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Received my second Mac Studio Max (64GB/4TB) today. This one has the same fan noise but the coil whine is much quieter. Reducing the fan speed with Mac Fan Control to 1100 reduces the fan noice but the coil whine becomes audible.
Now at 1160 rpm and if the overall noise stays at this level, I may keep it.
 
I am keeping an eye on this one… I am seriously contemplating getting one of these with the M1 Ultra chip… but this kind of thing is a deal breaker for me. Apple needs to address it globally and hope they can do so with firmware update, otherwise I will be waiting even longer for my next Mac refresh… I was actually geting the impression that these things are running so cool that the fan is rarely needed and used and was virtually silent… thats one of the things that attracted me to it… despite the overly high pricing…
 
Received my second Mac Studio Max (64GB/4TB) today. This one has the same fan noise but the coil whine is much quieter. Reducing the fan speed with Mac Fan Control to 1100 reduces the fan noice but the coil whine becomes audible.
Now at 1160 rpm and if the overall noise stays at this level, I may keep it.
on my second ultra. squeal/whine is worse and cant really stop at any fans speed....ugh
 
Fan noise is not the problem; it is relatively quiet. It is the coil whine produced by the PSU which is the issue (On mine anyway); I can hear it two metres away, like a squealing pig.
On my second squealer. Its getting hard not to return...ugh
 
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Good luck... but mine appeared after 30 days or so and is seemingly getting louder. So it seems like it can develop any time. I'll have to get mine repaired but hoping to hold off til supply chain issues ease up. Very much regret cancelling my MBP order for the Studio. 🙃
I have both. On my second studio ultra with squealing. The 16 inch MacBook pro is Perfect. Let me say again Perfect. Return the studio and get the MacBook and don't look back.
 
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I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for it. There have been class action lawsuits against Apple for all sorts of things. Whinegate.
 
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I am keeping an eye on this one… I am seriously contemplating getting one of these with the M1 Ultra chip… but this kind of thing is a deal breaker for me. Apple needs to address it globally and hope they can do so with firmware update, otherwise I will be waiting even longer for my next Mac refresh… I was actually geting the impression that these things are running so cool that the fan is rarely needed and used and was virtually silent… thats one of the things that attracted me to it… despite the overly high pricing…
I’m awaiting my first ultra, and this would be a problem for me too. Apple surely can’t be happy about it, any more than we are! First, it’s hard to build these (especially ultras) in a timely way right now. Replacing them hits the same problem. And - my guess - intense parts supply and staffing issues may be making it hard to find the cause of the noise.

For our buying and/or ‘accept a replacement’ decisions, we don’t know what proportion of studios have, or eventually show the problem. It may be low, but it’s disturbing some - here in macrumors, which I assume is a small sample - have the noise in their replacement(s)…
 
I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for it.
Yet.

My replacement (not for the whine...but another non-defect related reason) arrived today. Although I haven't set it up at this point, rest assured, if present, I have all of the necessary expertise and equipment either myself, or along with a colleague, to nail down characteristics of the sound(s), the source, and quite possibly, the cause. Afterwards, I have other associates who can take it from there, if feasible and warranted. As I said earlier, a product called the "Studio," designed with studios in mind, marketed and then sold to them, as well as other audiovisual pros/users, having an unusual/atypical noise varying from a mere annoyance, either to the user, or perhaps within an audio file, up to one that already has apparently made someone sick (e.g., nauseous), is beyond being a merely embarrassing "oops" in terms of engineering or QC. Apple needs to get ahead of this one.

Stay tuned...
 
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Yet.

My replacement (not for the whine...but another non-defect related reason) arrived today. Although I haven't set it up at this point, rest assured, if present, I have all of the necessary expertise and equipment either myself, or along with a colleague, to nail down characteristics of the sound(s), the source, and quite possibly, the cause. Afterwards, I have other associates who can take it form there, if feasible and warranted. As I said earlier, a product called the "Studio," designed with studios in mind, marketed and then sold to them, as well as other audiovisual pros/users, having an unusual/atypical noise varying from a mere annoyance, either to the user, or perhaps within an audio file, up to one that already has apparently made someone sick (e.g., nauseous), is beyond being a merely embarrassing "oops" in terms of engineering or QC. Apple needs to get ahead of this one.

Stay tuned...
I've actually gotten used to mine, but I am very interested in learning just where the sound comes from and why!
 
I've actually gotten used to mine, but I am very interested in learning just where the sound comes from and why!
There's a lot, relatively speaking, that users who have the issue can do to help solve this mystery...the first step in getting a solution. Some started already. Posts with spectrum screenshots, especially videos with additional data such as various fan speeds, mic distance/position from the box, Studio config, and so forth. Within reason, no such thing as "TMI" at this point as long as the variety of Starbucks or craft beer you're imbimg in while testing isn't included.

There are, as expected, some variations and inconsistencies so far, but eventually, they'll get figured out, most of 'em anyhow. In order to ascertain possible fan contribution (if any), if someone has the patience to get the iFixit X-ray pics and count the number of blades on the fan (one will do, assuming they're identical, and in perfect sync) that'd be great to see if there's a potential BPF element to it.

ID, description and details of any other known rotating/rapidly moving parts also may help, as would potential acoustic characteristics of suspect electrical components such as, IIRC, a user postulated, an inline capacitor on the blink. Any EE types lurking here? If not, I have a guy, but I don't want to bother him or waste his pricey time with wag type speculation.

This sort of thing must be based on docs, data, audio clips, imaging, specs, compete descriptions, design (plans, schematic...from a repair manual maybe?), etc. However, that's not to say an informal community "project" can't have real value. Some have turned into something much bigger...often with success.
 
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I have both. On my second studio ultra with squealing. The 16 inch MacBook pro is Perfect. Let me say again Perfect. Return the studio and get the MacBook and don't look back.
Mine is well out of the return period so I am stuck with repair and replacement now. I've dropped the fans down to 1100 and it helps. Seems to be loudest at the default fan setting.
 
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I’m awaiting my first ultra, and this would be a problem for me too. Apple surely can’t be happy about it, any more than we are! First, it’s hard to build these (especially ultras) in a timely way right now. Replacing them hits the same problem. And - my guess - intense parts supply and staffing issues may be making it hard to find the cause of the noise.

For our buying and/or ‘accept a replacement’ decisions, we don’t know what proportion of studios have, or eventually show the problem. It may be low, but it’s disturbing some - here in macrumors, which I assume is a small sample - have the noise in their replacement(s)…
I can’t imagine the amount of machines it is affecting being very low if the sampling of machines already reporting this problem is that high in just in one forum, MacRumors. I would imagine for PR purposes they are keeping the public facing support forums at the Apple website scrubbed of these reports, so we here aren’t and won’t be learning of the true size and scope of the issue. My guess it it is significant, but Apple isn’t going to disclose the true extent of the problem unless they are forced to by some governing body… and thats something that seemingly non-existent in the tech industry.

Personally, I think Apple knows what is the cause and the cost to them for sending out a replacement to those who demand it is far less than stopping production until a true fix can be implemented into the manufacturing/assembly process. They also know only a small percentage will report this as being a problem, particularly since the operation of the machine itself doesn’t appear to be impacted. They know that many people will just live with it and chalk it up as it just being a noise maker, and Apple is probably okay with that too, as its likely far less expensive for them to deal with the issue in that context, and they can push off a real fix to the v.2 model of the studio.

In the meantime, I am once again postponing my purchasing decision until I have confidence Apple has addressed the problem and its not just a luck of the draw with getting (or not getting) an affected machine.
 
I can’t imagine the amount of machines it is affecting being very low if the sampling of machines already reporting this problem is that high in just in one forum, MacRumors. I would imagine for PR purposes they are keeping the public facing support forums at the Apple website scrubbed of these reports, so we here aren’t and won’t be learning of the true size and scope of the issue. My guess it it is significant, but Apple isn’t going to disclose the true extent of the problem unless they are forced to by some governing body… and thats something that seemingly non-existent in the tech industry.

Personally, I think Apple knows what is the cause and the cost to them for sending out a replacement to those who demand it is far less than stopping production until a true fix can be implemented into the manufacturing/assembly process. They also know only a small percentage will report this as being a problem, particularly since the operation of the machine itself doesn’t appear to be impacted. They know that many people will just live with it and chalk it up as it just being a noise maker, and Apple is probably okay with that too, as its likely far less expensive for them to deal with the issue in that context, and they can push off a real fix to the v.2 model of the studio.

In the meantime, I am once again postponing my purchasing decision until I have confidence Apple has addressed the problem and its not just a luck of the draw with getting (or not getting) an affected machine.
How high is "that high"? We don’t have a denominator so no idea of base rate. And macrumors is a biased (unrepresentative) population. It’s not a professional forum, but one self-selected on following apple’s ‘leading edge’ (or rumors about some assumed edge). This said, the fact some members here have the problem repeat with their replacement studios does suggest the problem could be significant. That’s the single statistically meaningful datum here. But I haven’t counted the number of these as, again, what‘s the denominator?

I agree with you in thinking apple has identified the cause. My speculation about why they haven’t fixed it departs from yours, although I see merit to parts of your argument. I’m not an electrical engineer but I do follow the blog of one Jason Stoddard, who founded an audio company some 15 years ago. Recently, he commented on the number of their products impacted by extreme parts shortages and wait times, quote in italics:
  1. We thought this shortage was covered—we’ve had like 25k of these parts ordered since May 2021
  2. The delivery date slipped…and slipped again…and slipped again…And suddenly we weren’t covered.
The delivery date … is now November 2022.
Argh.
All of the above means that we had to make some decisions on what we were going to make…


Apple has enormous power which is probably what’s enabled them to continue making stuff at all. Heck, Apple might even be the cause of some of Jason’s parts shortages.

But I’m going to "imagine" something too. Why not, this is a rumor and speculation site. It’s free right? I’m going to imagine, like you, they know the problem and the fix…but just can’t source the parts!

Whatever the truth, Apple is surely losing money but also - worse - damaging their brand capital. Do they care? I don’t know. But they should.
 
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My base model Mac Studio has started to whine louder. I have installed Mac Fans Control and lowered the RPM to 1100, but it almost sounds worse at 1100. It's a constant whining, whirring sound and definitely got louder over the last month or so.
 
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I don't know if any of you realised, but if you put the GPU under huge stress, it'll also make some kind of noise, similar to if it was sparking from inside, or on some other models, it may be similar to a cricket...

My base model Mac Studio has started to whine louder. I have installed Mac Fans Control and lowered the RPM to 1100, but it almost sounds worse at 1100. It's a constant whining, whirring sound and definitely got louder over the last month or so.
Don't worry friend, it'll become even louder as the time goes...
 
Also, one thing to mention, if it starts whining and you put your hand on back of it and if you cover the left part of the back of the mac studio (left part if you look from the front of it, it's right part if you look from the back of it) and remove your hand after a few seconds, it'll stop whining for about 5-10 seconds. This effect is very weird. I'd very much like someone to maybe explain the possible cause of this...
 
Also, one thing to mention, if it starts whining and you put your hand on back of it and if you cover the left part of the back of the mac studio (left part if you look from the front of it, it's right part if you look from the back of it) and remove your hand after a few seconds, it'll stop whining for about 5-10 seconds. This effect is very weird. I'd very much like someone to maybe explain the possible cause of this...
I'm sort of pushing the limits of my wheelhouse, but what you're describing sounds like this issue may be due to what is known as resonant frequency. It comes up in engineering vibration analysis, because in certain settings, it can cause real problems...dangerous ones. If covering/pressing on the area momentarily interrupts the whine, and it then returns, well, let me put it this way: I've seen/heard it before in a car I once owned. At a certain speed +/- 1 or 2 mph, something in the console would annoyingly vibrate. Cleaning out the contents didn't fix it, nor did resting my elbow on it. Never figured it out before selling the car. Wild guess, but a semi-experienced and educated one. OTH, since one poster demonstrated the freq might be correlated to fan speed, that may complicate things, or eliminate the aforementioned theory altogether. Dunno...yet.
 
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I'll admit this thread scares me as I wait for my Studio to arrive. Hopefully I get a good one, sure as hell paid enough for it.
Don't be so sure, I guess you have more chances of getting one with whine than getting a normal one. And even if it doesn't whine/whistle at the beginning, it will likely develop that sound over time. If you can't live with it, I suggest canceling the order asap. It can be VERY loud. I was able to correct it by setting the fan to 1190 today, but it may vary between models. Of course, even on 1190, it's not silent. I've tried 1230, 1260, 1100... Until I magically came to this RPM, but from my past experience, it'll develop the sound even on 1190 over time :( Thankfully, I can live with it and I always use headphones while on computer so it's not any issue for me. In fact, if wearing headphones, you can't hear any frequency at all (and mine are not expensive or noise-cancelling ones either). My biggest fear is why is my GPU making noises when being used... Noises like if it's sparking from inside... Anyways, I'm not afraid as it'll serve me 3 years as my country is enforcing 2 years warranty + I'll buy an extra year just to be sure. After that I'll likely tade-in for newer model, but only if I don't see thousands of posts of whine on forums again.

I'm sort of pushing the limits of my wheelhouse, but what you're describing sounds like this issue may be due to what is known as resonant frequency. It comes up in engineering vibration analysis, because in certain settings, it can cause real problems...dangerous ones. If covering/pressing on the area momentarily interrupts the whine, and it then returns, well, let me put it this way: I've seen/heard it before in a car I once owned. At a certain speed +/- 1 or 2 mph, something in the console would annoyingly vibrate. Cleaning out the contents didn't fix it, nor did resting my elbow on it. Never figured it out before selling the car. Wild guess, but a semi-experienced and educated one. OTH, since one poster demonstrated the freq might be correlated to fan speed, that may complicate things, or eliminate the aforementioned theory altogether. Dunno...yet.
Nah, it can't be dangerous, it's solid block of aluminium or whatever other kind of metal. Even if it explodes from inside, it's not an issue 🤣. It can only stop working which warranty would solve, but I'm just extremely interested on what's the deal here and what's causing the issue. Since fan speed is making the difference, I can hardly believe it's something with PSU like most of the people are saying... There's more of a chance it's something with fans but at this point I simply have no idea... Really waiting for someone to take one apart and see where's the issue coming from... But it seems like nobody will as it's too expensive and opening it voids the warranty as far as I know...

To be honest, this Mac really reminds me of a car more than of a computer... It sounds like one at least... Never thought a computer could make different sounds based on what I'm doing.
 
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Also, one thing to mention, if it starts whining and you put your hand on back of it and if you cover the left part of the back of the mac studio (left part if you look from the front of it, it's right part if you look from the back of it) and remove your hand after a few seconds, it'll stop whining for about 5-10 seconds. This effect is very weird. I'd very much like someone to maybe explain the possible cause of this...
It almost sounds as if you are redirecting the pressure of the wind flow off of the area that is vibrating… maybe we can do things NASCAR style and find out where by placing small amount of tape across certain areas of the intake grill… and by doing so reducing the airflow or causing the air to move and not hit whatever it is thats vibrating now?

I personally have postponed my planned purchase of one of these until I have seen a satisfactory solution coming from Apple… I don’t want to have my home office turn into something that sounds like a data centers switch room…
 
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∑well, in terms of design, MacPro 2013 wins, hands-down. i just saw one in the repair shop one day, but it has impressed me ever since. the new Studio is a bit ugly, with those rough edges, nuff said. i'd be happy to by my first Mac directly from Apple, but those new machines just don't attract me (MacPro 2019 maybe small exception, next to M1 Mini)
 
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Interesting observations in the posts above.

A ramped up gpu would increase draw from the power supply so doesn’t eliminate the latter as a source, especially given reported deterioration over time, which suggests some part ageing and quite rapidly too.

I‘m no audio engineer - not any kind of engineer - but when the studio was announced I did wonder why two fans, fearing heterodyne effects. They’d have to be well out of tune to produce anything audible though and for sure we would never get a delta of 2.2kHz from two fans running around 1300-1400 rpm.

What about the large cavity in the cooling, eg the outlet from the fans? As a pianist (real pianos, same applies to just about any musical instrument) I’m accustomed to big soundboards and resonant cavities. As a keen audiophile I understand speaker design has to work around (‘dampen’) cabinet resonances. The 2.2kHz whine could be either a x1 amplification of some rogue part producing acoustic energy - which could be anywhere in the circuitry below - or a harmonic (x2, x3, …).

I like this cavity idea least of all as I imagine it would make the source harder to find, like @xav8tor‘s car console

Anyway, just speculation and likely worthless 🤷‍♂️
 
Nah, it can't be dangerous, it's solid block of aluminium or whatever other kind of metal. Even if it explodes from inside, it's not an issue 🤣.

Wanna bet? Read my post again. When I stated that resonant frequency can be dangerous, I said where vibration analysis is an engineering concern in certain settings, not specifically regarding the Studio. Example: Aircraft, helicopters in particular, most of which are also made of aluminum. See, e.g.:


Even so, if the root cause of the whine is somehow a potential fire hazard like some of Apple's batteries have proven to be, I still wouldn't be too cavalier about it until the issue is fully explained, and addressed if needed.
To be honest, this Mac really reminds me of a car more than of a computer... It sounds like one at least... Never thought a computer could make different sounds based on what I'm doing.
You're lucky it only sounds like a car. Get a Mac Pro "trash can." It not only looks like a jet engine, it frequently sounds like one. I've been in cockpits with engines running at full takeoff power and they made less noise than the one I'm currently typing this reply on sometimes does!
 
I did wonder why two fans, fearing heterodyne effects. They’d have to be well out of tune to produce anything audible though and for sure we would never get a delta of 2.2kHz from two fans running around 1300-1400 rpm.
Assuming the "whine" is not coming from the motor(s) themselves, or any other component, and further assumming that the two fans (as alleged) are in (near) perfect sync, if the noise is coming from the fans, then you need to factor in the number of blades on the fan to derive the frequency potentially generated, IF, that's where the noise is originating. That's why I asked earlier if anyone has seen a pic and counted them.
 
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^ good point re no of blades

your trash can has the top spec GPUs? Mine (min spec) ran whisper quiet until I upgraded the CPU and SSD, since which time it’s become just audible. I mostly tax the CPU/ram
 
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