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is it working on 15.1? I've had it. taking it into Genius Bar. Let these people earn their money. It can stay there for a month. Maybe it will force them to admit there is a problem. Restarting over and over. Did install from recovery mode 2x. Fail.
 
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is it working on 15.1? I've had it. taking it into Genius Bar. Let these people earn their money. It can stay there for a month. Maybe it will force them to admit there is a problem. Restarting over and over. Did install from recovery mode 2x. Fail.
Yes sequoia works up until 15.2 which breaks owc drives so 15.1.1 is the latest working
 
Do not update to 15.2 everyone!!

It’s brought back the original issue of startup hangs and raid drives not mounting again 😩😩😩!!!

Damn, just did… didn’t see the issue yesterday.

How can Apple be so bad at this! Or is it a deliberate feature improvement to annoy evil 7,1 users who refuse to buy newer machines…

I have a Sonnet card so fingers crossed.
 
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Damn, just did… didn’t see the issue yesterday.

How can Apple be so bad at this! Or is it a deliberate feature improvement to annoy evil 7,1 users who refuse to buy newer machines…

I have a Sonnet card so fingers crossed.
when even retail employees have net worths north of 20 million, think about the sheer amount of employees who just can't be bothered, and are not bothered. They have trillions of reasons to be complacent, it's not their market. PLUS most importantly people RARELY bring their MAC PRO into the Apple Store to get fixed, so it's likely the biggest reason it's not a known issue. I brought mine in today, and told them fix it, and left. Who knows what they will do, but i gave them an opportunity to own it, after two years of this BS. While I have been a Mac user since 1985, I may have to switch back to PC, like I had to in 1995.
 
is it working on 15.1? I've had it. taking it into Genius Bar. Let these people earn their money. It can stay there for a month. Maybe it will force them to admit there is a problem. Restarting over and over. Did install from recovery mode 2x. Fail.
A waste of time, the only answer those condescending nitwits have is ‘reinstall your operating system’.
 
Damn, just did… didn’t see the issue yesterday.

How can Apple be so bad at this! Or is it a deliberate feature improvement to annoy evil 7,1 users who refuse to buy newer machines…

I have a Sonnet card so fingers crossed.
Yes, this is truly unbelievable. I wasted many hours on this today, could not do any work because most of my stuff is on an OWC Thunderbay 6 with SoftRaid. I have a PhD in ICT & have working with most OS for over thirty years, and then we still get this garbage from Apple, then condescending Bs via phone support or self-proclaimed ‘genius’.

In any case, FWIW - I found a lot of this out there on Apple fora, many many users (zero answers from Apple). Primary workaround appears to be ‘boot with thunderbay off’ then turn on, this appears to work.

Another recommendation is to install 15.2 while the Thunderbay is off, yet to verify & am currently time-wasting again & re-installing from recovery to see how that goes (I ‘could’ have rolled back to 15.1.1 from a CCC image, but that is sitting on a Thunderbay m.2; well done Apple, you certainly did your homework on how to best f-us).

See eg, https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255883440?sortBy=rank

Re PCIE RAID, so happens that my Sonnet 4x still mounted (go figure) but following the prior logic, one would have to pull the card, update the OS, then install the card again - only conjecture here.

Bloody BS & Apple incompetence /lack of customer care. I wonder how many lost income dollars out there?
 
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On my 28 core machine (the single W6800 one) having no issues so far using 15.2 (24C100) with a Sonnet card thankfully.
 
A waste of time, the only answer those condescending nitwits have is ‘reinstall your operating system’.
I have to say this is exactly my experience with not just the Genius bar but almost every high ranking contributor that comments on the, (Un???), Official Apple forum.
 
I have to say this is exactly my experience with not just the Genius bar but almost every high ranking contributor that comments on the, (Un???), Official Apple forum.

The Apple forums do seem populated almost entirely by "i understand you're trying to do (x), have you considered that Apple product always work perfectly, and your expectations are at fault?"
 
I have to say this is exactly my experience with not just the Genius bar but almost every high ranking contributor that comments on the, (Un???), Official Apple forum.
I had that experience on the Apple forum as well, I scolded one of the high ranking "experts" on there. He was just trotting out the boilerplate response. Didn't go back to see what his response was.

It's always the fault of the customer, never the fault of holy Apple who can never ever do wrong. You get the same around these forums at times as well but not nearly as bad.
 
I had that experience on the Apple forum as well, I scolded one of the high ranking "experts" on there. He was just trotting out the boilerplate response. Didn't go back to see what his response was.

It's always the fault of the customer, never the fault of holy Apple who can never ever do wrong. You get the same around these forums at times as well but not nearly as bad.
It's actually the reason I left the place years ago.
Whe I was new to Mac I googled, found the ASF and naturally thought it was the place to go for Mac related support. Was contrived and awful.
Had a 'disagreement' with a guy I think was called CSound1, (and one other that escapes me now), and that was the point that made me want to leave it.
 
I have a MacPro 7,1 with an OWC Thunderbay 4 in RAID 5 configuration that was neutered by Sequoia 15.1, but started to work correctly again (as reported by OWC https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/964...n=cj&cjevent=254b50fcbcb911ef83ecec100a82b836), when I upgraded to 15.2.
Unfortunately, the problem has returned. Yesterday the Thunderbay SATA drives disappeared along with two other HDD drives attached via an OWC "Toaster" via USB-3.
The good news is that a PRAM reset recommended by Apple Support solved the problem and all the drives came back. And now the bad news, I turned the machine off overnight but upon rebooting (several times) today, the drives again had disappeared. Several PRAM resets did noting to bring them back.
I also have SoftRAID installed and that cannot see the drives either.
OWC was active in working with Apple to resolve the problems, but it looks like we need to let them know that the problem has returned.
There is an active comment section in the above link.
 
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