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M1 Pro/Max's GPU performance for gaming is quite poor.
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Windows 10/11 x64 free without activation but watermark.
Or, Windows 10/11 Pro x64 key for $15 to $20.
Or, Linux Proton, PopOS distro or Wine + dxvk (DirectX to Vulkan wrapper) free and much more evolved as far as near Windows native fps and compatibility.
Oh my god, it's dipping down to 80fps on 1440p Ultra! Shoot that that piece of useless junk with a shotgun!
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Again, those cards are not just for gaming purposes. And the official workstations cards are almost exactly the same anyways. Also apple never once said “RTX 3080” in their marketing. We had to lookup the laptop they were comparing against to find that out. They were comparing the MacBook Pro to other thin notebooks in the market. And these MacBooks DO give us 3080 performance. It’s been shown by many tests. And many more tests. And this one too. It’s on the developers to harness that power by writing and optimizing their code for these chips.
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You were talking about crossover only but you made a mistake of the price you pay per month since the price for lifetime you got it right (no windows included)
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Want to rephrase this? Your response makes no sense.
Gotcha. I see you have no desire to actually have a discussion here but just want to keep propagating your unfounded claims and laugh react to everyone’s posts. Well good because frankly this discussion has been going on forever on these forums and if you still think that, then I guess it’s truly pointless as you clearly think you know better than the developers and chip designers in these forums.
Show me a gaming card with 48gb of ram.
I’m not knocking apples chip at all, merely suggesting that if apple claim equal performance to a card and laptop made for gaming. They can’t complain when people compare them.
Without proving doesn't make you right and those gaming testing proves it after all. How many times do I have to say that? You just wanna ignore actual problems.
Why? I don’t see how this is relevant? And RTX 3080 isn’t just made for gaming? Back in the day when I built my PC with a GTX 1080Ti - I used it mainly for *gasp* video editing, compositing and photoshop.
Those laptops aren’t just made for gaming.
RTX 3080 also used for productivity. What's wrong with that? Never seen people working with RTX 30 series? Mac isn't for gaming is such a stupid statement. You really dont believe that Windows can do gaming and productivity huh?
Can you show the debug steps you used to conclude this is due to buffer copy? Please post all the details.
Huh? When did I ever say Windows can’t do productivity? Didn’t I just say I built a computer with a 1080Ti years ago specifically for video editing, compositing, and photoshop? Lmao
Again the limitation is not hardware. It’s on the developers if they want to support Mac gaming.
You said, Mac isn't for gaming and yet Windows can do both without problems. That's your statement. Read again.
I did say macs aren’t for gaming. You are correct. I also said this has nothing to do with hardware limitations and everything to do with developers. I don’t see how that in anyways translates to “you really don’t believe Windows can do productivity and gaming do you”
I said, Windows can do BOTH. You keep saying that Mac isn't for gaming which is a stupid statement and yet you are blaming developers. Apple isn't helping the PC/Console gaming market at all and that's the fact. Developers dont even develop most PC/Console on macOS which already proves that you are wrong.
Do you have anything useful to contribute? Why are you so hurt that Apple’s M1 chips are killing it?
You joined a site called Mac rumors to talk about Windows. Clearly the M1 release ruffled your PC fanboy feathers. That just shows Apple is on the right path. It is getting x86 fanboys riled enough to let Apple live rent free in their heads.
Yes I am aware Windows can do both. As I’ve said, I owned a PC for 3 years. Developing for games and developing for video editing are not the same markets. Do you not understand this?
Developers build productivity software for Mac because that’s the market Mac catered towards. It’s financially lucrative for Adobe, Avid, Blackmagic, etc. to support Mac because there is a large user base. It’s worth the expense because there is a ROI. Gaming on Mac hasn’t been widely adopted because up until recently, 70% of all macs sold didn’t not have adequate hardware to run demanding games, and there was little demand. So there would be no ROI for many devs.
Things may start to change now that the bottom tier Mac actually has the hardware to run demanding games, but it’s on the gaming devs to support and optimize for M1 chips.
I’ll say it once again: macs are for creative workloads. Video editing markets have nothing to do with gaming markets. They are mutually exclusive. Video markets found Mac to be profitable, gaming markets have not (yet).
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Because it isn't. It's a fact. Do you have AAA games on the mac coming out regularly? nope. Do you have stellar gaming performance like you have in similar priced windows laptops? nope. Can you play natively millions of games across ages? nope.
Just cause it has the theoretical power doesn't mean anything.
Macs are not build for games in mind and it makes them subpar (to say the least) in this category to anything on the windows side ESPECIALLY in same price range. Every grandma and their dog knows this.
That's a dumb statement.
I'll rephrase... Show me the data that backs your theory
Creative workloads vs consumer / office stuff by device type and # of sales. Say macbook air vs pro.