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Frankly I don't even know that they need a new form, and they've never had leadership in this space. I'd like to see them TAKE the leadership in this space. Offer the best workstation GPUs available...all of them, give people choices. Offer the absolute fastest, most stable workstation in the market. Then actually market the thing and tell people why they must have it or their professional lives will never be complete.

More choice requires more r&d, etc to support it. The thing the update naysayers are saying is that it's not worth the R&D on it anymore.

But yes drivers for PC cards could be a step in the right direction.
 
The views pay the salaries anyway.
Bingo. :D

Accuracy be damned, what matters to them is getting the page hits so they can generate the advertising income. Otherwise, they don't generate an income, and there's nothing to pay salaries with. Sad, but that seems to be the state of modern journalism these days. :(
 
Frankly I don't even know that they need a new form, and they've never had leadership in this space. I'd like to see them TAKE the leadership in this space.

Yeah, I love the current form, but if a change is "needed" to keep the Mac Pro going, no problem.

I'd like to see them take leadership too.
 
Well, it's quite evident that Apple is abandoning Mac Pro sooner than later. Add some "sources" to the article and you have plenty of page views coming. The views pay the salaries anyway.

Yeah yeah "evident".... It's been kind of a slow retreat, but my point was that whether they break it off here is highly speculative. If they have to put in design time rather than dropping in parts, that might be enough to kill it. If the mini wasn't just a stationary laptop I'd consider it assuming we see options beyond the current thunderbolt enclosure option. Every review I read on the thing just seems to be about it being noisy (most enclosures are) or arriving with DOA drives (and I'd rather buy drives that I trust).
 
Bingo. :D

Accuracy be damned, what matters to them is getting the page hits so they can generate the advertising income. Otherwise, they don't generate an income, and there's nothing to pay salaries with. Sad, but that seems to be the state of modern journalism these days. :(

I noticed this myself the other day. I wrote about Backify, a new online storage service which offers 512GB for free. That article got 160k views, whereas the average is like 40k. The article turned out to be crap in the sense that Backify has been down for weeks and they don't answer to support calls/emails :p

This time, it wasn't even intended. I can imagine the page views I could get by writing baseless rumors :D
 
Which would be very attractive as a means of generating income if you didn't have a conscience/good set of ethics. ;)

I get paid based on the word count, so I don't care if I get 1m views or 1k, the money is the same :D Anand hates sensationalism and crap journalism, and I think this is one of his ways to make sure we stay out of that.
 
I get paid based on the word count, so I don't care if I get 1m views or 1k, the money is the same :D Anand hates sensationalism and crap journalism, and I think this is one of his ways to make sure we stay out of that.
Must be part of the reason the quality stays good over there (useful articles, not unsubstantiated crap). :D
 
Some very sexy motherboard shots have been leaking out the past few days with Sandy Bridge-E very close to launch. I'd love to see what Apple could do with a single SB-E solution. Shame the Xeons are still nowhere to be seen.
 
Some very sexy motherboard shots have been leaking out the past few days with Sandy Bridge-E very close to launch. I'd love to see what Apple could do with a single SB-E solution. Shame the Xeons are still nowhere to be seen.

oh man, did not know the Sandy Bridge-E is Not a Xeon. The Mac Pro prognosis just keeps getting worse
 
There are Sandy Bridge-E Xeon chips, Intel is just releasing the consumer CPUs first. That being said, a 3930K plus 16GB or 32GB of ram would make a killer workstation setup, and should be available soon!

edit: A link to one of those sexy motherboards I was talking about: http://www.overclockersclub.com/new...190-asus_x79_motherboard_details_revealed.htm

The E5-1600 Xeons are actually Sandy Bridge-EP as the E is for enthusiast; with EP being Enhanced Performance, but it's irrelevant. The 3600 Xeons were Westmere-EP but Intel don't actually use these names in any marketing so it isn't needed.
 
Tomorrow. 14 Nov 2011. Sandy Bridge-E Unleashed!!

Mac Pro ummhhhh. ...... no!
 
Tomorrow. 14 Nov 2011. Sandy Bridge-E Unleashed!!

Mac Pro ummhhhh. ...... no!
That was fast. LGA 1356 (E5-24xx) appears to offer an octo-core option as well. You just sacrifice dual processor support and are limited to 24 PCIe lanes.

China has shown a few benchmarks of the Core i7 3xxx bins but they are not really that impressive over the currently available Core i7 2600K. I was hoping for some improvement in transcoding in 4 vs. 6 cores. You get the SATA ports and PCIe lanes but not much else from the platform. It feels like Bloomfield vs. Lynnfield all over again.

Does Sandy Bridge-E support QuickSync? I think I am just going to wait for Ivy Bridge and a new Mini-ITX computer.
 
I have an idea:

Shove some E3's in the lower end Mac Pro
Some E7 10-cores in the higher end Mac Pros
Up to 4 AMD Redeon 6990's
Up to 32TB of HDD and up to 8TB of SSD
Up to 256GB ram :eek:
8 thunderbolt ports
8 usb 3 ports
Included Thunderbolt display
:)
 
Appears all LGA 2011 CPUs are 8-core CPUs with cores disabled for 2, 4 and 6 core versions, for those that find interest in such things. LGA 1356 probably the same.
 
Appears all LGA 2011 CPUs are 8-core CPUs with cores disabled for 2, 4 and 6 core versions, for those that find interest in such things. LGA 1356 probably the same.
They are binning out a 2-core version? It might be some bizarre low power SKU with insane Turbo Boosting but do we really need a dual core Xeon in 2011? The die is massive, even with a low power dual core Intel is taking a hit.

Reviews appear to indicate PCI-Express 3.0 support but the inability to actually test it given the lack of expansion cards for the new specification.

The 'E' is for expensive.
 
They are binning out a 2-core version? It might be some bizarre low power SKU with insane Turbo Boosting but do we really need a dual core Xeon in 2011? The die is massive, even with a low power dual core Intel is taking a hit.

Reviews appear to indicate PCI-Express 3.0 support but the inability to actually test it given the lack of expansion cards for the new specification.

The 'E' is for expensive.

Yeah the Xeon E5-2637 is a 3GHz 2-core w/ 80W TDP for $884. Obviously Intel see a market for something like that. I guess it's the TDP and high clockspeed with the ability to support so much memory. Maybe more for embedded solutions.
 
They are binning out a 2-core version? It might be some bizarre low power SKU with insane Turbo Boosting but do we really need a dual core Xeon in 2011?

'we' -- the desktop/deskside workstation , power user crowd? No.

'we' -- the telecom server in a power limited cage at a networking center crowd? Probably Yes.

Remember the high bandwidth PCI-e lanes come out of that "big" package. If had four , relatively low TDP, 8x PCI-e networking cards to put in a box which was going to largely bring in I/O and largely just push it right back out ......... two 3GHz cores is enough in many cases.

Using the same socket means can get board design reuse for some or all of the aspects needed for that submarket of servers.



Reviews appear to indicate PCI-Express 3.0 support but the inability to actually test it given the lack of expansion cards for the new specification.

Lack of cards given to the gamer/tweaker crowd reviewer sites. Yeah, probably so. PCI-e v3 cards would be locked up in NDAs at this point.
 
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