M1 MacBook Air black uniformity (red glow)

[0906742]

I think even 12 pro lottery being horrendous, even if someone got 20 units, they wouldn't get one impacted by raised blacks / yellow tint / green tint, etc. either

I haven't had any of those myself. Only the ones with uneven tint and darker bottom of the screen. And as I said even shop demos I saw were like that and they were even from the different factory code than mine and all with different mf date.

even when I posted a black wallpaper, without icons, you enhanced the contrast of the photo to show it does in fact have it (which you adjusted a photo that was your own before adjusting mine - thats fine - we all make mistakes like me posting the photo of desktop icons that could've ostensibly masked the issue) when I admitted the photo shows it.

That is a lie because I have not edited and posted any of your photos here!
Could you link the post you are referring to??

one's luck can only be bad for so long.

Well I'm still in process to find that out if I get 12 Pro I can accept.

It's good to check someone to make sure they went through the gamut of tests, but you can't seem to accept someone doesn't have an affected unit either. And I'm saying you should/. Especially when those people accept that bad units exist, too.

Just asking some details to make sure as it is always easier to deal with someone who have actually seen the issue by themselves with their own units.

 

[thadoggfather]

May not have been you sorry

someone enhanced my photo to prove I had the issue when I said it showed up in photos but not to the eye

thought it was you. The overall point stands.

 

[0906742]

May not have been you sorry

May not? It was not me!

someone enhanced my photo to prove I had the issue when I said it showed up in photos but not to the eye

thought it was you. The overall point stands.

My point here again is that because photos look similar I want to make sure actual result for those who were able to see it by themselves in the first place.
As you can see the photos I have posted here after the ones in the starting post, mine looks in some of them better than yours, so I don't think it is irrelevant then to ask for some more details in cases like this.

 

[thadoggfather]

When I skim this thread I mostly see you challenging people’s posts rather than this being a thread people organically levitate to out of concern upon receiving their unit - like the 240 pages or so and growing of the yellow tint i12 one

that’s all

I’m not trying to put you down just offering an alternative perspective that good units do exist. Which you seem unwilling to accept

 

[0906742]

When I skim this thread I mostly see you challenging people’s posts rather than this being a thread people organically levitate to out of concern upon receiving their unit - like the 240 pages or so and growing of the yellow tint i12 one

that’s all

I’m not trying to put you down just offering an alternative perspective that good units do exist. Which you seem unwilling to accept

Could be that some just look these more carefully than some. Again as I said, I have not seen really yellow 12 Pro's, I think it is mostly peoples gotten used to look bluish screens. But then again just few complaining about the issue I see with almost every 12 Pro (so far I have seen only one good)... That is my point here as obviously this topic is again one of the things most probably could not care less.

 

[PVRP]

I just tested my M1 MBA screen uniformity and I find that there is noticeable red glow on the right side when display black image. Can other MBA M1 owners please test display full screen black image in a dark room with different brightness setting (it is very noticeable with brighter setting)?
Also I notice this red glow on the black bar when viewing video with black bars on the top and bottom (like 2.35:1 aspect ratio movie).

White image uniformity is good, no noticeable reddish then at the same location.

Also going above black image says 5% - 10% gray there is still this glow.

Please test so that I see if it is worth to enter panel lottery or is this common with MBA M1?
My MBP 2019 13" did not have this.

EDIT: Please mention your machine serial number first two and 5th character, so we can compare if they are from the same factory and what is manufacturing week?

Here is image how it looks with black image with display brightness 100%. Of course camera makes it looks a bit worse but it is still very obvious and surely can be seen with lower brightness setting. Please test and comment.
View attachment 1690187

My MBA M1 uniformity is very similar to yours. The blacks are really weak, but form me the thing that I notice more is the dark grays, white is ok.
I think it could from the assemblement, if apply a gently twist to screen back cover it changes a bit. I'm also a bit picky with screens, I also have a love hate relation with OLED. This LCD isn't the best thing.
I think it's a lottery having one almost perfect, I have already try that with oleds and smartphones, sometimes the replacement is even worst, and most people don't even notice this.
For me the issue with my MBA is the screen flickering after a long sleep and I use the power/touch ID to wake the laptop, I have to press twice i order to log in.

 

[0906742]

My MBA M1 uniformity is very similar to yours.

Do you mean you can also see red glow with your own eyes and not just in photos you take of the screen?

 

[PVRP]

Do you mean you can also see red glow with your own eyes and not just in photos you take of the screen?

Yes I can't, not in a bright environment, but indoors with low light or no light at all.
Not all the people that I point this can see it.

 

[0906742]

Yes I can't

You can or can't see red glow with your own eyes too?
I did not quite get what you meant.

 

[PVRP]

You can or can't see red glow with your own eyes too?
I did not quite get what you meant.

I can, lol, English is not my native language, but I don't know how I wrote in negative that stence.
By the way I call apple support, because the other issue I mention, and also question about the screen uniformity, they will call me back with a answer from the technical department.

 

[0906742]

I can, lol, English is not my native language, but I don't know how I wrote in negative that stence.

No problem. Me neither native speaking, so mistakes happen all the time for me.

So you can also see slight red glow on the right in dark or dim room in mentioned conditions?
I guess it is rather common with this model but there are couple in this thread who say they have problem free, so probably there are good ones too. But from what I have seen some comments even another unit could have shown that for some peoples, so I guess it is matter of luck unless later production units have some fix in them for this issue.

By the way I call apple support, because the other issue I mention, and also question about the screen uniformity, they will call me back with a answer from the technical department.

I'm pretty sure they admit it is not a feature, especially if you are still within 14 days return period. But I hope they actually have units without this for sure, so you do not just have to play panel lottery and possibly just get another unit with the same issue.

Please keep up updated how it goes and what they say.

 

[PVRP]

No problem. Me neither native speaking, so mistakes happen all the time for me.

So you can also see slight red glow on the right in dark or dim room in mentioned conditions?
I guess it is rather common with this model but there are couple in this thread who say they have problem free, so probably there are good ones too. But from what I have seen some comments even another unit could have shown that for some peoples, so I guess it is matter of luck unless later production units have some fix in them for this issue.


I'm pretty sure they admit it is not a feature, especially if you are still within 14 days return period. But I hope they actually have units without this for sure, so you do not just have to play panel lottery and possibly just get another unit with the same issue.

Please keep up updated how it goes and what they say.

 

[PVRP]

I'm out of the 14 days, but I reported a issue in that period, actually I have it for ruffly 20 days, so I think is a late build.
I think that could exist some units near perfect, but I also believe that most people don't even notice it.
In my country I have two years of warranty, so I have the right to fix or replace during that period. In the future if I decide to do so I'll ask for this to be fixed.

 

[0906742]

I'm out of the 14 days, but I reported a issue in that period, actually I have it for ruffly 20 days, so I think is a late build.

Yeah, you are covered for a while because you reported it within 14 days.
Can you list serial numbers first 2 and 4th and 5th characters? Those 4th and 5th show manufacturing year/week.

I think that could exist some units near perfect, but I also believe that most people don't even notice it.

That is exactly my impression too. As you can see some who comment about this issue say that is not normal conditions where they use the machine, so they don't even think it is a problem.

I just hope they have good units to ship for those who report the problem to avoid panel lottery, unless all late productions units are free from this.

 

[PVRP]

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[PVRP]

You are so lucky m ipad pro 11 2018 as ghost touchs, started with no motive, and it's out of warranty.
Also if you work with imagem software you are more trained to see colors, and if they are not solid they pop up to your eyes, some people have a real hard time understanding this.
In my case I don't need to go to a dark room and set up brightness max to see it, this MBA isn't so good as my previous Asus zenbook, concerning colors uniformity (dark greys).

 

[0906742]

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That is pretty new unit. Mine is 1 month older and there are some who have reported even older than mine, so it seems it is not just some one batch of panels having this. I doubt one batch would have been enough for many weeks production.

 

[SashaX]

Here are some pictures of my MacBook Air M1:


This one is black, with 100% brightness, no exposure when taking the picture with iPhone 12 Pro Max

This one is white, with 100% brightness, no exposure when taking the picture with iPhone 12 Pro Max

I think I've been lucky this time with the Air.
No backlight bleed, good uniformity in whites. Not much red tint.


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For comparison, a picture of the MacBook Pro M1 I returned because of the backlight bleed.

 

[bsmr]

I would go with MBP M1.
Much better display.
has both variants (and a few of them).

looks like you did not compare them in the right way. Exposure is different. So no real comparison.

every MBA does have red glow.
MBP don’t have it.

 

[SashaX]

Yes, off course the screen of the MacBook Pro is better. And the Air screen has red tint as all of them, it’s just that my unit, not too much.

But the screen of the Pro I returned had several backlight bleed, and for me that was worst.

Im not saying that the screen of MacBook Air is better than the screen of MacBook Pro.

 

[tis]

Here are some pictures of my MacBook Air M1:


This one is black, with 100% brightness, no exposure when taking the picture with iPhone 12 Pro Max


This one is white, with 100% brightness, no exposure when taking the picture with iPhone 12 Pro Max


I think I've been lucky this time with the Air.
No backlight bleed, good uniformity in whites. Not much red tint.


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For comparison, a picture of the MacBook Pro M1 I returned because of the backlight bleed.

My M1 MBA looks identical to yours. Slightly reddish on the right side when viewing a black screen at full brightness. No backlight bleed, though. I compared it to my Late 2013 MBP, and the MBP is WAY worse. It has red in the upper right corner, green in the upper left corner, and tons of backlight bleed. The MBA has much darker blacks and a seemingly brighter screen.

 

[Fred Zed]

Except for the NITs they are both the same screens with same issues, red tint on right and green left. Some have more some have less.

 

[AAPLGeek]

Except for the NITs they are both the same screens with same issues, red tint on right and green left. Some have more some have less.

This.

My M1 Air has green tint on the bottom left corner and red on the bottom right. The green is a little more pronounced than the red but it doesn't bother me under normal use.

Full brightness pic:

 

[wild_chickadee]

Hi all, what do you guys think, is my display on my M1 Air ok, or should i replace it?



Black with 100% brightness, without true tone:

30% brightness on white screen without true tone

I don't know if the display on the left side has a little too much magenta. Is this still ok, or above average?

 

[AAPLGeek]

Hi all, what do you guys think, is my display on my M1 Air ok, or should i replace it?



Black with 100% brightness, without true tone:
View attachment 1733428



30% brightness on white screen without true tone
View attachment 1733427

I don't know if the display on the left side has a little too much magenta. Is this still ok, or above average?

Looks fine to me. Keep in mind that there's a good chance of you ending up with a worse panel if you do a replacement.