My M4 Mini routinely shoots past 80C when running Affinity and some other stuff (safari with a couple of tabs, etc.,) using that Hot program to monitor. The whole time it is still cold to the touch? Haven't noticed a single issue...
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Mac Mini getting too hot
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That's not even close to hot. Most processors such as those manufactured by AMD and Intel have max temps around the 90-95C range, but the M4 apparently can go significantly above that, even 110C or higher in some cases. Unless you are getting either noticeable throttling or high temperature warnings from your Mac, there is nothing to even be concerned with here.
No but it’s hot enough to give you a third degree burn
Maybe if you fall asleep on it, it would take a really long time if it’s even possible. 3rd degree burns are charred skin, usually requiring 200+C.
?? Why do you claim "too hot" when an authorized Apple technical support center says it is normal? You need real data to prove your claim that there is a problem.
Really? 50º C or 122º F is hot enough to give a 3rd degree burn? Pretty sure it's not. 😊
My shower is set for 120° F, I doubt another two degrees would kill me.
This comment was truly difficult to read. And it’s not my comprehension skills.
It’s unusual for your Mac Mini M4 to overheat while idle, especially if Apple support found no issues. Have you checked Activity Monitor for background processes or tried resetting the SMC and NVRAM?
If you have the Mini on its side, make sure the bottom vent pointing down is not the heat vent.
Otherwise, you’re just sucking warm air back into the intake vents.
Otherwise, you’re just sucking warm air back into the intake vents.
I still have yet to have any major problems with the heat out of the M4 mini. I wrote back in December my experience with temps. When gaming yes I have seen temps hit 100 degrees. Though I have also heard that that is not unusual behaviour for modern chips. I saw an article sometime last year that was posted either here or somewhere on Reddit where an AMD engineer was talking about CPU temps. IIRC modern chips are designed to hit their thermal limits sooner and maintain those temperatures. I could absolutely be misremembering though.
I may be worth investing in TG Pro for anyone anxious about temperatures. You can set a more aggressive fan curve with it. Personally I let the system handle the fan itself unless I am doing something really intensive like Handbrake. While gaming, usually with WoW, I have yet to see any throttling negatively impact the performance.
I may be worth investing in TG Pro for anyone anxious about temperatures. You can set a more aggressive fan curve with it. Personally I let the system handle the fan itself unless I am doing something really intensive like Handbrake. While gaming, usually with WoW, I have yet to see any throttling negatively impact the performance.
What is the temp of your city? here is 30c on the morning and 27c at night. All year round.
Right now the ambient temperature is 21C, I have air conditioner for the summer.
If your ambient temp is so high then please double check the temperature readings.
My main temp from Sensei app is like yours - 40C but in ambient 21C room.
And Mac mini is cool to touch, sometimes slightly warm but definitely not hot.
If your ambient temp is so high then please double check the temperature readings.
My main temp from Sensei app is like yours - 40C but in ambient 21C room.
And Mac mini is cool to touch, sometimes slightly warm but definitely not hot.
Right now DropBox is indexing huge set of files, Sensei reading is 56C and enclosure is just little warm.
so, but when I log off the user, and do the test (I put my hand on top of it) after a few minutes it is already cold/normal. This problem only happens when the user is logged in (without any open problem). I will post the prints of the temperatures below
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have you done a full reboot? not just logged out, or rebooted from menu, but shutdown, waited a bit, then hit the power to turn back on - Yes
is everything up to date OS wise? yes, it is in the latest version
what is it physically setting on? low power mode on , wake up Lan OFF, Prevent auto-sleep when screen is off OFF
directly on a hard flat surface? Yes, on a glass surface. or something soft that might block airflow.
and it's free and clear of all obstuctions around it (2" or 5cm should be enough) - Yes, it is in front of the glass table. There is no obstruction on either side.
it's in a cool area of your home?
not sitting right next to another pice of electronics that's blowing out hot air. (or anything making heat), or in direct sunlight? is in front of my monitor
you say "when I log off, it cools down"
are you the only user account? yes
if there are others does it get hot for them also? i only have 1 user. I will create another and test. I haven't done this test yet
if you log on as a guest, does it still get warm? (may have to be enabled in users and groups in settings)
can you make a second user account, and see if it still happens? i will do that, thanks for the idea
my guess would be that you've got some weird process running, (as others have suggested, activity monitor will be your biggest help here).
The only process that is 'consuming' something is windowserver. But there are no open programs. Only those from the operating system itself.
I have a base m4 Mini, has run 24/7 without sleeping as a media server since purchased in November 2024. It sits inside a closed cabinet and I am always logged in. Just checked and it's cold to the touch, as usual.
based on your images everything is normal. if it's too hot to touch then don't touch it 😄
So, I don't think 50c is too much, on the contrary, I think it's normal. What bothers me is that the machine is idle without any program open and it's still very hot (when I put my hand on it) while when the machine is idle but with the user logged out it's cold.