The bolded is interesting given what AMD just announced...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
For a quite topical blast from the past, check out the absolute brute you could run OS X on back in the days of the Mac Clone program
actually punch nvidia in the face.The bolded is interesting given what AMD just announced...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
The bolded is interesting given what AMD just announced...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
And he also mentioned single 6-pin power connector.
really......? interesting.Hmm, thats strange that device ID's in Sierra for Polaris are still connected to 6 display output framebuffer
IKR? I like to see what would indicate AMD polaris in mac OS.Dammit guys, stop giving me hope.
I read this from koyoot:
Perhaps I misunderstood or missed something, (sorry) because of fast reading, but I had no intention to point back anything.
I just wanted to say about the same thing that gomac said:
So when a specific company has a proprietary technology or a new whatever invention, (Apple or NVIDIA or ADOBE or AMD or EPSON or HP, etc) and we use it for our benefit, and it's good, even if it is possible for some people to see it like a lock in, in reality it's not exactly a lock in, it is the way the industry works.
It's not possible to have everything compatible with everything or every software to be open sourced and compatible and revolutionary at the same time.
It's not possible to use HP plotter's ink cartridges in an EPSON one or vice versa, it is just a natural thing, it may seem like a lock in, but it's also something that ensures you that you can work - print on a stable platform and have the same results each time.
Anyway, most of the leading companies have their proprietary inventions "their lock ins" and it is completely natural to use them for their profit, this is their target, so we just have to see what suits our needs to have our work done and reach our targets too with the tools we like most, like our Macs. (Now I have to confess that it would be nice to have some Nvidia options too, officially supported-offered by Apple).
Cheers!
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I just shed a tear, I LOVED this show! Kind of hard to watch now though.
The bolded is interesting given what AMD just announced...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
very nice GPU, and thank you.The bolded is interesting given what AMD just announced...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros
Nitpicking a bit, but that's not OS X. Copland was dropped and never released. Failed project. OS X was a startover after Apple bought NeXT.
What "No One" describes is plausible IMHO (even if it's a guess) - An innovative redesign of a tower that keeps all necessary tower features (Yup 5.25" floppy disks and the like can go). Apple failed with the trash can by rethinking to much. Keep in mind that when they introduced the trash can at WWDC they touted how they hid its "guts" in a filing box to get prerelease customer feedback:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/1...ase-mac-pro-stashed-inside-a-giant-metal-box/
...of course feedback for the cloaked unit was was all raving - but no customer ever "tested" the actual physical design. One of the customers (MARI) was bribed with a large block time to demo their own product during WWDC '13 - talk about hush time. They were seeing the real physical unit during their onstage demo for the first time.. but when in that situation, of course they just pissed the Big Gulp of Flavor Aid they had been served - just stick to the script, save the WTF? reaction for later.
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/1...ase-mac-pro-stashed-inside-a-giant-metal-box/
...of course feedback for the cloaked unit was was all raving - but no customer ever "tested" the actual physical design. One of the customers (MARI) was bribed with a large block time to demo their own product during WWDC '13 - talk about hush time. They were seeing the real physical unit during their onstage demo for the first time.. but when in that situation, of course they just pissed the Big Gulp of Flavor Aid they had been served - just stick to the script, save the WTF? reaction for later.
When Apple announced the nMP, no one was expecting a tube form factor.
It would be very funny, now that we 're all expecting a nMP v.2 tube, to present us a "new" revolutionary tower like design.
It would be very funny, now that we 're all expecting a nMP v.2 tube, to present us a "new" revolutionary tower like design.
"We've completely reimagined the professional Desktop Workstation. We've been working really hard for this" - unveils a pizza box design.
We won't have long to wait to find out. Its looking possible this will be an august event so as not to clash with the iphone launch
The problem i have with Apple and there Pro line is that I can not trust them to have our back. They have showed us that they can abandoned this Pro machine for years with there lips sealed tight. No information, nothing. So, on what level of client relationship do you measure this way of treatment to their buyers? Kinda awkward situation, knowing that people spend 5k, 6 or soms even 10.000 euro on a single Apple product.
Mac updates/OS specifically have tended to be more in the October range, my money is that it'll follow suite, with iOS 10 and new iPhone/watch in early half of September, iPad and mac/sierra in late October, esrly November. I would love to be proven wrong though.
If the improved eGPU compatibility in Sierra is an indication - I'd imagine they'd be looking more Q4/Q1 2017 (could release in Q4 - they aren't going to ramp up production to meet demand again if bet so here will be delays in shipping due to backorders.
If they do go the eGPU route - they do have the option of outsourcing the TDP at least one of the graphics cards. Would they 2S the design I don't know but they have options within the current design. Moreso with TB3. Intel's improvements (Optane, CPU) seem further down the line than AMDs at this point for stuff that could go into a new 2016 Mp.
If they do go the eGPU route - they do have the option of outsourcing the TDP at least one of the graphics cards. Would they 2S the design I don't know but they have options within the current design. Moreso with TB3. Intel's improvements (Optane, CPU) seem further down the line than AMDs at this point for stuff that could go into a new 2016 Mp.
Im going to switch to PC this Fall - allready planning my purchase. Currently working on an 5K iMac. My biggest wish would be for apple to make a Pro iMac with Desktop class GPU and 32" screen. But considering Apple giving less crap about the Pro market these days, I expect less than dissapointing updates from them this year. I've been thinking about Pros and Cons of owning a Mac vs. a PC and it just doesnt add up anymore.
What I get from the Mac: A great screen that doesnt need any pre-adjustments for my usage, amazing SSD disk speed and OSX which gives me nice superficial conveniance (continuity, login, less virus awareness, imessage and sms on my desktop and such "small" things) compared to a PC were I get: Faster Adobe programs, faster 3d programs, faster rendering, more and better games, the ability to choose my own hardware and when to upgrade). So I loose small conveniances over a much more solid workstation - and at the same time for a lower cost (which is a nice bonus)
The Mac Pro in its current state is not something I even consider. And I don't think anyone should, unless they are absolutely dependent on a program that runs solely on OS X. The bucket design is stupid too, its a sexy bucket, but once stuff is connected its actually uglier than a PC tower which at least is more useful (so high five to Jony Ive and his "design minimalism for a purpose" mentality - which in nMP's case didnt follow through at all). Maybe in 10 years when everything can be wireless - apple can update their nMP and the design actually has an aestethic value - now it doesn't.
I work with 3d, after effects, photoshop and unity 3d for the most part. 3d and Unity will benefit a lot from the CPU and GPU power, something Apple doesnt even offer anymore, no matter how much money I'm willing to throw at them...only 3 years old outdated hardware meant for FCPX. Thanks Apple! -go have fun with your 2020 car and microupdates.
End of todays rant
What I get from the Mac: A great screen that doesnt need any pre-adjustments for my usage, amazing SSD disk speed and OSX which gives me nice superficial conveniance (continuity, login, less virus awareness, imessage and sms on my desktop and such "small" things) compared to a PC were I get: Faster Adobe programs, faster 3d programs, faster rendering, more and better games, the ability to choose my own hardware and when to upgrade). So I loose small conveniances over a much more solid workstation - and at the same time for a lower cost (which is a nice bonus)
The Mac Pro in its current state is not something I even consider. And I don't think anyone should, unless they are absolutely dependent on a program that runs solely on OS X. The bucket design is stupid too, its a sexy bucket, but once stuff is connected its actually uglier than a PC tower which at least is more useful (so high five to Jony Ive and his "design minimalism for a purpose" mentality - which in nMP's case didnt follow through at all). Maybe in 10 years when everything can be wireless - apple can update their nMP and the design actually has an aestethic value - now it doesn't.
I work with 3d, after effects, photoshop and unity 3d for the most part. 3d and Unity will benefit a lot from the CPU and GPU power, something Apple doesnt even offer anymore, no matter how much money I'm willing to throw at them...only 3 years old outdated hardware meant for FCPX. Thanks Apple! -go have fun with your 2020 car and microupdates.
End of todays rant
And this is what will cause a long term exodus from Apple.
Brands need a halo product, ones that many can't use or afford. The Mac Pro is it.
Without it applications abandon the platform and it becomes an after thought wherein poorly ported applications are the norm. Once the pros have all switched to Windows. They will start transferring the rest of their businesses.
The pros also have disproportionate influence on purchase decisions for their friends and family. If they are no longer recommended, it will have an effect even outside of pro circles.
Apple still make great laptops - which there are becoming better and better competitors. But if they are chasing the bottom line and no longer focus on computing. I believe we will start to see the end of apples growth in computers and a decline in the overall Apple ecosystem.
The pro is important to Apple long term, I hope they know that.
I think I have another 2 years to go in my MP 5,1 and then I'm moving to WinPC too.
What I love about the cMP is having all of that in one. Obviously that last bit is limited compared to a real PC, but it's significantly better than all other Macs.
I want to believe, but I don't.