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Reinstall the relevant apps? I must admit that I had to reinstall some apps when I updated to ml, but curiously not this time when I upgraded to Mavericks.
A HUGE thank you, and a couple of quick questions
Hi there guys, first up a massive thank you to all those who worked on making it possible to get Mavericks onto the old MacPro machines. I am currently writing this message on my 2006 MP 1,1
I have a few questions related to the graphics card if you don't mind.
I have noticed the glitchy graphics as others have mentioned, when scrolling in a browser, but also I tried playing a few movie files in VLC and they didn't play? Could hear sound but no picture. Could the failure to play the movies be down to the graphics card, as I'm assuming VLC had all the necessary codecs? I have the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 9 MB (according to the system profiler)
Now that I know that the install actually works, I will look at getting a new GPU, but was wondering what my best option is? Having read multiple threads, I am leaning towards the Apple version of the 5770 since I know it was used in subsequent MP models and so should just work, but it is very very pricey. Is there another option for a 2006 that is a straight plug in that I wouldn't have to flash ram, or do anything too technical?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there guys, first up a massive thank you to all those who worked on making it possible to get Mavericks onto the old MacPro machines. I am currently writing this message on my 2006 MP 1,1
I have a few questions related to the graphics card if you don't mind.
I have noticed the glitchy graphics as others have mentioned, when scrolling in a browser, but also I tried playing a few movie files in VLC and they didn't play? Could hear sound but no picture. Could the failure to play the movies be down to the graphics card, as I'm assuming VLC had all the necessary codecs? I have the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 9 MB (according to the system profiler)
Now that I know that the install actually works, I will look at getting a new GPU, but was wondering what my best option is? Having read multiple threads, I am leaning towards the Apple version of the 5770 since I know it was used in subsequent MP models and so should just work, but it is very very pricey. Is there another option for a 2006 that is a straight plug in that I wouldn't have to flash ram, or do anything too technical?
Thanks in advance.
Greeting all,
I’m a real old time lurker, who used to post here back before the dawn of the OS X days.
In fact it’s been so long I couldn’t remember my old account info or my old email address after many tries to log in, so I had to create a new profile.
First off, I just HAD to chime in and thank tiamo for his boot loader patch !
Just WOW man, thanks !
I tried a couple of times, in the past few years, to use Chameleon and some other tricks to get 10.8 and then 10.9 going, but I found them just too kludgy and finicky for everyday use.
I have to say your is efi patch pure genius ! !
I’ve been running 10.9.1 for about a month now, and it’s totally seamless on my Mac Pro 1,1 maxed out on RAM w/ a Geforce 610 GT.
Thanks again man !!
My second reason for re-upping and posting here again is a question.
Has anyone got the recovery partition working with the modified “boot.efi” file ?
I know I can boot off my modified installer USB stick, but when I tried to burn the modified installer back to a “installESD” dmg and put it on my recovery partition I still can’t boot from it.
There must be some kind of checksum check happening, because sometimes I get an error and sometimes the “Command R” keys are just ignored and it boots to my startup drive.
Not a huge deal, as I still have the USB installer, but I’ve gotten kind of hung up on trying to get this to work.
You know how that can be.
Thanks again to tiamo, and all the good folks here at macrumors for the help.
The info in the threads about this here are pure gold !
You’ve breathed new life into my aging Mac Pro iron!
Thanks again guys !
- Jay
I’m a real old time lurker, who used to post here back before the dawn of the OS X days.
In fact it’s been so long I couldn’t remember my old account info or my old email address after many tries to log in, so I had to create a new profile.
First off, I just HAD to chime in and thank tiamo for his boot loader patch !
Just WOW man, thanks !
I tried a couple of times, in the past few years, to use Chameleon and some other tricks to get 10.8 and then 10.9 going, but I found them just too kludgy and finicky for everyday use.
I have to say your is efi patch pure genius ! !
I’ve been running 10.9.1 for about a month now, and it’s totally seamless on my Mac Pro 1,1 maxed out on RAM w/ a Geforce 610 GT.
Thanks again man !!
My second reason for re-upping and posting here again is a question.
Has anyone got the recovery partition working with the modified “boot.efi” file ?
I know I can boot off my modified installer USB stick, but when I tried to burn the modified installer back to a “installESD” dmg and put it on my recovery partition I still can’t boot from it.
There must be some kind of checksum check happening, because sometimes I get an error and sometimes the “Command R” keys are just ignored and it boots to my startup drive.
Not a huge deal, as I still have the USB installer, but I’ve gotten kind of hung up on trying to get this to work.
You know how that can be.
Thanks again to tiamo, and all the good folks here at macrumors for the help.
The info in the threads about this here are pure gold !
You’ve breathed new life into my aging Mac Pro iron!
Thanks again guys !
- Jay
Hey Scuba,
Like you Im trying to keep on a budget upgrading my 1,1 because I hate to dump big money into something that may not work on the next software version.
My machine is mostly used for running Logic for digital audio, so I am not a hard core gamer.
If you were satisfied with the performance of your 7300GT under Lion (as I was), then there is no reason to get the top of the line fastest card.
I picked up a Nvidia Geforce 610GT/1Gig PC card locally on sale very cheap, its faster under Mavericks than my old 7300GT was under Lion, and works out of the box.
Like I said, Im not a hard core gamer, but still I can play Quake 3 and the flight simulator FlightGear at very playable speeds, faster than the 7300GT under Lion.
Of course you wont get the little whirling dervish symbol on the gray startup screen, like most non-efi cards, but otherwise its the ultimate bargain general purpose card.
You can score a 1 Gig 610 for under 50 quid, or a 2 Gig one for under 60 quid.
here is a 2 Gig in locally Cork :
http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/ASUS-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-610-PCIE-Graphics-Card-2-GB/311307/146
Hopefully this helps mo dheartháir.
I live in the States now, but grew up in Mallow, never been to PC World though so can't vouch for them.
Cheers.
- Jay
change the graphics cards to something more modern (and supported by Mavericks). Come back and share your joy.
Macbook Early 2008 Problems
Hi Tiamo and everyone else,
Thank you soo much. I was able to follow all of your instructions except replacing the boot.efi. Your file wouldn't work and didn't allow this macbook to boot up so right now I'm using the original provided one. The graphics is decent however I can't watch videos at all. The audio is the main problem. No sound whatsoever. Volume button in the menu bar is greyed out. It doesn't even think there is a audio output installed. Does anyone have a working IOaudiofamily.kext or applehda.kext that would work?
Isiah Johnson
Hi Tiamo and everyone else,
Thank you soo much. I was able to follow all of your instructions except replacing the boot.efi. Your file wouldn't work and didn't allow this macbook to boot up so right now I'm using the original provided one. The graphics is decent however I can't watch videos at all. The audio is the main problem. No sound whatsoever. Volume button in the menu bar is greyed out. It doesn't even think there is a audio output installed. Does anyone have a working IOaudiofamily.kext or applehda.kext that would work?
Isiah Johnson
What graphics card do you have? Also try pressing alt and then the greyed out audio icon, what other options do you have?
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Sorry didn't realise its a macbook so i can't help you on graphics but do the above for audio
I got a similar setup with Mavericks. None of the mentioned apps have problems with launching on my Macpro.
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Yeah it's strange I got the Pixelmator trial to work, maybe il just remove the others and reinstall them
There aren't any other options. No output device detected at all.
Hmm thats odd! Sorry I can't help you more!
You are in the wrong forum - this is for the Mac Pro (desktop) not MacBook (laptop).
The reason your MacBook could not run Mavericks has nothing to do with Tiamo's bootloader, which you even admit to not using, and everything to do with there being driver issues for graphics etc on the MacBook. It would be best if you took this enquiry to the MacBook forum.
Thanks,
-Rob
Thanks for that Jay. It's great to have an option that I could buy locally. 60euro for the 610, vs approx 270 for a mac 5770 is a huge difference, and would allow me to upgrade the ram as well.
I would go a bit higher pricewise if i knew the performance benefits merited it.
My main considerations are to continue to use my 23inch LCD Cinema HD Display, which still looks lovely (so i'd need the connectors to still be the same).
And then in terms of performance, I would ideally like to be able to use Final Cut Pro X on it as well as Photoshop CS5.5 since those are the two biggest resource hogs I will have. I don't play any games these days, so that's not an issue. I would also be using it to watch movies hopefully.
I've been trying to do as much of the research myself without just pestering people here for answers, but the blizzard of different brands and configurations of the PC cards has me confused. It also doesn't help that half the time, the listings for different retailers don't actually give the full specs so you can't accurately compare. While the MAC specific ones were stupidly pricey, at least I basically knew my options.
What I'm really trying to get a feel for is, "where is the point of diminishing returns?". Will I notice a big difference on a MP 1,1 when looking at cards that go from 1gb->2gb->4gb. I'm guessing the 4gb is overkill in my case.
Again, if anyone has actually used FCPX on a MP 1,1 I'd love to know what card they were using and how they found it performance-wise.
Thanks again,
GoS
I have a 1,1 with a 5770 use FCPX lightly nothing extreme and it runs quite well. I've only ever edited HD.
GoS,
It sounds like your video needs are a bit more demanding than my own, in my search for an off the shelf PC card that just worked out of the box I started here :
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1440150/
There's a lot of information there, but there must be a card somewhere between the 610 and the 5770 pricewise that will fit your needs and budget.
Good luck in your search, please report back if you have luck finding an off the shelf solution that works for you.
I'm sure it would benefit others as well.
Cheers.
EDIT - Finally found the other link that helped me when I was video card shopping, lots of good info here too :
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/HCL_10.8.2#PCI-E
- Jay
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Hi what is the price range that you are looking for? I have seen GTX 650 1GB to 2GB GDDR5 cards for a low price between 99.99 to 150.00 depending what site you are looking at.
Install boot.efi Over Chameleon Install?
I installed Mavericks on my Mac Pro 1,1 using the Chameleon method (updated to 10.9.1). Would I have to reinstall Mavericks in vanilla fashion and then replace the boot.efi or would it be safe for me to simply replace the boot.efi on the already-installed Mavericks?
I installed Mavericks on my Mac Pro 1,1 using the Chameleon method (updated to 10.9.1). Would I have to reinstall Mavericks in vanilla fashion and then replace the boot.efi or would it be safe for me to simply replace the boot.efi on the already-installed Mavericks?
Just replace boot.efi in the two relevant folders. Then, make sure you DON'T boot from your Chameleon partition. Choose you Mavericks partition as the boot device. You might need to reset PRAM, and then make sure you bless your Mavericks partition (after booting). That's all.
Just swap the boot.efi in the two locations and update the plists.
Do a parameter RAM reset and use Option to boot straight into Mavericks.
If everything works, unbless the Chameleon folder. I actually ended up deleting the BOOT partition, since when trying to boot Windows Boot Camp I always ended up back with Chameleon.
Since I have a lot of disk space on my Mac Pro, I retain partitions for all existing operating systems back to Tiger, but at a minimum I would keep a minimal Lion partition for repairs and fixes after updates like 10.9.2.
I have never looked back!
Apple AMD Radeon HD-5780
I just replaced my HD-4870 with the HD-5780.
It works flawlessly at least down to Snow Leopard. It draws significantly less power than the HD-4870 and is quite a bit faster.
Since the bus is only PCIe 1.1, you do not get the full theoretical performance. But based on some reports I read, the real life impact of the older bus is small - only a few %.
I will keep the HD-4870 around in case I see stability issues, which I do not expect.
This did push up WoW settings to high across the map using my 2560x1440 display.
If you are not a gamer, the difference between the HD-4870 and HD-5780 is not worth it.
If you are considering the 5770, it has been reported that the HD-5770 is actually slightly slower in some areas than the HD-4870. But it is a good upgrade from XT-1900.
I just replaced my HD-4870 with the HD-5780.
It works flawlessly at least down to Snow Leopard. It draws significantly less power than the HD-4870 and is quite a bit faster.
Since the bus is only PCIe 1.1, you do not get the full theoretical performance. But based on some reports I read, the real life impact of the older bus is small - only a few %.
I will keep the HD-4870 around in case I see stability issues, which I do not expect.
This did push up WoW settings to high across the map using my 2560x1440 display.
If you are not a gamer, the difference between the HD-4870 and HD-5780 is not worth it.
If you are considering the 5770, it has been reported that the HD-5770 is actually slightly slower in some areas than the HD-4870. But it is a good upgrade from XT-1900.
This is urban legend. CPU is bigger bottleneck (esp. in games) than PCIe in MP 1,1.
Much better OpenGL and OpenCL performance, lower heat emission and power draw, triple displays support, better reliability of 5870 aren't worth it?
I'd rather say that if you're a gamer, owning MP is not worth it