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Takuro

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Jun 15, 2009
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10.1.2 beta 2 seems to have a new and nasty bug. Sometimes, certain keys still suddenly stop working or will map to the wrong one. I've found that in general:

- The "a" key will suddenly become unresponsive.
- The "I" and "g" keys become swapped.
- The behavior exists for both my Apple wireless bluetooth keyboard and an external USB one.
- Opening the keyboard viewer was the only way to work around this.
- Resetting all keyboard shortcuts in keyboard settings didn't fix it.

It seems to go away if I delete all com.apple plist files in ~/Library/Preferences. I'm so far just configuring all my Apple-related settings manually again and it seems to be ok so far. The only old plist files I restored from backups were for Finder, Dock, Safari, and iTunes since those weren't the cause anyway.
 
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jimbaker87

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Sep 10, 2015
2
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UK
Time Machine backup is painfully slow. The initial backup after the upgrade was huge, so I didn't pay it any attention, now it's taking 30+ minutes to backup 300 - 400 MB - they were never that slow prior to the upgrade. I turned of virus scanning of the TM drive, but it made no difference. It's on a single 1.5 TB Firewire 800 drive. That's the only FW drive I have now, so it isn't connected to a bunch of other drives. I haven't been able to find anything firm on it being an issue yet, but I'll keep looking.

The cure for this seems to be to boot into Safe Mode. Then do a normal Restart.
 

Jess13

Suspended
Nov 3, 2013
461
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Several bugs, one I have sent message to Apple Feedback.

1. Safari Preferences being reset to default every Quit. Install any Extensions, use, quit, all removed. Same with Homepage, reset to default.

2. Screenflow not recording. I tried to record to show Apple Feedback the Safari issue, and once recording is ended nothing appears in Screenflow.

3. Cannot record Chrome Canary in Audio Hijack. I only use it to record streaming audio from SoundClick; gives warning that Chrome has to be relaunched, accept, relaunches then again prompts to relaunch. Dumb loop; no recording.
 

Ja3s0n22

macrumors newbie
Feb 18, 2016
7
1
NYC
Ahh, so it's not only the Energy going up it's also CPU% going up over 100.0...I noticed the fans running loud and just checked it out. Great Apple, thanks for the bug. It happened while I was sending links to a webpage to someone...it seems messages overloads when sending any kind of link or video where it has to produce a preview in the messages window. This sucks.

lol, no one else?

The energy consumption is so bad it's triggering the fans still.
 

Takuro

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Jun 15, 2009
584
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The issue with stacks having a jagged background during mouse hover is still present in the 10.12.1 beta 2. I have a feeling Apple will never fix this, since they had a similar issue in Yosemite that didn't get fixed until El Capitan.

For comparison: El Capitan on the left, Sierra on the right.

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hababean

macrumors newbie
Sep 28, 2016
1
0
After upgrading to Sierra on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro, now all of a sudden I have these weird intermittent pink vertical lines in white areas. I've had this once before when using Beta versions of Mac OS, but never on full versions. I have previously upgraded my hard drive to a 1 TB SSD, but I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with it. Searching threads, I really haven't been finding this issue. Anyone having a similar issue, or an idea on how to fix it??
 

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Zarniwoop

macrumors 65816
Aug 12, 2009
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West coast, Finland
I just experienced similar WindowServer failure what I had many times with El Captain 11.3 and .4. So, first the machine went to total lock-up for ~20 seconds. Then screen went blank and came back again, and then beachball is running until you finally manage to get the machine rebooted. All apps are jammed, but they response after 20-30 second delay each. WindowServer was taking 20% of CPU time. Reboot takes around 5 minutes in the end when all apps are finally closed.

Yeah, this was the feature that I most hated with El Captain. And it's back!

What I was doing just before the crash: Spotify was playing on an external screen while I was reading a PDF from laptop screen. Suddenly PDF file stopped sharpening text, then Spotify ended playing, beachball came and the lock-up...

macOS/OS X has became Vista. Without Viruses, Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans or Adware (abbreviation V.I.S.T.A.). Apple doesn't need 3rd parties to mess around.

Oh the Irony... just change PC with Mac and macOS with Vista and there you have it. The reality.
 
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mrnoisytiger

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Jan 23, 2016
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10.1.2 beta 2 seems to have a new and nasty bug. Sometimes, certain keys still suddenly stop working or will map to the wrong one. I've found that in general:

- The "a" key will suddenly become unresponsive.
- The "I" and "g" keys become swapped.
- The behavior exists for both my Apple wireless bluetooth keyboard and an external USB one.
- Opening the keyboard viewer was the only way to work around this.
- Resetting all keyboard shortcuts in keyboard settings didn't fix it.

It seems to go away if I delete all com.apple plist files in ~/Library/Preferences. I'm so far just configuring all my Apple-related settings manually again and it seems to be ok so far. The only old plist files I restored from backups were for Finder, Dock, Safari, and iTunes since those weren't the cause anyway.

I'm actually having the exact same problem. At first, I thought my mech keyboard was just going bad and was about to start a warranty claim...

I don't know how a software update could break something like this and this seems completely weird that Apple would put it into public beta in this state.
 

enemy14123

macrumors member
Oct 24, 2013
80
368
Vienna
Since I installed Sierra on my Mid 2012 rMBP the laptop runs much more hotter and sometimes the fans are working.
And I'm only surfing in the Internet....
I think the idle temperature is 10-20 degrees hotter than 3 days before with el captain....
I hope they will fix it :mad:
 

yep-sure

macrumors 6502
Sep 21, 2012
495
564
Melbourne, Australia
These BlueTooth issues are driving me nuts. The Trackpad is disconnecting every ten minutes!

Oh and iTunes/Apple Music is also a nightmare, randomly splitting albums into 2-3 with different tracks in each, the download/cloud button never working or even acknowledging that you press it, so you have remove the album from your library and re-add it.

If I wasn't in the middle of all these uni assignments, I would restore from El Capitan Time Machine backup.
 
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mrnoisytiger

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Jan 23, 2016
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Since I installed Sierra on my Mid 2012 rMBP the laptop runs much more hotter and sometimes the fans are working.
And I'm only surfing in the Internet....
I think the idle temperature is 10-20 degrees hotter than 3 days before with el captain....
I hope they will fix it :mad:
I'm having the same issue with my late 2013 rMBP. It's a lot hotter than before and the fans periodically ramp up, even though I'm doing absolutely nothing. This new beta sucks. :( I wish I stayed on the GM.
 

jamesarm97

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Sep 29, 2006
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I have been having the problem where after waking from Sleep my keyboard doesn't respond at all (hit or miss). Caps lock doesn't light or anything. I have to hard power off to restart then it works.

10.1.2 beta 2 seems to have a new and nasty bug. Sometimes, certain keys still suddenly stop working or will map to the wrong one. I've found that in general:

- The "a" key will suddenly become unresponsive.
- The "I" and "g" keys become swapped.
- The behavior exists for both my Apple wireless bluetooth keyboard and an external USB one.
- Opening the keyboard viewer was the only way to work around this.
- Resetting all keyboard shortcuts in keyboard settings didn't fix it.

It seems to go away if I delete all com.apple plist files in ~/Library/Preferences. I'm so far just configuring all my Apple-related settings manually again and it seems to be ok so far. The only old plist files I restored from backups were for Finder, Dock, Safari, and iTunes since those weren't the cause anyway.
 

SebRR

macrumors newbie
Sep 30, 2016
1
0
The trash sound has disappeared since I updated to MacOS Sierra 10.12! It's not a huge major issue but it still requires fixing!!!
 

yep-sure

macrumors 6502
Sep 21, 2012
495
564
Melbourne, Australia
I have been having the problem where after waking from Sleep my keyboard doesn't respond at all (hit or miss). Caps lock doesn't light or anything. I have to hard power off to restart then it works.

Yeah, seems to be the same or similar to the Bluetooth issue I'm facing.
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I'm having the same issue with my late 2013 rMBP. It's a lot hotter than before and the fans periodically ramp up, even though I'm doing absolutely nothing. This new beta sucks. :( I wish I stayed on the GM.

My 2013 rMBP runs hotter with each new OSX release. Right now, just using Safari and iTunes, I'm hovering around 50 degrees. I remember when I first booted up Yosemite and saw it running at 45 I was shocked, as on Mavericks it was usually around 30.

I guess all it takes extra power to mess up our iTunes libraries in the background, and constantly be disconnecting and reconnecting our BlueTooth devices.
 

stepan.stulov

macrumors newbie
Sep 30, 2016
1
0
Hello, everybody. First post here.

My Sierra update didn't go smoothly unfortunately. Now, when entering either Mission Control or Application Windows by either a using a Hot Corner or a touchpad gesture and then exiting it by the same action, another application steals focus. So far I've noticed only some applications "allow to steal their focus": Opera, Firefox. Interestingly enough, if exiting Mission Control by clicking on the app from where you entered it, precisely every first time the problem appears and every second disappears.

I first thought that some of my fancy tools I installed cause the incompatibility: ControllerMate, BetterSnapTool, BetterTouchTool, Karabiner, ScrollReverser, Flux. I uninstalled all of them using App Cleaner but the problem is still there.

Has anybody experienced any such experience? Perhaps some of the tools I used override some system properties and uninstalling is not enough? Thanks!
 

Platonist

macrumors member
Nov 3, 2006
79
2
Anyone else seeing the SystemUIServer crash? It appears to do it upon waking from sleep.


Update: After uninstalling iStat Menus (didn't help) I quit running Bartender 2 and haven't had a crash yet. It's still early but putting the MBP to sleep and then waking it a few hours later would consistently produce the crash--doing so multiple times after quitting Bartender has produced no crashes so far.

Update 2: Still seeing the crashes. Nothing but the standard OS stuff in the task bar. Activity Monitor just says 'not responding'. Must be an OS level bug.
 
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Alphazoid

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Dec 5, 2014
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Mines running pretty much spot on. Only OneDrive was giving me issues but thats been updated by MS.
 

RiderX

macrumors regular
Nov 9, 2012
173
74
The missing syslog facility and new logging system including Console.app is a nightmare.
 

Zarniwoop

macrumors 65816
Aug 12, 2009
1,038
760
West coast, Finland
Adobe Flash seems to be causing some problems. It also crashed on my Firefox today. First it was playing blank video with sound only and when I clicked the video it crashed.
 

cabracabra

macrumors newbie
Oct 8, 2013
9
2
Hello, everybody. First post here.

My Sierra update didn't go smoothly unfortunately. Now, when entering either Mission Control or Application Windows by either a using a Hot Corner or a touchpad gesture and then exiting it by the same action, another application steals focus. So far I've noticed only some applications "allow to steal their focus": Opera, Firefox. Interestingly enough, if exiting Mission Control by clicking on the app from where you entered it, precisely every first time the problem appears and every second disappears.

I first thought that some of my fancy tools I installed cause the incompatibility: ControllerMate, BetterSnapTool, BetterTouchTool, Karabiner, ScrollReverser, Flux. I uninstalled all of them using App Cleaner but the problem is still there.

Has anybody experienced any such experience? Perhaps some of the tools I used override some system properties and uninstalling is not enough? Thanks!

Same behavior for me, I don't have installed any particular tools but when I have upgraded to Sierra I have lost focus on application every time change desktop, it's not a big problem but it's very annoying.
 
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SuperHamster

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Nov 18, 2015
80
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Cambridge
The nVidia web driver for Sierra (267.15.10.05f01) crashes my 2012 MBP approx. once a day with GPU exceptions. For some weird reason, always when I'm quietly surfing with Google Chrome (i.e. when the GPU ought to be passive). Reverting to Apple's default driver has fixed the issue.
 

Takuro

macrumors 6502a
Jun 15, 2009
584
274
The nVidia web driver for Sierra (267.15.10.05f01) crashes my 2012 MBP approx. once a day with GPU exceptions. For some weird reason, always when I'm quietly surfing with Google Chrome (i.e. when the GPU ought to be passive). Reverting to Apple's default driver has fixed the issue.

Personally, I am holding off on using nVidia's web driver for this very reason. I know Apple uses an insanely old version that's ages behind and doesn't perform as optimally, but at least it's generally more stable. Around the same time as when 10.12.1 comes out is when I will revisit installing their driver and begin using Sierra full time on all my Macs.
 

Donka

macrumors 68030
May 3, 2011
2,846
1,440
Scotland
Does anyone else have an issue in Finder where if you are at the top of a list of files on one tab and switch to another tab, when you go back to the previous tab, the list of files have moved up one so the top most item is hidden under the header and you need to scroll the list down to see it again?
 
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