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Mac Pro is out of stock in most CA Apple Stores

not1lost said:
Notice... "ALL BASE MODELS" same as the Best Buy Store's wearhouse in Memphis TN. ???? Hmmm :):confused::D:confused:
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Apologies if I was not clear, what I mean by all base models is this. Mac Pro's ship from Ireland, when you custom configure they are given final assembly of the custom items here and then shipped.

I rang Apple Store Ireland which is in Cork on Wednesday to ask if they had any refurbished stock, they had only one model available, nothing more. Come Friday the store offered one of each of the base models that are listed on the Pro Mac page on the online store. None of the refurbished items are custom configured. Its an assumption only that because they are not build to order, that they are clearing the base inventory. I say assume, and I know what the first 3 letters of assume spell! :)
 
spacedesign911 said:
How is your 12 core refurb, did you get the 2.9? had it the higher spec graphics? I would pick one of these up right now if it appeared, what discount did you get?

Finally how is the PCIe SSD? is it your boot drive? Did you go 1TB?

Thats an epic setup!

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Just an observation but for the last few weeks the refurb store here in Ireland and UK had one Pro Mac available on it, and on Thursday it filled up with all base models. Inventory clearance perhaps?
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It was the single Hex Core 3.33GHz i purchased, it was £500 approx $800 less than the usual asking price(i checked the refurb store nearly every day for at least 6 months before this came up)i followed Diglloyd's advice and bought this version as my main need is photoshop and other photo processing software.
I installed an OWC 240GB 6G SSD as my boot drive (BUT the MP is only 3G) and then a few days ago bought the PCIe SSD another 240GB, my plan is to (if needed) get another 240GB and Raid0 the two PCIe drives. The original SSD is now a Boot Clone Backup.
The PCIe SSD has radically improved the feel of my MP (starts way quicker) if one wants stats visit http://diglloyd.com/ he does all the tests & comparisons for Mac gear and a host more.
To answer all your questions,the graphics card was the 5770 sufficient for my needs i think.
The refurb was immaculate! i could not find a spec of dust or a mark of any kind. I have also had MBP refurb and that was perfect to.
In MHO a Mac Pro will come but wether it will have quite the same flexibility in the same Box i Doubt it,with thunder bolt it will probably have more but for some not such a tidy set up.
Just been running the PS speed test and got 11.0s CS6 and 11.5 CS5 and geekbench 2.3.1 and the score is 15628
 
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righteye said:
I installed an OWC 240GB 6G SSD as my boot drive (BUT the MP is only 3G)...
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Good decision.
Not sure why users keep saying to only get the 3G if you only have 3G support. There are myriad reasons to get SF-2281 over SF-1200. One being the 4K read and write speeds that are dramatically better+ better iops. The other less talked about is the amount of abuse the drive can take and maintain high speeds. After my OWC 3G gets 65% full it barely can net over 165 MB/s sustained, scores 277 in Xbench and really does feel slow. Same Mac with a 6G same capacity used nets 265MB/s r/w and 466 in Xbench. So I will never again buy a 3G SF-1200 because my Mac only supports 3G. If 4K randoms ever get over 280MB/s then I will care to go higher (ie. Boot drive on 6G SATA) . Right now they can barely hit 100MB/s on SSD so for a boot I am content.
 
derbothaus said:
Good decision.
Not sure why users keep saying to only get the 3G if you only have 3G support. There are myriad reasons to get SF-2281 over SF-1200. One being the 4K read and write speeds that are dramatically better+ better iops. The other less talked about is the amount of abuse the drive can take and maintain high speeds. After my OWC 3G gets 65% full it barely can net over 165 MB/s sustained, scores 277 in Xbench and really does feel slow. Same Mac with a 6G same capacity used nets 265MB/s r/w and 466 in Xbench. So I will never again buy a 3G SF-1200 because my Mac only supports 3G. If 4K randoms ever get over 280MB/s then I will care to go higher (ie. Boot drive on 6G SATA) . Right now they can barely hit 100MB/s on SSD so for a boot I am content.
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Again i took advice from diglloyd as to wether to use 3G or 6G and myself thought why would i need a 6G drive
PCIe SSD by passes this problem.
I will not copy his work here but below is the link.
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-SSD-OWC-Mercury_Extreme-6G-fill-volume-macpro-480GB.html
 
DisMyMac said:
Apple Store (US) wait time has just increased by 1 day!
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It's official. EVERYBODY PANIC.

Fasten all seatbelts, seal all entrances and exits, close all shops in the mall, cancel the three ring circus, secure all animals in the zoo!

Seriously though, I think we're winding down towards something now.
 
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You know, I first got excited a few days ago when it seemed like most stores didn't have any stock and availability dates were pushed back...however it appears as though some stores, like mine, have them in stock but when checking online it says May 5th. I'm just thinking that since they haven't foreshadowed its death like they did the Xserve and since they made the MP the server, I have renewed confidence. I just hate the wait.
 
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Thanks... I need to add another mini and iPad 3 come to think of it. :) hopefully a new Mac Pro soon too.
 
goMac said:
Seriously though, I think we're winding down towards something now.
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It's still doing that thing: slight configurations take 3-5 days, but odd ones decrease the time. I'm guessing "2-4" is the default when they can't really fill an order at all.
 
DisMyMac said:
It's still doing that thing: slight configurations take 3-5 days, but odd ones decrease the time. I'm guessing "2-4" is the default when they can't really fill an order at all.
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I'm guessing nothing is actually leaving the factory right now at all. But that's just a guess.

They could all be placeholders for "New Mac Pros are coming, stall the customer."
 
Yeah, it's odd timing.

We usually get them right BEFORE they get EOL'd (mere months for 4870/5870)

GTX280 was introd in Jun 2008, we got it in June 2009 as GTX285, card was EOL'd in March 2010.

And there is typically no driver support until the machine releases. (New Mac Pros come with "special" version of OS with drivers for the new cards...reduces thunder stealing)

All of which would point to AMD 7xxx, but the 7xxx are far to new.

In the green camp, we JUST got driver support for the GTX5xx series (Thank you Nvidia Mac team !!!) but that seems to mean it won't be GTX5xx since they don't usually like having their thunder stolen. So dare we hope for GTX6xx? The id's have been notably missing from the drivers...hmm.

I'm going with AMD 7xxx. Will get my credit cards warmed up for Tuesday.

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Just checked stock on the base MP at local stores.

Apple shows 20 Apple stores within range of my zip code.

Earlier I was seeing availability at around half of them. It is now down to 6 of the 20 having it in stock, all of the rest say May 3rd or May 4th. They are either clearing out the dead stock before EOL'ing or Tuesday is the day or they have a new "Don't Stock Dinosaurs" policy. (or the inventory guy has been drinking and forgot the Mac Pro)
 
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Mac Pro simply needs to get updated, or, upgraded to something else. Both will be good, I'm sure after having this long wait. I'm going to get the new machine. And, my daughter gets my fully equipped MacBook Pro. :apple: :cool:

Thumbs up and fingers crossed that it will happen now! :)
 
geniusmac said:
Hello there, as many of us here are waiting desperately for a new Mac Pro, I've been browsing around Apple's website and I found something very odd, and it leads me to believe that we might get new Mac Pros next week.
Here's a few screen shots of their pick to order widget thing on their website:
http://d.pr/i/6HM2

http://d.pr/i/kzfe

http://d.pr/i/Iqm0

What gives?
:apple:

// My local Apple Store (Apple Store Del Monte R305) pick up delivery dates have slipped. It is now showing May 1st, which is a Tuesday. We'll see.
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What new Mac Pro's? The Ivy Bridge server CPU's haven't been launched.
 
mark28 said:
Nice, so the new Mac Pro's are finally going to Sandy Bridge when everything else is going to Ivy Bridge.
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I think you're missing the point. Mac Pro uses Xeon processors, which are always released a couple of months after the mainstream, consumer versions. The Sandy Bridge xeons were very delayed for various reasons that Intel has not detailed. Sandy Bridge Xeons are much more powerful than Ivy Bridge desktop processors.
 
theSeb said:
I think you're missing the point. Mac Pro uses Xeon processors, which are always released a couple of months after the mainstream, consumer versions. The Sandy Bridge xeons were very delayed for various reasons that Intel has not detailed. Sandy Bridge Xeons are much more powerful than Ivy Bridge desktop processors.
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to go a bit more on this, ivy bridge is not a big improvement over sandy bridge if you ignore the graphic angle 4000 graphics over 3000 graphics.

Since mac pros do not use integrated graphics the fact that they will have a sandy bridge cpu of the xeon type instead of a non existent-ant ivy bridge xeon cpu is no big deal.

Look with mac pros the cpu is not the problem the problem is graphics and sata II vs sata III.

If you gave me a 2010 mac pro will an all sata III back plane and a hd7970 bto gpu I would want it. T-bolt would be nice but not really needed.

Even if it was Still using the w3680 cpu. The sata III jump and the hd7970 gpu would be huge improvements.
 
philipma1957 said:
to go a bit more on this, ivy bridge is not a big improvement over sandy bridge if you ignore the graphic angle 4000 graphics over 3000 graphics.

Since mac pros do not use integrated graphics the fact that they will have a sandy bridge cpu of the xeon type instead of a non existent-ant ivy bridge xeon cpu is no big deal.

Look with mac pros the cpu is not the problem the problem is graphics and sata II vs sata III.

If you gave me a 2010 mac pro will an all sata III back plane and a hd7970 bto gpu I would want it. T-bolt would be nice but not really needed.

Even if it was Still using the w3680 cpu. The sata III jump and the hd7970 gpu would be huge improvements.
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Agreed. For everything that I want to do the Sandy Bridge 6 core enthusiast chips beat Ivy Bridge. Therefore Sandy Bridge Xeon will be great for my purposes.


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theSeb said:
I think you're missing the point. Mac Pro uses Xeon processors, which are always released a couple of months after the mainstream, consumer versions. The Sandy Bridge xeons were very delayed for various reasons that Intel has not detailed. Sandy Bridge Xeons are much more powerful than Ivy Bridge desktop processors.
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Then wait a couple of more months when the Ivy Bridge Xeon CPU's come out? Haswell is released in 2013, so in the meantime nothing else is coming from Intel. Usually 1-2 quarters after the desktop CPU's the Xeons are released based on previous launches. ( unless Apple knows something is wrong with the Ivy Bridge Xeons that nobody else knows about, just like with the Sandy Bridge Xeons )

edit: Mac Pro's are very expensive, so if I was going to spend $5000 on a computer, I would personally wait if I knew the new Xeon's are coming out soon in a few months.
 
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mark28 said:
Then wait a couple of more months when the Ivy Bridge Xeon CPU's come out? Haswell is released in 2013, so in the meantime nothing else is coming from Intel. Usually 1-2 quarters after the desktop CPU's the Xeons are released based on previous launches. ( unless Apple knows something is wrong with the Ivy Bridge Xeons that nobody else knows about, just like with the Sandy Bridge Xeons )
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Ivy Bridge Xeons won't be out till the end of 2012. Why not just wait for Whatever bridge xeons in 2020? I'll be making money in the mean time.
 
theSeb said:
Ivy Bridge Xeons won't be out till the end of 2012. Why not just wait for Whatever bridge xeons in 2020? I'll be making money in the mean time.
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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120102PD217.html

"In the second quarter of 2012, Intel will release 11 Ivy Bridge-H2 series CPUs including Xeon E3-1290v2, priced between US$189-884 and seven more processors including Xeon E5-2470, priced between US$192-1,440."

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon E3-1280 v2.html

"Estimated release date April - May 2012"

Waiting 8 years can't be compared to waiting only a couple of months.

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theSeb said:
Agreed. For everything that I want to do the Sandy Bridge 6 core enthusiast chips beat Ivy Bridge. Therefore Sandy Bridge Xeon will be great for my purposes.


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You are correct. The extreme Sandy Bridge edition is the fastest CPU atm for desktops. ( until there will be an extreme edition of Ivy Bridge )

The Sandy Bridge Xeon should be even faster as it will be a 8 core CPU. ( so i guess you can customize it to a 16-core Sandy Bridge Mac Pro )
 
mark28 said:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120102PD217.html

"In the second quarter of 2012, Intel will release 11 Ivy Bridge-H2 series CPUs including Xeon E3-1290v2, priced between US$189-884 and seven more processors including Xeon E5-2470, priced between US$192-1,440."

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon E3-1280 v2.html

"Estimated release date April - May 2012"

Waiting 8 years can't be compared to waiting only a couple of months.
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Those are not the CPUs that would go into a Mac Pro, as far as I understand, which will be available much later in 2012.
 
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