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Someirishguy

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The hdmi and sd card port on these is totally unnecessary. WTF?! Everyone already bought connectors for these items over the last 5 years.

MagSafe was a mess. Yeah it was branded well but I didnt like it because my cables were always ruined and I had to spend a lot of money replacing it. Imo TB3/4 works great and haven’t had to replace it once.

Good grief… ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ That was a step backwards and for very little gain. The size is perfect. Apple could’ve added more battery capacity.
I’m waiting for my 16” Max, coming coming from a pre-2016 MacBook Pro. All my peripherals will work exactly as they do now - awesome (monitor / SD slot hard drive for time machine)! I did need to buy a usb c adapter..
 

Grohowiak

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My go pro has a usbc for connecting to it. I can also wirelessly transfer videos over. I already have a dongle. That transfers videos just fine.
Sell it, makes some extra $ and solve your existential crisis?
Win-win mate.
 

madsonit

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The hdmi and sd card port on these is totally unnecessary. WTF?! Everyone already bought connectors for these items over the last 5 years.

MagSafe was a mess. Yeah it was branded well but I didnt like it because my cables were always ruined and I had to spend a lot of money replacing it. Imo TB3/4 works great and haven’t had to replace it once.

Good grief… ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ That was a step backwards and for very little gain. The size is perfect. Apple could’ve added more battery capacity.

They couldn’t have added more battery as it’s already 100W. That’s the limit that TSA will let you fly with in any device.
 
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AZhappyjack

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Especially for DSLRs. And aren’t video cameras themselves obsolete in favor of DSLRs for video?


The camera industry has moved to XQD and CFExpress. Drones to micro SD. None of those fit in this slot.

So let me throw out a couple thousand of dollars worth of totally functional and useful equipment because the industry standards have evolved...

And no, within the last 15 months, we purchased $8K worth of video cameras for a live stream function... most DSLRs don't offer SDI output for streaming function...
 

fyun89

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The hdmi and sd card port on these is totally unnecessary. WTF?! Everyone already bought connectors for these items over the last 5 years.

MagSafe was a mess. Yeah it was branded well but I didnt like it because my cables were always ruined and I had to spend a lot of money replacing it. Imo TB3/4 works great and haven’t had to replace it once.

Good grief… ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ That was a step backwards and for very little gain. The size is perfect. Apple could’ve added more battery capacity.
If Apple added more battery, you might not be able to take it aboard plane due to air travel laws
 

anthony13

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Thats weird. I have two Logitech MX mice, one with an A adapter and the other without; the latter I got because the M1s only hade two ports which I didn't want to occupy just for the mouse. I haven't noticed any BT issues with non-adapter mouse. Regardless, if you are already using an adapter, can't you just attach a USB-C/A converter and just leave it connected.
I have two as well, but both perform with lag and drop outs when ever I use them without the unifying receiver. I've gone down a trouble shooting road with Logitech and basically they said I seem to just have too many bluetooth devices (which I thought was an odd answer considering I only have the mouse and the MX keyboard).
 
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Rashy

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Logitech MX3 Master user here as well. On my iMac 2017 I am also using the receiver, but it seems to run fine on my MBP 2015 without one. No idea about M1 + Monterey though... fingers crossed it will do fine.
 

spaceywilly

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I thought about this today as I was plugging in my single usb c hub that hooks me up to my monitor, charging, and external mouse and keyboard, all in one cable. Why would I want to plug in 3 separate cables for this? I can understand why some people may want dedicated ports in case they don’t have an adapter available, but for me I’d rather have a smaller thinner laptop and stick to usb c. More reason to wait for the M2 MacBooks next year.
 
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darngooddesign

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I have two as well, but both perform with lag and drop outs when ever I use them without the unifying receiver. I've gone down a trouble shooting road with Logitech and basically they said I seem to just have too many bluetooth devices (which I thought was an odd answer considering I only have the mouse and the MX keyboard).
Are you also using the Logitech software because im not.
 

Analog Kid

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And people who use DSLR as a placeholder term for cameras should have their views on cameras questioned because they are probably outdated. Legacy implies that the market has moved on to a new technology, but the majority of the camera market has not moved on so SD is current not legacy.

Canon, Nikon and Sony have all moved to CFExpress. SD is supported for legacy reasons only, and that's starting to sunset as well. The cameras underperform their top specs with SD. SD is obsolete.

You can continue making ad hominem attacks against me and debate whether I should have been more pedantic in explaining to other forum members that the term of art is now ILC if you feel that covers the failure of facts in your argument.
 
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Analog Kid

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So let me throw out a couple thousand of dollars worth of totally functional and useful equipment because the industry standards have evolved...

And no, within the last 15 months, we purchased $8K worth of video cameras for a live stream function... most DSLRs don't offer SDI output for streaming function...

The question isn't whether you should throw out your old SD cards, it's whether those of us that have moved forward should be anchored to the past when we buy thousands of dollars of new equipment.

Oh, and I would be remiss and discredited if I didn't point out that DSLR isn't the word you should be using anymore, you should use ILC instead. I'm reminding you for a friend.
 

petvas

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The hdmi and sd card port on these is totally unnecessary. WTF?! Everyone already bought connectors for these items over the last 5 years.

MagSafe was a mess. Yeah it was branded well but I didnt like it because my cables were always ruined and I had to spend a lot of money replacing it. Imo TB3/4 works great and haven’t had to replace it once.

Good grief… ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ That was a step backwards and for very little gain. The size is perfect. Apple could’ve added more battery capacity.
Again another thread where someone is complaining about things that other people love. I also have no use for an SD card, but there are people that do need it and for those people the new MacBook Pro is great. The HDMI port on the other side will probably be useful to most people, myself included. Apple gets rid of ports, people complain. Apple adds them back, people complain again.
You could complain though about the lack of HDMI 2.1 (the new MBP has HDMi 2.0).
I am glad that Apple brought back these ports, even if I don't use them most of the time. It's good to know that they are there.
 
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darngooddesign

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Canon, Nikon and Sony have all moved to CFExpress. SD is supported for legacy reasons only. The cameras underperform their top specs with SD. SD is obsolete.

You can continue making ad hominem attacks against me and debate whether I should have been more pedantic in explaining to other forum members that the term of art is now ILC if you feel that covers the failure of facts in your argument.
They have not all moved to those formats, but they are starting to, for example:
A74 - CFe and SD
A7R4 - dual SD slots
A92 - dual SD slots
R5 - CFe and SD
R3 - CFe and SD
R6 - dual SD
When Nikon added a second slot to the Z62 and Z72 it was SD instead of XQD
S1 - XQD and SD
S1R - XQD and SD
All Fuji’s cameras, including the 100MP medium format GFXs are SD

If the industry considered SD to be legacy they would do what Sony did with the A1 and use a slot that can take both SD and CF. I could list all the enthusiast full frame and aps-c cameras which exclusively have SD slots but it wouldn’t support your view.

TLDR - The camera industry still considers SD to be a current format. If you want XQD/CF on a Mac, just use a reader or connect a USB-C cable. In several years time SD will less common, just not yet.
 
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AZhappyjack

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The question isn't whether you should throw out your old SD cards, it's whether those of us that have moved forward should be anchored to the past when we buy thousands of dollars of new equipment.

Oh, and I would be remiss and discredited if I didn't point out that DSLR isn't the word you should be using anymore, you should use ILC instead. I'm reminding you for a friend.

Yeah, a little slit in the side of your laptop is truly anchoring you to the past...

And regarding ILC /DSLR, perhaps someone should inform Nikon.

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Suxamethonium

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So right now SD would be the most common format in cameras. Yes there are increasing numbers of high end cameras which use CFExpress, but they are the minority of bodies in peoples hands. As important as true 'pros' are for buying the high end MBP, I imagine Apple envisages selling a lot more to consumers, simply because there are a lot more of them, and most of them will be carrying around cameras which use SD cards.

So the option was to have no card support (when it is a heavily requested feature), include a CFExpress port (which needs more bandwidth and most purchasers won't have a camera currently that use it) or use an SD slot (which the majority of purchasers are using cameras which use SD).

In several years time as CFExpress becomes more ubiquitous that may well change, but by then Apple are hoping you will also be changing your MacBook Pro for whatever they are offering then.
 
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darngooddesign

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I’ll concede that SD could be considered legacy because there are newer formats, but that’s irrelevant because SD is used significantly more than XQD and CF combined so it makes sense for that to be the slot used and it’s not legacy in the sense of being obsolete. And ideal situation would have been for Apple to use a multipurpose slot which could read all three formats.
 
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Analog Kid

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Yeah, a little slit in the side of your laptop is truly anchoring you to the past...
A little oval hole in the side isn't making you throw away thousands of dollars in equipment either.

And regarding ILC /DSLR, perhaps someone should inform Nikon.
Sorry, you may have missed the context for this. I was being told in a separate post that I didn't know anything about cameras because I used DSLR in a response to your comment. I wanted to ensure I didn't lose further credibility by not being sufficiently pedantic.
 

Exponent

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Jul 17, 2002
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Be happy Apple didn’t totally cave and put useless ass USB-A Ports on the new MacBook Pro. Or Ethernet.
Yeah, because who ever has had a USB-A based thumb-drive handed to them? Or has had the requirement of high-bandwidth, impossible-to-jam secure communications?

Oh, yeah, that would be me. While I'm liking my 16" M1 Max, I'd love to have both USB-A and Ethernet ports back.
(And make that 2.5 GbE to 5GbE, while they're at it... 10GbE may be too much power / specialized wiring....)
 

darngooddesign

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A little oval hole in the side isn't making you throw away thousands of dollars in equipment either.


Sorry, you may have missed the context for this. I was being told in a separate post that I didn't know anything about cameras because I used DSLR in a response to your comment. I wanted to ensure I didn't lose further credibility by not being sufficiently pedantic.
Nah, I questioned your camera knowledge since you said DSLRs were used for video.
 
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phr1610

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The point I was trying to make is that the last generation MacBook Pro had 2 thunderbolt bus lanes. Now you have 3 thunderbolt bus lanes. If you care about thunderbolt, you are being well taken care of and Apple has made your life better with increased functionality in this new MacBook Pro. So why all the hate over adding other slots, even if you never use them?
I was being hyperbolic! But I forgot to put a winking emoji after my post. Sorry bout that….

Though I will say Apple hasn’t made my life easier with these ugly ass new devices, and the rumors that the new Air will be white ??? are completely believable given the ugly new design aesthetic the company has embraced.
 

bgillander

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I find it strange so many here are accusing the people that like the addition of the SD slot and HDMI port of living in the past, while arguing that Apple should have kept last years port arrangement. I guess they have no ability to recognize irony.
 

darngooddesign

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I was being hyperbolic! But I forgot to put a winking emoji after my post. Sorry bout that….

Though I will say Apple hasn’t made my life easier with these ugly ass new devices, and the rumors that the new Air will be white ??? are completely believable given the ugly new design aesthetic the company has embraced.
The new Air being white is believable because Apple has a long history of white laptops and iPads.
 

phr1610

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Yeah, because who ever has had a USB-A based thumb-drive handed to them? Or has had the requirement of high-bandwidth, impossible-to-jam secure communications?

Oh, yeah, that would be me. While I'm liking my 16" M1 Max, I'd love to have both USB-A and Ethernet ports back.
(And make that 2.5 GbE to 5GbE, while they're at it... 10GbE may be too much power / specialized wiring....)
I’ve said it before: there should be a slimmer, USB-C only model for people like me, and a “Homer Simpson Edition” for people like you that is 8 inches thick, weights 25 lbs, and has every port known to man.
 
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