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Squuiid

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In 10.12.6, yes, both GPU are OOTB.

The main benefit of the 280X is very good driver optimisation, and able to flash.

If you have not plan to flash it (to show boot screen), then I personally will prefer to RX580 more.

It has more VRAM, it's a much newer card, it has better port (e.g. HDMI 2.0), it has more functions (e.g. hardware h265 decode in Windows), it draw less power, it has higher performance (assume same level of driver and software optimisation).....

Even though the 280X may do better in some particular applications, but the RX580 should not fall behind by too much. And the RX580 usually can do better (by it's raw power) even thought the software is not optimised for it yet.

For production, I think you better go for a new RX580 that come with warranty. But not a used 280X that may die at anytime.
In addition to all of this, and h98 alluded to it with his HDMI 2.0 mention, the RX580 does 4K/5K @60Hz as it has both HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.4 which are the latest standards. Consequently the RX580 is much more future-proof than the 280X.
 

owbp

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Yep, 280X are old and hot with not so long life expectancy.
Although it is still the best card for overall macOS experience, i would definitely go for RX580.
The drivers have to mature over time.
 

devon807

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Yep, 280X are old and hot with not so long life expectancy.
Although it is still the best card for overall macOS experience, i would definitely go for RX580.
The drivers have to mature over time.
The 280x also consumes a lot more power
 

John_B Beta

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If I have a 4K as my main screen but an older 1080 one connected to the HDMI as a dual display set up, will I get the boot screen OK on the 1080 one? Or does the fact that a 4K is connected to the card mean that there will be just no boot screen at all? I think I'm OK with upgrading to Sierra on the machine to make life easier & give me more options...
 

nigelbb

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No need to go for a flashed card

1) It's more expensive
2) You can flash it by yourself if you want to
3) The MOST important one, it won't gives you 4K 60Hz boot screen, but just hang you computer.

Then why pay more to buy trouble?

There is NO 4K 60Hz OOTB card with boot screen exist on the world yet (for cMP).
I don't have a problem using my 40" 4K monitor @60Hz with the 4GB GTX680 that I flashed myself. True it does hang if it is the only screen connected but the answer is to have another monitor connected to one of the DVI ports on the graphics card. The Apple boot screen is displayed on the monitor connected by DVI.
 

macha-one

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HI all, i m new in this thread. Using a mac pro 5.1 12 core 3.46 with os 10.12.5 installed. I now have an AMD R9 280 in my mac . I have one 30 inch two 23 inch and one 4k monitor connected to it.
Considering a GPU upgrade to the RX580. Can I install any brand or model of this card in my mac?
I have no knowledge wahtsoever on this topic. Can anyone give me advise on which model/brand I should go for?
Thans in advance!

Jane
 

devon807

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HI all, i m new in this thread. Using a mac pro 5.1 12 core 3.46 with os 10.12.5 installed. I now have an AMD R9 280 in my mac . I have one 30 inch two 23 inch and one 4k monitor connected to it.
Considering a GPU upgrade to the RX580. Can I install any brand or model of this card in my mac?
I have no knowledge wahtsoever on this topic. Can anyone give me advise on which model/brand I should go for?
Thans in advance!

Jane
Sapphire PULSE is recommended, XFX is a no-go.
 

fendersrule

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And...that's why your thread got merged. Take some time to read the 7 pages of others that had the same question. If you leave the thread, notice 3 threads on the same page with the same question.

While the RX 580 is a great card for some users that deal with computation and rendering, there's other options that may be better for you. I have both an RX580 and the GTX 1070, and for gaming @ 1440p, it's a no contest battle, hands down. And I haven't felt like I've given up any usability or functionality in MacOS, either going with nVidia. Ziltch. Nada. The GTX 1070 just works, just the same as did the RX580.
 
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OS-SEX

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While the RX 580 is a great card for some users that deal with computation and rendering, there's other options that may be better for you. I have both an RX580 and the GTX 1070, and for gaming @ 1440p, it's a no contest battle, hands down. And I haven't felt like I've given up any usability or functionality in MacOS, either going with nVidia. Ziltch. Nada. The GTX 1070 just works, just the same as did the RX580.

There's also a $200 or so difference in price between an RX580 and a GTX 1070 which is another important consideration for many of us. For an occasional Mac OS gamer like me, I'd rather save the money and hope the radeon drivers improve a bit in time. :)
 
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fendersrule

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Both are too expensive, to be honest. I wanted VR, so I got my 1070 for $200 in a bundle. :)

$300 is a complete rip off for a 580 if buying for games. You're best keeping with the 7950 or 280 until the bubble pops.

MacOS drivers improving? Not a chance. Never has been a chance IMO. You'll get what Apple gives you when it comes to framerates, and it's usually nearly double off the mark.
 
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macha-one

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And...that's why your thread got merged. Take some time to read the 7 pages of others that had the same question. If you leave the thread, notice 3 threads on the same page with the same question.

While the RX 580 is a great card for some users that deal with computation and rendering, there's other options that may be better for you. I have both an RX580 and the GTX 1070, and for gaming @ 1440p, it's a no contest battle, hands down. And I haven't felt like I've given up any usability or functionality in MacOS, either going with nVidia. Ziltch. Nada. The GTX 1070 just works, just the same as did the RX580.
[doublepost=1512641876][/doublepost]I searched the trhead thoroughly. Lot s of info indeed. Thnx.
I use both mac os and windows 8 on my 12 core. Using bootcamp.
I was wondering how both cards compare when it comes to real time video processingon windows 8 or 10.
I use a program that renders in real time.
On mac os i use fcp x as my bread and butter os on macos real time is not so important for me.
 

h9826790

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[doublepost=1512641876][/doublepost]I searched the trhead thoroughly. Lot s of info indeed. Thnx.
I use both mac os and windows 8 on my 12 core. Using bootcamp.
I was wondering how both cards compare when it comes to real time video processingon windows 8 or 10.
I use a program that renders in real time.
On mac os i use fcp x as my bread and butter os on macos real time is not so important for me.

For FCPX, RX580 is the way to go. And recommend you go for the reference card (if possible, Sapphire PULSE RX580 8GB should be the most compatible one).
 

PITFALLPat

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Mar 17, 2017
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Your best option would be one of these:
SAPPHIRE Pulse Radeon RX 580 8G GDDR5 Dual HDMI/DVI-D/Dual DP Graphics Card - Black

I'd also highly recommend upgrading your CPUs to X5677 or X5690 models. It's a VERY easy swap and you'll see a significant improvement. (Assuming you have a 2010/2012 5,1 Mac Pro and not a 2009 model.)
[doublepost=1520404384][/doublepost]Actually, with firmware update, the 2009 Mac Pro (4,1) essentially becomes a 2010/2012 Mac Pro (5,1) and the X5690 may then be installed. I realize the dual-CPU 2009 Mac Pro's have "de-lidded" processors, but there are kits with de-lidded processors available on eBay and elsewhere.
 

Sg335man

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[doublepost=1520404384][/doublepost]Actually, with firmware update, the 2009 Mac Pro (4,1) essentially becomes a 2010/2012 Mac Pro (5,1) and the X5690 may then be installed. I realize the dual-CPU 2009 Mac Pro's have "de-lidded" processors, but there are kits with de-lidded processors available on eBay and elsewhere.
Hello have you replaced the 2009 CPUs ?
 

Éric 69

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Mar 24, 2018
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Hello to all !

I followed your advice and bought a "GIGABYTE RADEON RX 560 Gaming OC 4G" REV.2 (REV.2 = work without power cables) Windforce edition to handle a LG 43" 4k@60Hz (via DisplayPort),I'm on High Sierra 10.13.3 Mac Pro early 2009 / 4.1 flashed to 5.1 .
The graphic card work OOTB but , I don't know why she 's stated AMD R9 XXX 4GB and make lot of noise when watching youtube HD video for example.
AMD_RX_9.jpg
R9_X.jpg

Any suggestions ?
Thanks in advance !
 
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Sg335man

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Mar 13, 2018
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Hello to all !

I followed your advice and bought a "GIGABYTE RADEON RX 560 Gaming OC 4G" REV.2 (REV.2 = work without power cables) Windforce edition to handle a LG 43" 4k@60Hz (via DisplayPort),I'm on High Sierra 10.13.3 Mac Pro early 2009 / 4.1 flashed to 5.1 .
The graphic card work OOTB but , I don't know why she 's stated AMD R9 XXX 4GB and make lot of noise when watching youtube HD video for example.
AMD_RX_9.jpg
R9_X.jpg

Any suggestions ?
Thanks in advance !
[doublepost=1521898747][/doublepost]The Graphics Card identifier in "About This Mac" is written in the driver I guess a file? Theres post on here about it and editing that file, but not easy and does it really alter how the card perfumes NO! You may find in 10.13.4 High Sierra which is in testing they may, I say they may! have a fix? Yes theres no Boot screen with the RX 560 but Cmd R recovery works, yes you have to wait but it works for me. If you need to Boot from another drive set the "Start up" drive when in High Sierra and reboot? I still have the GT 120 also so can get the Boot screen with a cheap monitor. I tried to switch the monitor cable using one monitor to the RX 560 but does not work very well? As to noise I think thats in a different area?
 
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Éric 69

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[doublepost=1521898747][/doublepost]The Graphics Card identifier in "About This Mac" is written in the driver I guess a file? Theres post on here about it and editing that file, but not easy and does it really alter how the card perfumes NO! You may find in 10.13.4 High Sierra which is in testing they may, I say they may! have a fix? Yes theres no Boot screen with the RX 560 but Cmd R recovery works, yes you have to wait but it works for me. If you need to Boot from another drive set the "Start up" drive when in High Sierra and reboot? I still have the GT 120 also so can get the Boot screen with a cheap monitor. I tried to switch the monitor cable using one monitor to the RX 560 but does not work very well? As to noise I think thats in a different area?

Thank you very much Sg335man,
I will wait for an update of High Sierra with new drivers !
Is it possible to enable audio on DisplayPort on High Sierra 10.13.3 ?
Thanks in advance !
 
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