So, you're saying that Apple is good at curating cash. I agree.
They can have some more of mine if they would just release the 8,1!
C'mon Tim, take my money before my bank goes under!
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They can have some more of mine if they would just release the 8,1!
C'mon Tim, take my money before my bank goes under!
”We have only one mac left, the mac pro. But that’s for another day”
Well, I sure thought “another day” was another day the same year… Getting exhausted here…
Well, I sure thought “another day” was another day the same year… Getting exhausted here…
As I get ready to head out to Vegas tomorrow for some March Madness gambling, I'm sitting here goofing off with some new software toys and it occurred to me to throw a quick shout out to the new Monduo Tri-screen for the 16 inch M1/M1 MacBook Pro series MacBooks. It's the first 16 inch tri-screen and it's awesome. 500 nits and 2k on both screens to match your MacBooks brightness and resolution, both of which are controlled by your primary screens adjustments in realtime as well
I love this thing and I will be bringing it with me to Vegas and everywhere else I go from now on. It really opens up my productivity on the road and wanted to shout it out to ya'll that have 16 inch M-series MacBook Pros. It's 100% with every penny!
http://monduo.co if you're interested
I love this thing and I will be bringing it with me to Vegas and everywhere else I go from now on. It really opens up my productivity on the road and wanted to shout it out to ya'll that have 16 inch M-series MacBook Pros. It's 100% with every penny!
http://monduo.co if you're interested
...it occurred to me to throw a quick shout out to the new Monduo Tri-screen for the 16 inch M1/M1 MacBook Pro series MacBooks.
http://monduo.co if you're interested
That's pretty wild!
Gurman's latest is, unfortunately as far as Mac Pro's are concerned, a nothingburger. No news at all.
I expect they'll preview it at WWDC, but I wouldn't expect it to ship anytime soon.
This article is a bit fanciful but aligns with what some here have wished for. May be an interesting read: https://lowendmac.com/2023/envisioning-the-mac-pro-82-dream-machine/.
This article is a bit fanciful but aligns with what some here have wished for. May be an interesting read: https://lowendmac.com/2023/envisioning-the-mac-pro-82-dream-machine/.
They have nothing to ship, but waiting until WWDC to say they have nothing helps Apple how? If not shippable in June then May is a 'bad' time how? They have already 'blown' their roadmap of 'about two years'. Going to exactly the three year anniversary and then saying going to take even longer than 3 years is 'face saving' how?
If Apple is using the exact same outer enclosure then there is a decent chance they will not treat this as a major product redefinition. With a very large enclosure volume change size ( down or up ), the Mac Pro 2013 and 2019 got 'whole new product' treatment. For an evolutionary upgrade what is going to be the super-duper dog and pony show grand 'review' here? 'Ta-da!! it looks exactly like the previous one'. ( internals are likely have more differences)
Unless there is some 'Earth shattering' change to macOS .. waiting until WWDC would just be extremely odd.
Fanciful is a bit of an understatement. Apple is going to bring back optical disk drives? Bring back Toslink? Going to build a boot foundation hyper optimized for Windows 11 (and up)?
If Apple simply build a general PCI-e add-in-card that had a Mn Pro on it they wouldn't need to build a Windows Workstation clone box at far greater expense. Don't really need any KVM. . But that really wouldn't be a "Mac Pro".
In some sense, that is good sign. Preferable that he say nothing if he has nothing rather than fill the information vacuum with stuff that won't have any backup confirmation.
[ e.g., Mac Pro being hugely tightly coupled to 13.3
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/11/new-mac-pro-macos-13-3/
along with the M2 Pro/Max
".. with M2 Pro and M2 Max chips would also be tied to macOS 13.3, suggesting that the notebooks could be announced this spring as well. ..."
]
He has gone from 'half sized' Mac Pro to same full case. 'Extra' SSD module slots. etc.
The folks filling in the vacuum with click/ad chasing commentary does as much 'damage' as it 'helps'.
Bet it would come quicker if Tommy and Arthur paid Tim a visit!
Man, I love Low End Mac for finding specs on older Macs, but that article is a fever dream for sure, and don't get me started on those horrible chassis designs...
Very un-Apple, and for something that looks like a full size tower, like something that would go under the desk rather than on it, why place the front I/O & bays on the bottom where they will be at near floor level...?
As for the whole Xeon & ASi SoC thing, no thank you...
To be fair, most place the beginning of the countdown at the release of the first ASi Macs, so November of 2020...?
I wish they would, my 2.1 THX (yeah, yeah, barebones THX, more label than anything...) Logitech system can use a "regular" 3.5mm audio feed, but it also has an Optical input which I would rather use (as I am now with my ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact mDTX mobo...); I would like to see a return to the combined 3.5mm & Optical port...
I didn't say anything about face-saving; not sure where that comes from. I'm simply assuming the Mac Pro isn't ready, and WWDC is the next big event on the calendar. Plus, unless it's just going to be a Studio in a larger box (unlikely, or what's the point?), it's going to have a significantly different system architecture to everything else in the range. That may need optimising for, so WWDC would be the time to explain it to the people who will be writing the software. This would also give them the excuse to announce something in June, throwing a sop to those waiting, without having to release it then.
The ASi Mac Pro will have a significantly different system architecture to the Xeon one, regardless of whether it uses the same case or not. There's no way Apple can / will present it as 'business as usual, nothing new to see here', like it's an M2 iMac.
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In June WWDC 2020 Apple said "about 2 years". The transition started then because the transition kit was announced and shipped shortly after that. However, even if extensively hand wave that clock didn't start until Nov 2020, then Sept-Nov 2023 would be 'about 3 years". it is still a year past the broad window they gave themselves.
So issue still stands... going to WWDC to ask for around 3 years of time makes Apple look good how?
Essentially the only way to miss the "took you about three years" label is to ship before WWDC 2023. I actually do think Apple intended to give themselves to the end of 2022 to finish off the transition. But they have blown past that deadline at this point. If all they have is more 'promises' for an even further deadline extension at WWDC 2023 then just excuse peddling. WWDC is the wrong forum for excuse peddling.
In fact, not particularly any better than the 1 year late Xeon SP gen 4 / W-3400/2400 (sapphire rapids) Intel just rolled out. Intel is loosing enterprise customers being flakey. Same thing will happen for Apple.
If there is some odd-ball reason that is reasonably justifiable to say "going to ship Oct-Nov 2023" then a 6 month window before that is April-May; not June. Apple gets 'grilled' in the press for 3-6 weeks and then new info at WWDC 'washes' the headlines clean with new stuff.
Also worse if going to 'promise' Ar/VR headset for 5-6 months down the road. How much creditability going to have when in the SAME dog-and-pony session are highlighting that one of your previous roadmap timelines was hugely blown. "Believe us we were seriously wrong on product A but product B is going to roll out on time".
In contrast, If Apple did a April/May reveal and at June WWDC said these are the updates we have done over last 1-2 months that makes that "Mac Pro" date more believable, then they might have some chance to build creditability , rather than blow up credibility.
That combined 3.5mm & digital port is relatively non standard. It is likely not coming back. Apple hasn't had digital out for more than several years. USB modules and HDMI/DP to digital out modules are plentiful. ( it isn't like stuck with USB 2.0 tech for the USB modules anymore. )
Ultimately, who will give a sh*t though? So what if Apple missed a tentative deadline they gave, especially on the other side of a global pandemic? It was hardly a solemn oath. Releases slip, it happens. Ultimately, the Mac faithful have zero choice anyway but to wait patiently for the machine to be released, and then everyone will (hopefully) be so excited all will be forgiven. Anyone who values workstation roadmaps in the slightest will have moved to Windows years ago.
The fact that something's non standard isn't a reason to dismiss it. The same could be said for MagSafe, which Apple U-turned on as people missed it so much. Combining 3.5mm and Toslink makes some sense, given people generally don't need analogue and digital output at the same time. Having said that, there's hardly a shortage of space on a Mac Pro; it only really makes sense on a laptop.
At 1:45:50 Tim asks the question "So what's the timeline for this transition?"
"Well, for developers it begins this week with the valuable information delivered at this conference as well as applying for the quick-start program,"
"and for the customers, we expect to ship our first Mac with Apple Silicon by the end of this year, and we expect the transition to take about two years."
Clearly, he could have been a bit more precise, but I have him starting the customer clock on November 12, 2020 when they first started shipping Apple Silicon Macs.
That said, I'm issuing Tim a yellow card for the weaselly way he outlined the transition.
And he's getting a second yellow card for his ASi Mac Pro tardiness. No matter what you say, two years, four months and seven days is not "about two years."
Tim, as you know from watching Ted Lasso, two yellows equal a red. Please leave the pitch.
One nice thing about this 8,1 mess of incoherence on what it will be, the keynote release could be, for a change, super interesting and exciting!
It's soooooo damn useful...as I said, was using it the entire trip here in vegas and it's like having a small office on the go! I really love it and recommend it to ya'll wholeheartedly. This one specifically though. Before this, all the trim-monitors I could find were around 200 or 300 nits peak and 1080p at most.
This is the first 2k, 16inch, 500 nits monitor with color that also MATCHES the MacBook Pro, and that makes a world of difference
I miss you guys
I'm just finishing up in Vegas. Late checkout in about 20 minutes at 1pm then gonna hit the casinos one more time for a few hours and head back to LA. Hope everyone has had a great weekend waiting for Tim to show us something I love that I can take comfort in knowing there's at least a few dozen other geniuses like myself that are around the world just waiting on Tim to say something right along with me LOL. It's. true brotherhood lolololol.
Serious?!?! I'm not even gonna look it up. Sounds like it's just gonna piss me off :/
Jeez, this is getting ridiculous.
Maybe, an official song would cheer us up.
And the nominees are:
The Waiting (is the hardest part) - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Don’t Want To Wait Anymore - The Tubes
The Game Don’t Wait - Warren G, featuring Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg and Xzibit
Tired of Waiting for You - The Kinks
What You Waiting For? - Gwen Stefani
Tell Me Why I'm Waiting - Stract, featuring Shiloh Dynasty
And the winner is:
Tell Me Why I'm Waiting - Stract, featuring Shiloh Dynasty
Maybe, an official song would cheer us up.
And the nominees are:
The Waiting (is the hardest part) - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Don’t Want To Wait Anymore - The Tubes
The Game Don’t Wait - Warren G, featuring Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg and Xzibit
Tired of Waiting for You - The Kinks
What You Waiting For? - Gwen Stefani
Tell Me Why I'm Waiting - Stract, featuring Shiloh Dynasty
And the winner is:
Tell Me Why I'm Waiting - Stract, featuring Shiloh Dynasty