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I've got the noise. It's even worse tonight for some reason.

I'm working around the suggestions of others in this thread to get it baffled enough so I can use it without it irritating me. I'm trying a lint free cloth draped over the back tonight.
My apple polishing cloth is handling this until I find something else.
 
I’d probably give up after 2 returns.
So why do you need technical analysis? Why not return the problematic system and get another one? Of the second unit exhibits the issue you've reached you now have your decision.
 
Maybe I just can't hear mine because I have tinnitus and a constant high pitched ringing in my ears anyway. 🤷‍♂️
this thread had me convinced that the 'whine' was present on my ultra until i measured it.

nope, i was trying so hard to hear the 'whine', i started noticing my tinnitus again.
i was even hearing the 'tone' in places where it was impossible (like inside my car)
 
So why do you need technical analysis? Why not return the problematic system and get another one? Of the second unit exhibits the issue you've reached you now have your decision.
Motive, desire, and reason can be opposing forces.
 
So why do you need technical analysis?
Because I’m a nerd and I find acoustics and psycho-acoustics very interesting. I’ve enjoyed reading about auditory sensory adaptation and fletcher munson curves.

It’s pretty interesting that a 25 dB whistle that should be “inaudible” can be like torture to me and some others. Most fan noise doesn’t affect me at all.
 
Because I’m a nerd and I find acoustics and psycho-acoustics very interesting. I’ve enjoyed reading about auditory sensory adaptation and fletcher munson curves.

It’s pretty interesting that a 25 dB whistle that should be “inaudible” can be like torture to me and some others. Most fan noise doesn’t affect me at all.
I hear you. I don’t even own a Mac Studio but the noise issue has tweaked my nerdy interest as an audio engineer.
 
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I’m not sure why someone would keep a computer they don’t like, and tell everyone about it, when the exact same computer is available without the parts they don’t like.
Well, as one who likes my computer and has the noise -- there's no guarantee that a replacement will not have the sound, and you've wasted the gas and time to return it. And the new one might be worse!

Once Apple admits it's a problem (if), and they say new ones wont have it, then I'll return it.
 
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Well, as one who likes my computer and has the noise -- there's no guarantee that a replacement will not have the sound, and you've wasted the gas and time to return it. And the new one might be worse!

Once Apple admits it's a problem (if), and they say new ones wont have it, then I'll return it.
I wouldn’t drive anywhere. I would demand Apple send me a unit fit for purpose, and then send the defective one back upon receiving a satisfactory product (as I have done with them in the past).
 
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I wouldn’t drive anywhere. I would demand Apple send me a unit fit for purpose, and then send the defective one back upon receiving a satisfactory product (as I have done with them in the past).
I'd still have to drive it to a UPS drop off point, and I'd have to take the time to set up a new one, with absolutely no guarantee it would be any better, and probably worse.

Mine has a spike at around 2640Hz and mostly near the right fan, not at 2100 like most that have analyzed it. I haven't seen anyone else exactly like mine yet.
 
you're looking at the 2.5 kHz one-third octave band. that covers roughly 2.2 to 2.8 kHz.
all the energy between those two frequencies get power summed into a single estimate.

if you resample with a narrow band analyzer (or RTA), most point to the peak ~ 2.1 to 2.2 kHz. if the fan is running ~ 1300 rpm, a peak in that neighborhood is ~10th or so harmonic of the fundamental fan frequency (~ 21 or 22 Hz).

it could be an interaction between the rotating fan blades and the fixed blades or internal supports that form the internal fan housing. one of the ways that vacuum cleaners were made quieter was be changing the number of fixed vs rotating elements in the fan assembly. those changes shifted where the dominant peaks occurred.

one of the take apart videos showed that the max's had several fins sticking into the airflow path while the ultra's did not.

Icubed I forgot to thank you for your very instructives explanations ;-)

The peak on my Mac Studio occurs only when fans are running at 1100 rpm, there isn’t any when fans are operating automatic at 1330 rpm.

So I won’t use anymore manual speed.
 
But simply for the purpose of showing the relative level of the "whine" above the background, I wish someone that had a Studio with "whine" would post a spectrum analysis taken with a mic at ear level, at a normal position seated in front of the Mac Studio, showing a "whine peak" above the background noise. Has anyone done that? If so, I don't recall. Putting a microphone 6" behind the Studio pointed at the air vents blowing across the mic is not very helpful to indicate if whine can be heard above the background of the room alone.
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Left is right in-front of the fans, right is from my head level 3 feet away.

Interestingly of the 3 bands at 2, 2.3, and 2.6 kHz it seems like it might just be the one at 2 kHz mixed with the 14 kHz that are escaping.
 
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My two OWC Thunderbay RAID0 enclosures produce about 60db of fan noise in back and 40-45db from where I sit. Unless the Mac Studio whines I think I'm good. I'll find out this weekend.
 
Rather than look at numbers I prefer to actually listen.
My mac studio is on my desk in a very quiet room. Its simply silent. If I put my ear to the back then I can just about hear some noise from the air blowing slowly through the holes. Even when I push the processing to use all cores the fan speed barely changes.
 
Once Apple admits it's a problem (if), and they say new ones wont have it, then I'll return it.

Apple won't officially admit a problem of this kind, where some people think it is acceptable and others do not. Apple knows people are unhappy. The service representative processing my return immediately knew what I was talking about and said they had processed a stream of similar requests.

The most likely outcome is the problem will be silently fixed in later batches. Maybe that fix is a new fan vendor or fan design change. The initial batches will circulate until they find a customer that does not mind the noise.

I was excited by the promise of quiet desktop power and sad to return mine when it did not meet that expectation. The idea is good. The execution is lacking. My experience with the Macbook Pro and Mini had me believing the "totally silent" reviews. My biggest lesson from this is when reviewers relentlessly hammer some point in lock step, be very suspicious.
 
The most likely outcome is the problem will be silently fixed in later batches. Maybe that fix is a new fan vendor or fan design change. The initial batches will circulate until they find a customer that does not mind the noise.
You're right, that's probably the best i could hope for, but it'll be enough for me. Once word that there is an improvement in new units, I'll either send mine back if I can, or trade it in.

I really think it's going to take a total redesign of the fan assembly to fix it.

If they never get better, I guess a MBP Max may be my next purchase. I wish you could easily take the batteries out and I'd treat it like a desktop. I've had bad luck with Apple laptop batteries and them staying stationary on a desktop... (never had a battery puff up on a Windows laptop, but Apple, yep)
 
If they never get better, I guess a MBP Max may be my next purchase.

On a hopeful note, I expect the next Studio model will be better. We got bit by early adopter fever. I know I had a bad case.

I have to wonder if pandemic work from home and/or supply chain madness combined to let this one get away from Apple.
 
On a hopeful note, I expect the next Studio model will be better. We got bit by early adopter fever. I know I had a bad case.

I have to wonder if pandemic work from home and/or supply chain madness combined to let this one get away from Apple.
Yep, me too.

I don't think it was the pandemic at all, it's just Apple trying to be different. The fan profile, 2 fans, always spinning, min speed 1300 rpms out of the box, never really ramping up speed much, even under load -- I have no idea what they were thinking. It's probably a miracle that so many are really quite.
 
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My two OWC Thunderbay RAID0 enclosures produce about 60db of fan noise in back and 40-45db from where I sit. Unless the Mac Studio whines I think I'm good. I'll find out this weekend.
I've got OWC Express 4M2 on Mac mini M1, original fan was awful, I replaced it with a less noisy but it's still disturbing fortunately I'm not using it very often.
 
I just picked up my Mac Studio yesterday and noticed this sound that I can’t help but notice:


The sound you’re listening for is like a disk drive spinning/whirling or a signal-like sound. You can’t miss it. It’s sitting roughly 2 feet away from me, and underneath my monitor.

It only seems to happen when I’m using the computer, but when it goes to sleep mode or when I don’t pose any activity for awhile it goes away. It’s very obnoxious. Is this normal?
 
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Mine is arriving this week, how long do I have to return it? I'm hoping it's ok but even if it is I'm concerned it will appear after 2 weeks as Apple hasn't said nothing about it.
 
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