macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[ctaylora1231]

I have a couple small issues in my Mojave usage. When quitting apps, most of the time there's a decent delay before the app quits. If I just close an app and reopen it later that's fluid and normal, but totally quitting an app hangs before doing so. Also, every other day or so the system slows considerably to an almost unusable pace and needs to be rebooted to fix this issue. I know it's a beta and won't be perfect, but just stating my issue to see if I'm the only one.

Also, bluetooth isn't great on my MacMini (very choppy), I had to stop using my Logitech MX Master via bluetooth (and logitech software won't install so I can't use the adapter) and go back to my old school wired apple mouse.

I also have had some lag issues with closing apps. I do believe it is related to the beta. I also have had issues with my bluetooth cutting out when connected To my AirPods. No issues with keyboard or mouse. I am running Mojave on a 2011 Mac mini. I also have not been able to get continuity to work after updating from beta 1

 

[pkouame]

only my experience with MacPro3,1!
If I install a GT210 in addition to the HD5770 in the MacPro3,1, then the GT210 takes over the acceleration for the HD5770.

Configuration:
Monitor1 is connected to HD5770
Monitor2 is connected to GT210

Both monitors now have a transparent dock.
Even if I remove the Monitor2, then the GT210 continues to work and Monitor1 has a transparent dock

Too bad that the HD5770 is not working anymore. Maybe there will be something else.
After all these years worth for me no change to the GTX680 more.
Ok, all right, Sierra and HS work perfectly with the HD5770.
If there is something new, let me know.

I believe your HD5770 is NOT metal compatible. I needed one that was for development. Otherwise you should be fine even though Apple claims Mojave is full metal and all other graphics and compute libraries are deprecated (but the old opengl and opencl frameworks are still there) No one really knows when they plan on totally dropping support for them.
Just something to consider...

 

[ASentientBot]

Hello everyone owners of Macbook7,1 (and I guess of any C2D Penryn Mac) with Mojave beta 4, I do have a weird issue, everything is working, except into System Preferences when I try to open some elements I got this message:

Preferences Error
"You can’t open File.prefpane because it doesn’t work on an Intel-based Mac."

Where File.prefpane is any of: Keyboard/Mouse/Trackpad


I have tried replacing them from a previous HS version but it doesn't worked, I mean they have the same behavior.

edit:
Another weird thing is when using "dark mode", opening System Preferences, the "Users & groups" and "Accessibility" panes after opened (they only) turn back in a "light mode" window, while overall is still in dark mode.

edit2:
It occurs even on a supported Mac booting from the same Mojave beta 4 external SSD, while instead booting from internal SSD Mojave beta 2 it doesn't occur.

Maybe since those are all usb input devices it's something related to the manual IOUSB*** kext patching or to Mojave beta 4? Hoping is beta 4 general issue.

As you know, I also have a manually patched MacBook7,1 running beta 4. Those preference panes work fine for me. Perhaps you should re-install?

 

[jackluke]

As you know, I also have a manually patched MacBook7,1 running beta 4. Those preference panes work fine for me. Perhaps you should re-install?

I think so, anyway I'll wait for beta 5 attempting an in-place upgrade, maybe luckily fixing my weird issues, but apart those simply plist editable from ~/Library/Preferences/ , the main system overall is almost perfect.

I encountered an issue with Siri doesn't recognize microphone, while the same AppleHDA microphone in dictation worked fine. I guess my ssd starting to misfire.

I attempted to fix my previous issues but at least fixed Siri with a very useful apple guide: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203538

edit:
just completed cloning/restoring a clean Mojave Beta 2 to another spare partition on the same Mojave Beta 4 SSD, after patched manually and booting no issues in syspref Keyboard/Mouse/Trackpad, so is blankly a permissions corrupted partition somewhere but I've tried everything, next beta 5 in-place refresh could do the trick.

 

[Kaitozaki]

So...this is my first time i did a mac os migration, now my files are in a folder... I thought it would just paste everything back to its original place -.-" ...so what do i do now? I have parallels for my windows and i dont want to be wasting time finding it...i just want to paste everything to its original place...

 

[pkouame]

So...this is my first time i did a mac os migration, now my files are in a folder... I thought it would just paste everything back to its original place -.-" ...so what do i do now? I have parallels for my windows and i dont want to be wasting time finding it...i just want to paste everything to its original place...

You may want to read the first post and then follow instructions. Come back with a specific issue, otherwise we have no idea what you'e trying to do.

 

[drpaul38]

So question... I have a Mid-2011 MBA. Can I use an external SSD drive connected via USB to SATA connector and install Mojave on that drive? Will doing that toast my system for running High Sierra if it doesnt work properly? Will I gain anything from upgrading to Mojave that I cant live without? I know this seems weird to ask but these systems as we all know are not cheap and I dont want to kill my MBA by doing something crazy. I run beta software on my iOS devices and have had little trouble with them. I am just afraid its going to change the BIOS or some other chip controller software and it wouldnt run High Sierra anymore and therefore I have a nice aluminum paperweight. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

 

[TimothyR734]

So question... I have a Mid-2011 MBA. Can I use an external SSD drive connected via USB to SATA connector and install Mojave on that drive? Will doing that toast my system for running High Sierra if it doesnt work properly? Will I gain anything from upgrading to Mojave that I cant live without? I know this seems weird to ask but these systems as we all know are not cheap and I dont want to kill my MBA by doing something crazy. I run beta software on my iOS devices and have had little trouble with them. I am just afraid its going to change the BIOS or some other chip controller software and it wouldnt run High Sierra anymore and therefore I have a nice aluminum paperweight. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

If you read the OP and follow the instructions using dosdude1's macOS Mojave patcher you should have any issues if you have a AMD/ATI GPU as far as I know there is issues with full video acceleration but you can expect some glitches being these are beta's but it seems to run smooth. I don't know much about ssd"s but I tried I think in beta 2 to install on a external HHD but wouldn't boot so I installed Mojave on my internal hdd and installed High Sierra on my external hdd no issues but if some issues comes up on Mojave I can boot into High Sierra and ask for help here

 

[pkouame]

So question... I have a Mid-2011 MBA. Can I use an external SSD drive connected via USB to SATA connector and install Mojave on that drive? Will doing that toast my system for running High Sierra if it doesnt work properly? Will I gain anything from upgrading to Mojave that I cant live without? I know this seems weird to ask but these systems as we all know are not cheap and I dont want to kill my MBA by doing something crazy. I run beta software on my iOS devices and have had little trouble with them. I am just afraid its going to change the BIOS or some other chip controller software and it wouldnt run High Sierra anymore and therefore I have a nice aluminum paperweight. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

If you're bold enough to run beta software on your iPhone than the risk should be familiar to you. There's firmware in the palm of your hands too...First ask yourself how business and livelihood critical your laptop really is. I have a handful of machines myself and only run Mojave betas on a few I can afford to "brick" and fix. This IS early beta software after all.

That said, have you tried booting HS from that external drive? Also, there are some earlier posts of testers who dual-booted Mojave betas successfully from external storage without hindering HS on the main. Check those out. YMMV.

 

[BookEmDanno]

So question... I have a Mid-2011 MBA. Can I use an external SSD drive connected via USB to SATA connector and install Mojave on that drive? Will doing that toast my system for running High Sierra if it doesnt work properly? Will I gain anything from upgrading to Mojave that I cant live without? I know this seems weird to ask but these systems as we all know are not cheap and I dont want to kill my MBA by doing something crazy. I run beta software on my iOS devices and have had little trouble with them. I am just afraid its going to change the BIOS or some other chip controller software and it wouldnt run High Sierra anymore and therefore I have a nice aluminum paperweight. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

I basically have the same system ~ MacBookAir4,2 (MBA 13" mid 2011).

I both have an internal SSD and External SSD attached to the USB port.
* Internal ~ High Sierra
* External ~ Mojave Beta (installed and used @dosdude1's mojave patcher app). Only issue I have for this at the moment is that since it is connected to the Air's USB 2.0 is the performance. Slow since it is 2.0.

Haven't experience any issues since I can selectively boot (option boot) to either.

 

[Larsvonhier]

I basically have the same system ~ MacBookAir4,2 (MBA 13" mid 2011).

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I both have an internal SSD and External SSD attached to the USB port.
* Internal ~ High Sierra
* External ~ Mojave Beta (installed and used @dosdude1's mojave patcher app). Only issue I have for this at the moment is that since it is connected to the Air's USB 2.0 is the performance. Slow since it is 2.0.

Haven't experience any issues since I can selectively boot (option boot) to either.

Have the same MBA here. At first, I used Mojave on an external drive for a while, then split the internal volume in two boot partitions and used one for HS, one for Mojave. In the meantime after figuring that Mojave is stable and up to my daily tasks, I even deleted the HS volume and merged free space back with the Mojave boot.
This can all be done with disk utility without losing data on the volumes - as long as you have enough free disk space in the first place...

 

[visberry]

Hi guys, right now my MBP 7,1 running very well but I've always want to add Handoff/Instant Hotspot/AirDrop features, are these my best choices that will work with Mojave B4 (Iogear GBU521 , GMYLE bluetooth Broadcom BCM20702, Asus BT-400). Thanks.

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Where did you get your RAM from? Im looks my for some as well! Got scammed twice

 

[jackluke]

Where did you get your RAM from? Im looks my for some as well! Got scammed twice

I do have a similar hardware MB7,1 perfectly working with 8 GB RAM two different vendor/frequencies sticks.

I doubt you will find them really new, you should buy at least one (or both) mandatory stick of 8 GB SODIMM PC3-8500 DDR3 1066MHz 204 Pin CL7 to put in SLOT1 (or both the slots), they are becoming rare today especially if you buy a better DDR3L 1.35V

while for a cheaper price you could combine with the other SLOT2 stick a kind vendor/different 8 GB SODIMM PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz 204 Pin or PC3-12800S 1600Mhz DDR3 204 Pin (I use this last one combined with the one mandatory SODIMM PC3-8500)

They will adapt both to the lower frequency.
Please note that using two different sticks at first power on will produce some beeps sound, easily fixable giving a twice PRAM reset and a SMC reset.

Be almost sure if you follow my tips using two different sticks, and the system booting and freezing later during using a couple of hours, then you have buyed one of two faulty/used/worn RAM.

 

[vmshaneeb]

Where did you get your RAM from? Im looks my for some as well! Got scammed twice

I'm using these.. so far good...

MBP 2010 13" 2.66

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/8566DDR3S16P/

 

[jackluke]

So...this is my first time i did a mac os migration, now my files are in a folder... I thought it would just paste everything back to its original place -.-" ...so what do i do now? I have parallels for my windows and i dont want to be wasting time finding it...i just want to paste everything to its original place...

You should have used "Migration Assistant" from your HS before upgrading to Mojave beta.
All the things related to your previous user MacOS are stored mainly into /Users/yourusername/

(This is a bit risky):
If you are a very advanced user, using another root account, you could copy entirely your full backed up /Users/yourusername/
and then from the prefpane "Users & groups" Advanced Options (ctrl+click) move your Home Directory to Choose a new destination (this will probably change the UUID).

(THIS IS VERY RISKY):
After copying entirely /Users/yourusername/ into Mojave /Users/ (possibly having in Mojave a different account username)
If you are enough expert using a root account from Terminal with:
sudo mv /Users/oldusername /Users/newusername
sudo ln -s /Users/oldusername /Users/newusername

(This is SAFE):
You could still copy manually your personal datas into your new Mojave /Users/yourusername/ the following folders:
- Desktop, Documents, Applications, Pictures, Download and so on
Instead (provided you backed up before) to copy your main hidden ~/Library/ folder you will need to do it from another administrator/root account.

In this way you could complete a kind of manually migration.


edit:
parallel app if you haven't formatted should be still into the Mojave root folder /Applications/
but I guess you will need to reinstall some app again.

 

[Olivia88]

I think so, anyway I'll wait for beta 5 attempting an in-place upgrade, maybe luckily fixing my weird issues, but apart those simply plist editable from ~/Library/Preferences/ , the main system overall is almost perfect.

I encountered an issue with Siri doesn't recognize microphone, while the same AppleHDA microphone in dictation worked fine. I guess my ssd starting to misfire.

I attempted to fix my previous issues but at least fixed Siri with a very useful apple guide: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203538

edit:
just completed cloning/restoring a clean Mojave Beta 2 to another spare partition on the same Mojave Beta 4 SSD, after patched manually and booting no issues in syspref Keyboard/Mouse/Trackpad, so is blankly a permissions corrupted partition somewhere but I've tried everything, next beta 5 in-place refresh could do the trick.

The patched core brightness you made did the same to my MacBook 15 2010, once I replaced the original one back, the keyboard/trackpad settings functions normally again.

 

[jackluke]

The patched core brightness you made did the same to my MacBook 15 2010, once I replaced the original one back, the keyboard/trackpad settings functions normally again.

You could be right, because that CoreBrightness was patched from a Mojave beta 2 clean installation its original size was 640 KB, and after patched became 648 KB.

While instead I've double checked now from Mojave beta 4 that file size is 718 KB.

If this is right, it means that Corebrightness needs to be patched on every Mojave beta release, the older one even if enable Night Shift correctly maybe produces the unwanted effect you described.

I will give an attempt in a while and let you know, meanwhile thanks.


edit:
Unbelievable, that was exactly the cause of the issue, Thank you very much!!!

Anyway I will try to recreate the Corebrightness Patched from a clean Mojave beta 4.
I need more time it seems the new Corebrightness.framework has changed.

edit2:
I see you joined today and fixed this important issue, you should attend the forum more, your debugging skills have been impressive!
Not only because you fixed my issue but you have discovered a correlation between "System Preferences" (in particular affecting those three prefpanes) with the CoreBrightness PrivateFramework.

edit3:
Just to exculpate myself, I followed correctly the pikeralpha's method in my binary patching, infact I have trying also replacing the untouched CoreBrightness from Mojave beta 2 putting into Mojave beta 4 and the same prefpane issues occurred again. So my manual patch worked fine until Mojave beta 2.
I guess after Mojave beta 3 release Apple has changed in Corebrightness.framework something major.

 

[TimothyR734]

Where did you get your RAM from? Im looks my for some as well! Got scammed twice

you might try Newegg for ram

 

[dosdude1]

You could be right, because that CoreBrightness was patched from a Mojave beta 2 clean installation its original size was 640 KB, and after patched became 648 KB.

While instead I've double checked now from Mojave beta 4 that file size is 718 KB.

If this is right, it means that Corebrightness needs to be patched on every Mojave beta release, the older one even if enable Night Shift correctly maybe produces the unwanted effect you described.

I will give an attempt in a while and let you know, meanwhile thanks.


edit:
Unbelievable, that was exactly the cause of the issue, Thank you very much!!!

Anyway I will try to recreate the Corebrightness Patched from a clean Mojave beta 4.
I need more time it seems the new Corebrightness.framework has changed.

edit2:
I see you joined today and fixed this important issue, you should attend the forum more, your debugging skills have been impressive!
Not only because you fixed my issue but you have discovered a correlation between "System Preferences" (in particular affecting those three prefpanes) with the CoreBrightness PrivateFramework.

I'm currently working on an on-the-fly CoreBrightness binary patcher, making this a non-issue in the future.

 

[Olivia88]

You could be right, because that CoreBrightness was patched from a Mojave beta 2 clean installation its original size was 640 KB, and after patched became 648 KB.

While instead I've double checked now from Mojave beta 4 that file size is 718 KB.

If this is right, it means that Corebrightness needs to be patched on every Mojave beta release, the older one even if enable Night Shift correctly maybe produces the unwanted effect you described.

I will give an attempt in a while and let you know, meanwhile thanks.


edit:
Unbelievable, that was exactly the cause of the issue, Thank you very much!!!

Anyway I will try to recreate the Corebrightness Patched from a clean Mojave beta 4.
I need more time it seems the new Corebrightness.framework has changed.

edit2:
I see you joined today and fixed this important issue, you should attend the forum more, your debugging skills have been impressive!
Not only because you fixed my issue but you have discovered a correlation between "System Preferences" (in particular affecting those three prefpanes) with the CoreBrightness PrivateFramework.

Im happy I could help contribute, I think the work you all do here is awesome !

 

[jackluke]

I'm currently working on an on-the-fly CoreBrightness binary patcher, making this a non-issue in the future.

This will be definitely a better general solution, even if for whim I have re-tried in manual patching the new CoreBrightness but it seems that pikeralpha's method doesn't work anymore or I haven't succeeded or needs to be adjusted, anyway I guess in a few days Mojave beta 5 will rolling out, and maybe they'll update again the CoreBrightness framework. I know, it's early to draw conclusions.

 

[Kaitozaki]

You should have used "Migration Assistant" from your HS before upgrading to Mojave beta.
All the things related to your previous user MacOS are stored mainly into /Users/yourusername/

(This is a bit risky):
If you are a very advanced user, using another root account, you could copy entirely your full backed up /Users/yourusername/
and then from the prefpane "Users & groups" Advanced Options (ctrl+click) move your Home Directory to Choose a new destination (this will probably change the UUID).

(THIS IS VERY RISKY):
After copying entirely /Users/yourusername/ into Mojave /Users/ (possibly having in Mojave a different account username)
If you are enough expert using a root account from Terminal with:
sudo mv /Users/oldusername /Users/newusername
sudo ln -s /Users/oldusername /Users/newusername

(This is SAFE):
You could still copy manually your personal datas into your new Mojave /Users/yourusername/ the following folders:
- Desktop, Documents, Applications, Pictures, Download and so on
Instead (provided you backed up before) to copy your main hidden ~/Library/ folder you will need to do it from another administrator/root account.

In this way you could complete a kind of manually migration.


edit:
parallel app if you haven't formatted should be still into the Mojave root folder /Applications/
but I guess you will need to reinstall some app again.

I'll do the very risky part...cause i have my stuff backed up in another hdd...

As i thought migration would put everything in place as before i updated... ouh well...

 

[jackluke]

I'll do the very risky part...cause i have my stuff backed up in another hdd...

As i thought migration would put everything in place as before i updated... ouh well...

Wait a sec, if you have another HS installation you can still use "Migration Assistant" creating a correct backup method, or if you have already a complete /Users/yourusername/ HS folder somewhere I guess you could launch from Mojave the "Migration Assistant" and it will bring you back to the MacOS welcome screen letting you to avoid the "Risky Method", but if you have other backups then go straight with risky method.

 

[TimothyR734]

Wait a sec, if you have another HS installation you can still use "Migration Assistant" creating a correct backup method, or if you have already a complete /Users/yourusername/ HS folder somewhere I guess you could launch from Mojave the "Migration Assistant" and it will bring you back to the MacOS welcome screen letting you to avoid the "Risky Method", but if you have other backups then go straight with risky method.

so far I have been using the night shift from the macOS High Sierra patcher with no issues the notification bar works properly I can't say for certain it works with AMD/ATI GPU's but seems stable since beta 2 and the upgrades

 

[dosdude1]

The Night Shift Patch on-the-fly binary patcher is now complete! It is now available using the Patch Updater application. So you know, applying this patch will modify the existing CoreBrightness.framework on your system. It will NOT copy over a pre-modified binary, preventing issues when Apple makes changes to this file.