Very disappointing for such a expensive garbage display ?♂️ Hopefully the mimi led iPad isn’t the same.
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iPad Pro M1 iPad pro reviews' recap
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As an Apple Shareholder, I definitely support their decision. The trade off is worth it.
The thing I'm a bit annoyed with is how there's a considerable number of folks dissing OLED. Just like they dissed phablets and widgets.
Apple will put OLED in the iPad Air next year, so we'll all get to see why Apple believes mini LED is #1.
Some people seem to be missing the big picture - Apple went against the established path of OLED to foster mini LED, even though OLED is cheaper to buy and has more suppliers (Samsung, BOE, LG, CSOT, etc.). Either Apple is really dumb or they understand the benefits and potential of mini LED.
Keep in mind this iPad Pro is only gen 1 mini LED. It's good enough in terms of black level and far exceeds OLED in brightness. The next gen will only get better.
Some people seem to be missing the big picture - Apple went against the established path of OLED to foster mini LED, even though OLED is cheaper to buy and has more suppliers (Samsung, BOE, LG, CSOT, etc.). Either Apple is really dumb or they understand the benefits and potential of mini LED.
Keep in mind this iPad Pro is only gen 1 mini LED. It's good enough in terms of black level and far exceeds OLED in brightness. The next gen will only get better.
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I get more frustrated at both sides not looking at each tech objectively and seeing the pros AND cons to both. OLED is a fine technology, with limitations. Mini LED is a fine technology, with limitations.
I am eager (hoping that) I will be able to enjoy both!
My iPhone 12 mini is an overpriced 5G hotspot due to OLED-induced migraines.
If the next iPad Air does move to OLED, I'd probably grab another Air 4 as a TouchID-capable backup. Either that or a Pro 11 if the face mask requirement has been lifted.
Agreed.
I have the 2020 iPad, kind of wished I waited just a bit longer but last year was crazy. May upgrade next year or after. Would love to have better black on my screen. But don't see the current iPad changing the way I would use it (hoping for WWDC).
DC dimming is popular on recent Chinese Android phones and hopefully, that feature will trickle down to Apple devices.
There's little you can do about that. That's getting into the realm of personal opinion & preferences, and it's going to vary widely. Some people think their personal preferences should take precedence over what Apple will do for what's best for Apple. Each year those same people will complain about Apple, there's nothing any of us can do about it, until Apple discovers a way to produce individual products for individual people.
Even then, some will still have complaints.
Because we don’t have tests of the new iPad from professional display calibrators.
the new iPad will have just over 3 times as many zones when watching a 16:9 or wider aspect ratio video. That won’t make a radical difference in the star field scenario. You posted a best case scenario (screen completely black), so I was posting a worst case scenario for Mini-LED (many bright points of light against a completely black background).
Mini-LED may have been the best tech for Apple’s goals. I’m just showing that it has trade offs. We’ll probably see more trade offs when this display gets into lots of people‘s hands.
Interesting video render test between the M1 and A12Z showing basically zero improvement in speed, I assume this comes down to software optimizations, but I had made a predication here weeks ago that while benchmarks would show 50% or 60% improvements, software itself would be more then 10% to 20% range... I wonder if that will hold as we move forward.
Apple went with Mini LED also (if not mainly) because it was not feasible yet to put promotion on OLED. Not even Samsung managed to do it, at least not at a reasonable price... And Apple was not going to give up promotion and give up battery life with 120hz fixed.
Mini-led has trade-off and OLED too, just not the same tradeoffs.
Apple chipsets are that good these days, unless you‘re really pushing them, you won’t notice much of a difference.
if you really want to see a difference, put the M1 in the iPad up against a exycrap Samsung chip or snapgarbage processors ?
Samsung's Galaxy Tab S7+ is AMOLED and supports 120Hz variable refresh rate. It sells for less than $800.
Can confirm the S7+ has an incredible screen, AMOLED, 120hz variable refresh rate, 9ms input lag (same as iPad Pro), it's a beast. I think it was on sale for around $500 through Samsung directly just a few months ago. IPad Pro is the top dog, but its' not the only player in town anymore.
A fair point, with the speed of the A12 being what it is, there's not a lot of room for "WOW!" left
Wrong. I have since launch. The refresh rate is fixed. Check your facts
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As I said above, wrong. The refresh rate is fixed, not variable (it's only variable on the S7, which is not OLED). That doesn't means it's bad, it just means that it uses more battery life because of this. And that's something Apple does not want, whether it's iPhone or iPad pro...
Otherwise, I bought it day one with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage, and I am pretty happy for video watching and as a second monitor. It's better than iPad for that (other than the fact that it lacks palm rejection when it comes to holding it, which translates into accidental video stopping, skipping etc. due to the small bezels). For any other tablet stuff I use one of my iPads. I would buy it again, and it's also one of the reason I don't need a mini-led iPad for the time being...
And while it beats the iPad in multitasking by a wide margin, it's still Android, so I don't use it for that, as Windows multitasks much better...
Oh, thats right... the S7 has adaptive, the S7+ has fixed either 60hz or 120hz, user selectable. I assume this has something to do with the PWM.
This is probably due to either cost or scale. Samsung could make it variable 120hz on the Note20 but not on the larger S7+... Also Samsung could not provide enough displays to Apple for the iPhone 12 pro for it to get promotion (this was confirmed by Prosser). I don't think the reason is PWM.
Here are 2 pictures I took comparing my iPad pro 11, my Tab S7+ and my iPad pro 12.9 (1st gen). All with matte screen protectors.
The first is with lights off, the second is with lights on (the true blacks are more visible with lights off, since the light does not reflect on the matte screen protector)
In the dark, you can't tell the black bars from the bezels in the S7+ but you can in the iPads
The first is with lights off, the second is with lights on (the true blacks are more visible with lights off, since the light does not reflect on the matte screen protector)
In the dark, you can't tell the black bars from the bezels in the S7+ but you can in the iPads
I did. The refresh rate is variable between 60/120Hz.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ review
The star of the Galaxy Tab S7+ show most definitely is the 12.4" Super AMOLED display with 16:10 aspect ratio. The panel has a resolution of 2,800 x 1752...
The issue was related to the driver IC not supporting 120Hz. The drivers are not supplied by Samsung. On an iPhone, LTPO would be needed to save power, but that's not important for a 12.9" tablet with a massive battery.
The big picture story is, Apple could have gone OLED/120Hz this year for iPad Pro. Samsung already did it a year ago. Instead, Apple chose to reinvent the supply chain with mini LED. It's riskier and costs more to build mini LED displays. The only reason to do this is because mini LED offers a lot more benefits than OLED.
You are just trying to play with words to justify a wrong statement. The review says clearly that this is not adaptive rate, which like promotion and like the smaller S7, adapts the refresh rate automatically. Here it just reverts to 60hz for apps that do no support 120hz and you can disable 120hz manually. This is NOT variable refresh rate.I did. The refresh rate is variable between 60/120Hz.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ review
The star of the Galaxy Tab S7+ show most definitely is the 12.4" Super AMOLED display with 16:10 aspect ratio. The panel has a resolution of 2,800 x 1752...www.gsmarena.com
It does make a difference, the smaller s7 with a 8000mah battery has better battery life than the 10000mah S7+. The rest is just your speculation.
I think you should consult a dictionary to understand the definition of variable. No said it was adaptive. Nice to see that you changed your words to match that.
Hopefully, you also realize variable refresh rates can be made adaptive by software.