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I can’t read 57 pages of posts - is it still the general consensus that the M1 Ultra Mac Studio is more or less immune to this whine issue?
Nope. I had the Ultra and it sounded awful.

Obviously that's only 1 data point and hopefully I was just very unlucky, but it's definitely not immune.
 
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Nope. I had the Ultra and it sounded awful.

Obviously that's only 1 data point and hopefully I was just very unlucky, but it's definitely not immune.
Did you return it? Or cancel the order and get a refund?

This reminds me of “OLED (TV) panel lottery” - it’s like Forrest Gump, you never know what yer gonna git …
 
Have a return set up for my second unit; will decide later if I go for 3rd time lucky. Cannot send back the display which is a few hundred loss if I pass it on. But yeah, the squeal is so bad now that it actually gives me an ear ache after a few hours and the pitch is coming directly from the fans. It does sound electrical in my mind though, oh well **** happens.
 
Did you return it? Or cancel the order and get a refund?

This reminds me of “OLED (TV) panel lottery” - it’s like Forrest Gump, you never know what yer gonna git …
I returned it for a refund.

It was a great machine otherwise and I do miss it, but given the massive wait times I couldn't be bothered doing the return dance.
 
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In an office/studio you can’t hear such a low noise and even when maxed out.

At home people have music, television playing in the background. People working from home not shy about farting loudly. Really loudly.

So this fan noisy discussion it just nit picking and fussy over nothing. 25 decibels is heaven compared to when we made music on Power Macs.
 
In an office/studio you can’t hear such a low noise and even when maxed out.

At home people have music, television playing in the background. People working from home not shy about farting loudly. Really loudly.

So this fan noisy discussion it just nit picking and fussy over nothing. 25 decibels is heaven compared to when we made music on Power Macs.
The whine is the problem, not the decibels. I can assure you'd here it if your machine had the problem. I hear the whine over an air cleaner, TV, and whatever other noise is going on. I have background noise of ~45 decibels...

You poopooing everyone else by the statement above is actually quite insulting and irrelevant to the thread since you obviously don't have the same problem. (or maybe you don't even have a studio at all since you don't mention that.
 
The whine is the problem, not the decibels. I can assure you'd here it if your machine had the problem. I hear the whine over an air cleaner, TV, and whatever other noise is going on. I have background noise of ~45 decibels...

You poopooing everyone else by the statement above is actually quite insulting and irrelevant to the thread since you obviously don't have the same problem. (or maybe you don't even have a studio at all since you don't mention that.

I have the Max not the Ultra and no whine.
 
In an office/studio you can’t hear such a low noise and even when maxed out.

At home people have music, television playing in the background. People working from home not shy about farting loudly. Really loudly.

So this fan noisy discussion it just nit picking and fussy over nothing. 25 decibels is heaven compared to when we made music on Power Macs.
The problem is not the fan hum, it’s the whine as nearly all of us have said. We are not nit picking, we have a real problem. Though this thread with its title is not the real discussion place for it.

Hope yours does not start exhibiting the same issue in a few weeks.
 
So this fan noisy discussion it just nit picking and fussy over nothing. 25 decibels is heaven compared to when we made music on Power Macs.
25 decibels “weighted”.

A narrow frequency peaking can have a higher perceived loudness than the lower frequency background noise that that is in many rooms.
 
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Just got my Studio Ultra yesterday, and happy to say it's very quiet in my workspace. A nearly imperceptible gentle whoosh is how I would characterize it. It's quieter than an average external HDD for example, and I usually have one of those spinning on my desk. I was a little worried by this thread but I'm quite relieved now.

With my ear right up to the back of the Studio, I listened to it waking up from sleep, and as the fans spun up from 0RPM to ~1300RPM I did hear it pass through an RPM range where it did produce a high pitched "whine" sound. But as it reached the ~1300RPM resting speed the whine went away.

I'd guess that's the reason it's programmed to keep a constant ~1300RPM fan speed even if the extra cooling isn't strictly needed, they decided it's a better user experience to have a constant white noise rather than periodic whines as the fans spin up or down.

I'd also guess that people who are hearing a whine at the default ~1300RPM fan speed might have some kind of manufacturing variation in their cooling units, and perhaps a solution there would be to use Macs Fan Control etc. to choose a different fan speed that sounded better for their particular unit. It seems that all Studios are capable of producing a whine at certain fan RPMs, the ~1300RPM default speed should be safely out of the whine range for most units, but for some units the whine happens in the ~1300RPM range and another RPM range would sound better.

Sad to say - about 6 weeks after receiving my Mac Studio Ultra, last night I realized... it is now making a whine. Or maybe better described as a whistle. But it's a high frequency sound that slightly fluctuates, and my previous speculation was wrong, the pitch changes when I change the fan speed, but it does not go away.

I noticed it late last night, shutting things down when all was still and quiet. From my regular seating position, it's barely on the cusp of being noticeable. If I don't pay attention to it, I can somewhat ignore it. Especially when I have an external HDD running on the desk, as I often do. I think the monitor positioned above the Studio blocks some of the reflected sound from the wall, and also the IKEA sound dampening room divider panel placed against the wall behind the Studio helps some too. (Behind that is glass windows, the IKEA panel was an experiment in reducing reflected sound from all the desk tech.)

I have a UPS nearby that makes an annoying coil whine and chirp, that's louder than the Studio's whistle but I am hoping to put the UPS inside of a cabinet soon. Turning down the Studio's fans to 1150 RPM seems to drop the whistle to a frequency that blends in better with the ambient sound, sensor temps seem to be OK with the fan reduction.

I'm bummed to realize I've lost the fan lottery, well outside of my return window but at least I did get AppleCare. I can definitely live with it for a while, and it doesn't seem like there'd be any chance of getting a replacement unit soon. I think I'll wait and see if there's some kind of recall program, I wonder how many other people's Studios that seemed fine at first will develop the whine over time. 😢

Or maybe this is my excuse to trade up next year to the Studio 2 or new Mac Pro....
 
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Sad to say - about 6 weeks after receiving my Mac Studio Ultra, last night I realized... it is now making a whine. Or maybe better described as a whistle. But it's a high frequency sound that slightly fluctuates, and my previous speculation was wrong, the pitch changes when I change the fan speed, but it does not go away.

I noticed it late last night, shutting things down when all was still and quiet. From my regular seating position, it's barely on the cusp of being noticeable. If I don't pay attention to it, I can somewhat ignore it. Especially when I have an external HDD running on the desk, as I often do. I think the monitor positioned above the Studio blocks some of the reflected sound from the wall, and also the IKEA sound dampening room divider panel placed against the wall behind the Studio helps some too. (Behind that is glass windows, the IKEA panel was an experiment in reducing reflected sound from all the desk tech.)

I have a UPS nearby that makes an annoying coil whine and chirp, that's louder than the Studio's whistle but I am hoping to put the UPS inside of a cabinet soon. Turning down the Studio's fans to 1150 RPM seems to drop the whistle to a frequency that blends in better with the ambient sound, sensor temps seem to be OK with the fan reduction.

I'm bummed to realize I've lost the fan lottery, well outside of my return window but at least I did get AppleCare. I can definitely live with it for a while, and it doesn't seem like there'd be any chance of getting a replacement unit soon. I think I'll wait and see if there's some kind of recall program, I wonder how many other people's Studios that seemed fine at first will develop the whine over time. 😢

Or maybe this is my excuse to trade up next year to the Studio 2 or new Mac Pro....
Sucks man. Would AppleCare allow you to hang on to the unit until a replacement is available?
 
In an office/studio you can’t hear such a low noise and even when maxed out.

At home people have music, television playing in the background. People working from home not shy about farting loudly. Really loudly.

So this fan noisy discussion it just nit picking and fussy over nothing. 25 decibels is heaven compared to when we made music on Power Macs.
Fan noise is not the problem; it is relatively quiet. It is the coil whine produced by the PSU which is the issue (On mine anyway); I can hear it two metres away, like a squealing pig.
 
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Sad to say - about 6 weeks after receiving my Mac Studio Ultra, last night I realized... it is now making a whine. Or maybe better described as a whistle. But it's a high frequency sound that slightly fluctuates, and my previous speculation was wrong, the pitch changes when I change the fan speed, but it does not go away.

I noticed it late last night, shutting things down when all was still and quiet. From my regular seating position, it's barely on the cusp of being noticeable. If I don't pay attention to it, I can somewhat ignore it. Especially when I have an external HDD running on the desk, as I often do. I think the monitor positioned above the Studio blocks some of the reflected sound from the wall, and also the IKEA sound dampening room divider panel placed against the wall behind the Studio helps some too. (Behind that is glass windows, the IKEA panel was an experiment in reducing reflected sound from all the desk tech.)

I have a UPS nearby that makes an annoying coil whine and chirp, that's louder than the Studio's whistle but I am hoping to put the UPS inside of a cabinet soon. Turning down the Studio's fans to 1150 RPM seems to drop the whistle to a frequency that blends in better with the ambient sound, sensor temps seem to be OK with the fan reduction.

I'm bummed to realize I've lost the fan lottery, well outside of my return window but at least I did get AppleCare. I can definitely live with it for a while, and it doesn't seem like there'd be any chance of getting a replacement unit soon. I think I'll wait and see if there's some kind of recall program, I wonder how many other people's Studios that seemed fine at first will develop the whine over time. 😢

Or maybe this is my excuse to trade up next year to the Studio 2 or new Mac Pro....
Apple has an extra 14 days discretion; you can return up to 30 days.
 
Sucks man. Would AppleCare allow you to hang on to the unit until a replacement is available?
Thanks, my sympathy to all others afflicted too. Mine’s not as bad as some, it seems.

About AppleCare, I don’t know what they’d do. I had a previous MacBook Pro repaired under AppleCare, it was shipped to a repair facility and it took about 1-2 weeks I think. If they did the same here, I could revert back to my old Mac and live without the Studio for a few weeks, but I’d rather not. And I’m not sure they’ve really figured out the whine issue or how to fix it yet. I don’t think they’d go straight to a replacement machine without trying to repair first, could lead to some back and forth hassle. I think I’ll wait and see if/how they address this seemingly widespread issue, I got the 3-year coverage.

Maybe I should contact Applr support about it soon even if not intending to seek repair right now, probably will just so they have a record of the issue, if they are tracking these at all.
 
Thanks, my sympathy to all others afflicted too. Mine’s not as bad as some, it seems ...

And I’m not sure they’ve really figured out the whine issue or how to fix it yet.

I can't imagine they don't know the cause of the problem. It's either a fan squealing (which I doubt) or a bad component on the power supply board (a coil or transformer, or a bad batch of caps). It only takes one sample of a bad Studio to isolate which is causing the whine. You swap the power supply with a known silent board and see if it goes away, and then you swap the fans with known silent fans, and see which eliminates the whine.

Then it's just a matter of correcting the root cause. If it was a fan, I'd expect it would have been eliminated quickly (and then fixed) because it's mechanical (some batch of parts out of tolerance, or not being prepped or assembled right, etc). And they would have known good fans around by now to do repairs instead of replacing entire Studios. Since they haven't eliminated the problem in almost 3 months since introduction, I really doubt it's a bad batch of fans.

If a component in the power supply is singing it may take a design change (new circuit, new PCB layout, etc.), as opposed to a simple faulty part change to fix. If it is in the power supply (and remember we know there were two different power supply boards with different designs in use in both the Max and Ultras - and they may be behaving differently) I'd think they would have that solved that by now too. But that would depend on their suppliers ability/capacity to design and then produce new boards in quantity, and how much power supply stock was already in the pipeline. There's no indication they actually shutdown the production line waiting for a fix, so maybe they feel the actual number of replaced units is so small they are just using up existing stock without trying to cull out bad boards.

I've been designing electronic products for over 40 years, and I must say I'm surprised they haven't been more pro-active getting rid of the problem faster.
 
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Sad to say - about 6 weeks after receiving my Mac Studio Ultra, last night I realized... it is now making a whine. Or maybe better described as a whistle. But it's a high frequency sound that slightly fluctuates, and my previous speculation was wrong, the pitch changes when I change the fan speed, but it does not go away.

I noticed it late last night, shutting things down when all was still and quiet. From my regular seating position, it's barely on the cusp of being noticeable. If I don't pay attention to it, I can somewhat ignore it. Especially when I have an external HDD running on the desk, as I often do. I think the monitor positioned above the Studio blocks some of the reflected sound from the wall, and also the IKEA sound dampening room divider panel placed against the wall behind the Studio helps some too. (Behind that is glass windows, the IKEA panel was an experiment in reducing reflected sound from all the desk tech.)

I have a UPS nearby that makes an annoying coil whine and chirp, that's louder than the Studio's whistle but I am hoping to put the UPS inside of a cabinet soon. Turning down the Studio's fans to 1150 RPM seems to drop the whistle to a frequency that blends in better with the ambient sound, sensor temps seem to be OK with the fan reduction.

I'm bummed to realize I've lost the fan lottery, well outside of my return window but at least I did get AppleCare. I can definitely live with it for a while, and it doesn't seem like there'd be any chance of getting a replacement unit soon. I think I'll wait and see if there's some kind of recall program, I wonder how many other people's Studios that seemed fine at first will develop the whine over time. 😢

Or maybe this is my excuse to trade up next year to the Studio 2 or new Mac Pro....
About 4 weeks for the whine on mine to kick in but like you it's not currently annoying enough to do anything about. I bought 3 years Apple Care for this reason, so hopefully if it gets worse then Apple will fix it but with the supply chain issues being what they are and needing the machine for work, hopefully that'll be later rather than sooner.
 
found out this video from 2 months ago,

check 03:20 .

According to the video, Apple has two power supply designs and two OEMs
which one does not have the issue?
 
found out this video from 2 months ago,

check 03:20 .

According to the video, Apple has two power supply designs and two OEMs
which one does not have the issue?

Delta has better reputation than Lite-On. Also, if you notice Lite-On has fewer components such as capacitors.
 
According to the video, Apple has two power supply designs and two OEMs
which one does not have the issue?
Holy moly! I wonder if there's a terminal command to show us the power supply manufacturer/version/code/etc.
 
I've got the whine as well with my Studio Max, but found a way to get rid of it:
Setting the fan to a slightly higher speed seems to solve the problem for me. Using Macs Fan Control, I've set it to 1383 RPM and the whine is gone.

According to the Crystalidea blog, the Studio's fan has a constant speed, so setting it to a higher static speed seems to be ok.
 
So I got a Spectrum Analyzer and was able to isolate the pitch at ~2599 Hz. It is constant. I hear this sound all day long. Not very loud, but always present. And I found a YouTube recording that matches the sound exactly. And no, it is no where near as loud as the video, but it is exactly this frequency. This is the sound that I am hearing...
UPDATE: After a back and forth with AppleCare+, it was determined that returning the Mac Studio within the 15-day period to the Apple Store was the only course of action. They would have to evaluate and test on their end, and fan noise is not something they typically diagnoise or fix anyway. So I returned the first one and placed an order for another Mac Studio M1 Ultra. It took quite a while for this second Mac Studio M1 Ultra to arrive (about 2 months). I have had it for about ten days now. No annoying high pitched sound anymore. Much happier. I do still hear the fan, even at idle. But the anoying high pitch sound is gone. What I have now is extremely more tolerable. And so much quieter than my 2019 Mac Pro. It's faster too. Keeping this one! :)
 
UPDATE: After a back and forth with AppleCare+, it was determined that returning the Mac Studio within the 15-day period to the Apple Store was the only course of action. They would have to evaluate and test on their end, and fan noise is not something they typically diagnoise or fix anyway. So I returned the first one and placed an order for another Mac Studio M1 Ultra. It took quite a while for this second Mac Studio M1 Ultra to arrive (about 2 months). I have had it for about ten days now. No annoying high pitched sound anymore. Much happier. I do still hear the fan, even at idle. But the anoying high pitch sound is gone. What I have now is extremely more tolerable. And so much quieter than my 2019 Mac Pro. It's faster too. Keeping this one! :)
Good luck... but mine appeared after 30 days or so and is seemingly getting louder. So it seems like it can develop any time. I'll have to get mine repaired but hoping to hold off til supply chain issues ease up. Very much regret cancelling my MBP order for the Studio. 🙃
 
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