They see a need to provide users with some anti-malware software (at least long enough of a license term that the user can select the malware product of their choosing).Yet they still offer a 30 days of Microtrend antivirus on the Dell. It seems they are still offering kickbacks even though not as much.
I think we may have already discussed the need for a higher wattage power supply on workstations to deal with various load conditions as a fallback. As it plays into the reliability factor. Running a power supply at nearly full load over long periods of time can cause premature failure as well as excessive heat. ( As its only 500W ) Depending on the use of course.
Granted, bundling malware can help generate sales for the malware vendor used, so they offer it to system vendors at very little cost.
But their workstations don't come with all of the crap that the consumer systems do.
In terms of PSU, most vendors use around that particular wattage rating. And when used with a single GPU, it will be fine (can be a problem if a second GPU is added, depending on the card, as well as other cards in the PCIe slots).
PSU design, QC, and parts selection matter greatly in terms of it lasting (i.e. if it's Active PFC or not, if it has sufficient capacitance, if they can take the heat, ...). Even what the rating is matters (peak vs. continuous/nominal value). For example, a 500W PSU that's it's peak rating will only be able to deliver ~350W continuous. I suspect this is what you've probably run into, as most ratings are peak values if it's not explicitly stated as continuous/nominal power ratings.
When comparing true workstations and the PC variants come in cheaper (same Xeons and use ECC memory), then those comparisons are valid.I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if someone already said this, but no, they're not overpriced. When people try to compare PCs to Mac Pros they almost never take into account that a Mac Pro is really closer to a server. Ecc memory, server based. Nehalem proc, server based. Apple isn't actually competing in the headless PC market. They have their mobile line, a AIO solution, and a server solution. Wait.. I guess the Mac Mini would be in the headless class. Compare specs from that to a PC if you want.. The only thing you would be missing is custom hardware.
But no, people need to stop that comparison. Mac Pros aren't rack mount, but those are the systems they need to be compared to.
For example of a valid comparison of SP models (Xeon based workstations), take a look at post #39.
Comparing the MP to various consumer based PC systems definitely aren't valid (which unfortunately, does tend to happen when the price issue surfaces).