macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[jackluke]

Yes. All went as expected. Format ssd, install, post install patches as usual. Never happened when I had hfs system file on ssd...

all works well but this 2 items. Trackpad and mouse preferences...

and trackpad and mouse works great, by the way. The problem is on system preferences pane

I'm still on DP6, earlier similar issues (discovered by Olivia88) on trackpad/mouse/keyboard prefpanes were due to an invalid patched NightShift CoreBrightness Framework.

Since I don't know what is the current size of DP7's CoreBrightness, only if it is still 718/727 KB try to replace it with this one: Night Shift Corebrightness already patched Mojave beta 6

This should fix (I guess) input devices prefpanes issues.

 

[sapphade]

I’ve attached a pic of the third 2009 Mac chip that I’m afraid to flash as I’m not sure which it is .

 

[jackluke]

View attachment 776490 I’ve attached a pic of the third 2009 Mac chip that I’m afraid to flash as I’m not sure which it is .

As far I know MacBooks use mainly two kind of EFI EEPROM CHIPS: MX (Macronix) and WinBond.
If you can't locate your EFI CHIP from a frontal picture, for sure it is on the backward of the logic board, so you'd need to disassemble it all.

 

[arqueox]

Ye

I'm still on DP6, earlier similar issues (discovered by Olivia88) on trackpad/mouse/keyboard prefpanes were due to an invalid patched NightShift CoreBrightness Framework.

Since I don't know what is the current size of DP7's CoreBrightness, only if it is still 718/727 KB try to replace it with this one: Night Shift Corebrightness already patched Mojave beta 6

This should fix (I guess) input devices prefpanes issues.

Yes, I can confirm this problem appear after corebrightness patch. I have replaced corebrightness file you share on previous post manually... Gonna try what you shared now. But at the same time the main difference is the fact that now I have formatted my ssd into the new apple file system.
Before that I had hfs file system and no issues whstsoever

 

[flygbuss]

I'm still on DP6, earlier similar issues (discovered by Olivia88) on trackpad/mouse/keyboard prefpanes were due to an invalid patched NightShift CoreBrightness Framework.

Since I don't know what is the current size of DP7's CoreBrightness, only if it is still 718/727 KB try to replace it with this one: Night Shift Corebrightness already patched Mojave beta 6

This should fix (I guess) input devices prefpanes issues.

Just tried it and Night Shift is back (I didn't try to patch it via the patcher since the fresh install) but the track pad pane still chrashes.

 

[jackluke]

Just tried it and Night Shift is back (I didn't try to patch it via the patcher since the fresh install) but the track pad pane still chrashes.

Ok, that's why probably from DP7 the CoreBrightness framework has slightly changed, then a new updated cbpatcher version maybe is required. I don't think to upgrade to DP7 this time, instead I'll jump directly to DP8 when rolls out.

 

[flygbuss]

I can see it for half a second before it crahses. But I can confirm that the CoreBrightness within DP7 still is 718 KB.

 

[jackluke]

I can see it for half a second before it crahses. But I can confirm that the CoreBrightness within DP7 still is 718 KB.

Could you check if the prefpane crashes even with the stock CoreBrightness Mojave Beta 7 ?

@arqueox I can assure that the prefpanes issues don't depend from APFS, I do have APFS since Mojave beta 1 on my unsupported Macs and prefpanes are perfectly working even with the trackpad samples videos.

@flygbuss maybe this happens on unsupported Macs with dual GPUs AMD/ATI and IntelHD ?
Because on Nvidia unsupported Macs it doesn't occur, neither on MacBook 13" with only IntelHD3000.

 

[arqueox]

I'm still on DP6, earlier similar issues (discovered by Olivia88) on trackpad/mouse/keyboard prefpanes were due to an invalid patched NightShift CoreBrightness Framework.

Since I don't know what is the current size of DP7's CoreBrightness, only if it is still 718/727 KB try to replace it with this one: Night Shift Corebrightness already patched Mojave beta 6

This should fix (I guess) input devices prefpanes issues.

Just checked on my other hdd with hfs file system, same installation and no crashes. This on on other SSD, with APFS file system and crashes...

 

[jackluke]

Just checked on my other hdd with hfs file system, same installation and no crashes. This on on other SSD, with APFS file system and crashes...

At this point I guess the trackpad prefpane crash could be due to the trackpad sample videos playback and not to the dosdude1's Night Shift cbpatcher.

 

[arqueox]

At this point I guess the prefpane's trackpad crash is due to the trackpad sample videos playback.

why? don't get it. In the other HDD don't crash. Same computer. Different file system. Oh, on HDD I have corebrightness stock....on SSD don't. I have changed the file you shared here.

 

[flygbuss]

Could you check if the prefpane crashes even with the stock CoreBrightness Mojave Beta 7 ?

@arqueox I can assure that the prefpanes issues don't depend from APFS, I do have APFS since Mojave beta 1 on my unsupported Macs and prefpanes are perfectly working even with the trackpad samples videos.

@flygbuss maybe this happens on unsupported Macs with dual GPUs AMD/ATI and IntelHD ?
Because on Nvidia unsupported Macs it doesn't occur, neither on MacBook 13" with only IntelHD3000.

It did crash before with the stock CoreBrightness from DP7. I didn't patch it this time (via patcher). On DP 5 and 6 I haven't had issues with a single System Preferences pane at all. Neither with patched Night Shift nor without it.

I'm on a MBP 8,1 13" with Intel HD3000.

Thanks for your help!

 

[arqueox]

It did crash before with the stock CoreBrightness from DP7. I didn't patch it this time. On DP 5 and 6 I haven't had issues with a single System Preferences pane at all. Neither with patched Night Shift nor without it.

I'm on a MBP 8,1 13" with Intel HD3000.

Thanks for your help!

Same here with same machine. This morning I had DP7 on HFS file system. No issues, no crashes. This afternoon, formatted to APFS and I have crashes on system preferences pane... weird.

 

[sapphade]

As far I know MacBooks use mainly two kind of EFI EEPROM CHIPS: MX (Macronix) and WinBond.
If you can't locate your EFI CHIP from a frontal picture, for sure it is on the backward of the logic board, so you'd need to disassemble it all.

That chip is in same location as the other 2009 a1278 mx one . But it won’t take me long to strip the logic board so I have a project for the morning . Cheers

 

[RogueB]

Anybody using this build on a Mac with a Fusion Drive?

In previous builds, it appears that APFS on Fusion Drives is still not supported. Users have reported running out of space at around 100GB "free space" which is consistent with the issue High Sierra users reported trying APFS on their Fusion Drives, which lead to support on High Sierra being pulled before its release last year.

I started a thread for the Mojave APFS Fusion Drives here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mojave-apfs-on-fusion-drives.2132845/

Please report back if you're on a Fusion Drive and Mojave seems to be fully supporting it.

I have an iMac 27", late 2012, i7, with 1 TB fusion drive currently formatted in an APFS.
I did revert to HFS+ when apple pulled support for the fusion drives, shortly after APFS introduction, due to serious, well documented, system wide problems.

I "moved" back to APFS file system as soon as Apple reintroduced APFS support for fusion-drive equipped Macs.
I experienced no issues with file system, or the fusion drive, since reapplying the APFS format.

Currently running Mojave DP7 on the iMac, without any apparent deficits.
Hope this may help.

 

[arqueox]

At this point I guess the trackpad prefpane crash could be due to the trackpad sample videos playback and not to the dosdude1's Night Shift cbpatcher.

Have you checked my log file about that crash? Maybe it could help.

 

[tsialex]

As far I know MacBooks use mainly two kind of EFI EEPROM CHIPS: MX (Macronix) and WinBond.
If you can't locate your EFI CHIP from a frontal picture, for sure it is on the backward of the logic board, so you'd need to disassemble it all.

that SST25VF032 is the SPI-flash. Same as used on MacPros 2009/2010/2012.

 

[flygbuss]

At this point I guess the trackpad prefpane crash could be due to the trackpad sample videos playback and not to the dosdude1's Night Shift cbpatcher.

Put back the stock CoreBrightness and tried again: Same result. changed it again with the one you provided and applied the post install patches from the boot stick again: Same result.
I don't think it's connected to APFS either because I had that before and it worked then.

 

[sapphade]

that SST25VF032 is the SPI-flash. Same as used on MacPros 2009/2010/2012.

Thanks . Any idea if you can use the apfs rom patcher on it safely ?

 

[RogueB]

2009 MacBook Pro 17" [5,2], C2D 3.06 MHz, 8 GB RAM, Seagate Momentus "hybrid" HDD, formatted in APFS. Every update of OS X, beta or GM, was installed over an existing operating system.

Installed, Mojave DP7, via software update mechanism. Then booted into the USB drive to apply Dosdude1's patches appropriate for MacBookPro 5,2. However, I did not install Night Shift patch, as I had problems with the program in the (distant) past. Not sure if the night-shift issues I experienced in the past are still relevant.

Post patch installation and "force" cache rebuild, I rebooted back into the internal HDD without any (apparent) problems.
Currently on Mojave DP7, build 10.14 Beta (18A365a)
Hope this may be of help.

 

[arqueox]

Put back the stock CoreBrightness and tried again: Same result. changed it again with the one you provided and applied the post install patches from the boot stick again: Same result.
I don't think it's connected to APFS either because I had that before and it worked then.

yeah... @jacklucke and you are totally right... tryed once again on HDD with hfs and crashed also... it took a while but it crashes.. must be the videos on trackpad and mouse....

 

[ipedro]

I have an iMac 27", late 2012, i7, with 1 TB fusion drive currently formatted in an APFS.
I did revert to HFS+ when apple pulled support for the fusion drives, shortly after APFS introduction, due to serious, well documented, system wide problems.

I "moved" back to APFS file system as soon as Apple reintroduced APFS support for fusion-drive equipped Macs.
I experienced no issues with file system, or the fusion drive, since reapplying the APFS format.

Currently running Mojave DP7 on the iMac, without any apparent deficits.
Hope this may help.

Thank you. That helps very much. I have the exact same iMac.

The difference for me is that I left APFS on my Fusion Drive with High Sierra and decided to wait for it to be supported rather than wipe my drive and start fresh. I’ve dealt with significant issues and have just been waiting for confirmation that Mojave supports APFS on Fusion Drives. No amount of bugs on Mojave beta can be as bad as what I currently have. I’m sure it’ll be an improvement. I’ll be installing it tonight.

 

[tsialex]

Thanks . Any idea if you can use the apfs rom patcher on it safely ?

I’ve flashed my Mac Pro dozens of times on the last week, testing BootROM mods, with ROMTool - I can't affirm that you won’t have a problem, but works nicely with the same SPI-flash.

 

[TimothyR734]

How to return to DP4 because of clear installation of MS Office on DP7 crashes?

ms office did have a update yesterday
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I haven't done the APFS reformat as I don't have an SSD - I was going to go for an SSHD but it seems not to be recommended. might have to wait a lot longer to afford an SSD big enough.

It just concerns me that APFS now seems to be required so HDD is not good enough.

I am running APFS just fine on my hdd
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Same here with same machine. This morning I had DP7 on HFS file system. No issues, no crashes. This afternoon, formatted to APFS and I have crashes on system preferences pane... weird.

As someone on Apple support said APFS is buggy Apple's devs are still using HFS as they know its buggy but its going to required by Sept release even though its still buggy

 

[jackluke]

yeah... @jacklucke and you are totally right... tryed once again on HDD with hfs and crashed also... it took a while but it crashes.. must be the videos on trackpad and mouse....

I've checked right now, on Mojave beta 6 (18A353d) the trackpad and mouse (with a Magic Mouse bluetoothed) prefpanes sample videos playback are stopped/static with a kind of glitch on it (but on Nvidia at least the prefpanes don't crash), maybe from DP6 they use some hybrid OpenGL/Metal rendering, just a supposition.
Instead I remember previously on Mojave beta 4/5 the mouse/trackpad prefpanes sample videos playback worked fine.

middle-edit:
I've re-opened them after 10 minutes and they now playback correctly on Mojave beta 6 too.

I guess on the next DP8 if these issues still persist, should be find a method to disable those mouse/trackpad samples videos to avoid unwanted prefpanes crashes.