low power GPU block on an SOC is not only dominating every iGPU in existence but it is performing in the midrange for dGPUs. Their challenge is going to be to figure out the microarchitecture Apple has devised and then build their own solutions that improve both on performance and PPW to get the power requirements down.
Again: The M1 sounds very promising but wait for some real world testing before making such claims.
Lol. At best it hurts their laptop chip lines, and even then many people still rely on Windows, making M1 Macs a non-starter. These chips appear to be incredible, but let's not get carried away claiming total victory. They still have yet to release anything that competes with high-end desktops and workstations.
No. Apple Xe is discrete graphics product. It would *never* have landed in these sub-compact Apple products
The XE MAX is discrete, the regular Xe is intended to replace the current Iris, hence why its called Iris Xe
It would be easier to take seriously if they had labeled the new laptop "Air" or simply "MacBook" and not "Pro."
Pro implies high capability and RAM capacity >16GB.
It's a bit like calling your SUV a 'truck.' Not entirely wrong, but no one will take you seriously.
Pro implies high capability and RAM capacity >16GB.
It's a bit like calling your SUV a 'truck.' Not entirely wrong, but no one will take you seriously.
There are many levels of pro's, look at any pro sport, you get the guys making millions a year, and those scraping by...
The entry level 13in has never supported over 16GB, so... nothing has changed.
I think when they dropped the old 12" MacBook they should have renamed the two port 13" MacBook Pro to just MacBook.
Pros using 16GB or less will be surprised to learn this.
Damn it, I've been calling myself a Professional Engineer for years. But I'm really just a regular Engineer. This is so sad to learn.
Man, people seem to be forgetting the target audience for these new machines. The MacBook Air with M1 is not designed to destroy the Mac Pro, or iMac or the highest end MacBook Pro. The M1 will give the entry level Macs a massive performance gain as well as battery gains. This is impressive as is and should make the nerds and the people who actually need more than what the M1 is offering (only a small percentage of Mac users, and I'd imagine an even smaller number of MacRumor readers) excited for what Apple does next with the more 'Pro' machines - iMac, Mac Pro and higher end laptops.
I think if Tom Brady uses less than 32GB RAM we have to strip him of all 6 titles. Can't be a PRO without 32GB RAM.
It looks like the M1 can just about "Shred" an entry-level Nvidia graphics card from....4 years ago!
If it was beating an Nvidia 2060 (a.k.a last years entry-level GPU) that would be a different story. But it can just outdo a budget card from almost half a decade ago. So get ready for another generation of integrated graphical mediocrity.
Apple's M1 SoC Shreds GeForce GTX 1050 Ti in New Graphics Benchmark
Flexing that Apple powerwww.tomshardware.com
Actually, the entry level nVidia card from 2019 would be the 1650, not the 2060. The 20xx series are the cards that support ray tracing, the 16xx do not. That being said, the 16 series cards are no slouch, with the 1660ti (the card I have in my MSI rig) posting benchmarks that slot between the 1070 and 1080 for less than half the price. It's also a bad comparison to compare any integrated GPU (even the M1) to a dedicated GPU, and even more so when you consider that the three machines that use the M1 all had iGPUs to begin with - and crappy Intel rejects at that!
That's what I'm excited for. Apple has been making powerful chips for years. If they turned their attention to a graphics card.. it would be awesome!
This is one of the more idiotic things I've read round these parts in a while.
What's "an entry-level pro"? At best, I'd expect "entry-level pro". It's almost as if you were saying, "well, it is pro, but it isn't".
There are $1.5k pro products and there are $5k pro products. In almost any industry there are entry level pro products and top of the line pro products. If we take pro as in used by professionals, because not all people have the same requirements.
For example, in this context, a photographer or a graphic designer may only need a MacBook Pro for their work. An engineer or a software developer may need an iMac Pro or a Mac Pro.
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