macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[dosdude1]

i mean macbook 4,1 in EI Cap, bro

No, graphics acceleration will NEVER work on that machine in anything newer than 10.8 Mountain Lion.

 

[SevenCities-PPK]

So this may be a dumb question, but I have a MacBook5,2 that was running 10.14.1 until this morning. Then I saw the Patch Updater had a patch for Night Shift, that mentioned it supported 10.14.2.

And now I had to re-install Mojave. Trying 10.14.2 on this one, in case that's what I have to do for each update? There's nothing important on this particular MB, but is the latest 'supported' version of Mojave 10.14.1, or is this the way to update now? Reinstalling and/or upgrade in-place via the boot device picker?

 

[antony34]

No, graphics acceleration will NEVER work on that machine in anything newer than 10.8 Mountain Lion.

Thanks, you save my time to test!

 

[Larsvonhier]

i mean macbook 4,1 in EI Cap, bro

Ah, I see.
Wrong thread here. But the osxhackers tools still bring semi-acceleration: No OpenGL but framebuffer acceleration and full video memory. Quite usable, but perhaps not for high-rez youtube or other video players and games...

 

[pauclaude]

Hi,
I've a iMac12,1 (iMac 21.5-inch, Mid 2011).
Can anyone recommend a very cheap external video card suitable for installing Mojave?
Thanks....

 

[Yojx21]

You´re on the wrong track.
32/64 bit EFI is solved long ago by Piker Alpha, helping i.e. Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1 boxes to get up to El Cap. 32bit Kernel was already removed way before that, from 10.7.2 to later 10.7.x versions and since then on.
It´s the missing SSE4 instructions in the older pre-Penryn CPU of those models that prevents Mojave. You can still run up to El Cap on those machines. See www.osxhackers.net for that.

In other words:
You can install Mojave on all Penryn and later CPUs (having SSE4.1 instructions).
If you want graphics acceleration, minimum currently is Nvidia 8600M GT / 9600M.

The MB 4,1 does not have either.
The MB 5,x (from 2009, still in non-unibody white plastic) can run Mojave.

Ok, but once again, both 2008 white macbook got Penryn CPU (T8100 / T8300).

No, graphics acceleration will NEVER work on that machine in anything newer than 10.8 Mountain Lion.

So that's probably the main reason ?

 

[K two]

Some may find this useful?
APFS to HFS+ Converter
http://dl.paragon-software.com/free/Paragon-717-FRU_MacInstallUnlock_1.0.0.tbz2
enjoy

 

[LuisN]

Some may find this useful?
APFS to HFS+ Converter
http://dl.paragon-software.com/free/Paragon-717-FRU_MacInstallUnlock_1.0.0.tbz2
enjoy

Download Mactracker from the App Store

 

[saudor]

Some may find this useful?
APFS to HFS+ Converter
http://dl.paragon-software.com/free/Paragon-717-FRU_MacInstallUnlock_1.0.0.tbz2
enjoy

Given Paragon's crappy track record when it comes to HFS stuff, i would never install anything from them.

 

[k-yo]

I have a similar configuration to you except for a BT mouse and SSD for Mojave. My Mac Pro 3.1 does not have the sleep issue. It wakes up with either the BT mouse or apple usb keyboard. However, Mojave does not always seem to play nice with the Mac Pro's usb; 14.0 seemed fine but not 14.1 or 14.2 in my case.There have been several comments about this on the thread. In my case, the usb keyboard did not work during the start up so I was unable to get the boot screen etc. Once Mojave was up and running everything was ok. I had connected the keyboard via my apple LED cinema display and the usb hub did not see to be powered up during the start. Connecting the keyboard direct to the Mac Pro solved the problem. So if you are using a usb hub try connecting the keyboard directly to the Mac.
It may also be worth looking at your Energy Saver in preferences. If "Put Hard disks to sleep when possible" is ticked then untick it to see if that helps.

For me on the MacPro3,1 ”Wake for network access” has been the critcal setting in regard to random wakes from sleep - it should be set to off.

And yes the LED cinema does not activate its usb hub upon startup, the keyboard needs direct connection for boot commands.

Now running Mojave 10.4.2, have not run into issues. I have the GTX760 (non-flashed) that uses macOS included (gtx680 I think) drivers.

 

[Flacko]

For me on the MacPro3,1 ”Wake for network access” has been the critcal setting in regard to random wakes from sleep - it should be set to off.

And yes the LED cinema does not activate its usb hub upon startup, the keyboard needs direct connection for boot commands.

Now running Mojave 10.4.2, have not run into issues. I have the GTX760 (non-flashed) that uses macOS included (gtx680 I think) drivers.

The GTX 760, 770 and 780 can all use the Mojave built in drivers that the GTX680 uses. So until Nvidia drivers are provided the GTX780 is the most powerful card for the mp3.1.

 

[Pluda]

It seems your installation of Mamp has been borked. Most likely you will have to reinstall. It is not a firewall that is messing things. 14.2 has overwritten some config files. The router settings are needed for when you want to access that mac (your webpage) from outside the local network (from the internet). Here it most likely won't give you the desired solution since you are already accessing that test page from within the local network.

Well, after sutting down my mac and reebot I can’t access to 192.168.1.64:8888 anymore... the problem was not mamp, something else must be blocking this

 

[K two]

Given Paragon's crappy track record when it comes to HFS stuff, i would never install anything from them.

And you know this does not work as a fact?

 

[theapplehead]

Go to this site, search for 10.14.1, go the package file, go the part url, copy it, paste it, download it.
https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz
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Yeah you have to redo it after log outs and restarts.

I keep getting an error code in terminal saying "cannot execute binary file" . What am I doing wrong?

 

[0403979]

I keep getting an error code in terminal saying "cannot execute binary file" . What am I doing wrong?

I posted that a while ago and can't seem to understand what I even meant. What exactly are you trying to achieve and what are you trying to do that.

 

[theapplehead]

I posted that a while ago and can't seem to understand what I even meant. What exactly are you trying to achieve and what are you trying to do that.

Sorry I didn’t explain better. I’m trying to enable light mode on my unsupported version of Mojave. I downloaded the patched files from github and I attempted to enter the command into the terminal, but it keep getting that error code “can not execute binary file”. I’m almost positive I’m doing everything right. If you could, walk me through the exact steps to make sure I’m actually doing it correctly. Thanks

 

[0403979]

Sorry I didn’t explain better. I’m trying to enable light mode on my unsupported version of Mojave. I downloaded the patched files from github and I attempted to enter the command into the terminal, but it keep getting that error code “can not execute binary file”. I’m almost positive I’m doing everything right. If you could, walk me through the exact steps to make sure I’m actually doing it correctly. Thanks

You need to run chmod +x on the script path before running it. This applies to practically any .sh script file.

 

[theapplehead]

You need to run chmod +x on the script path before running it. This applies to practically any .sh script file.

So I enter in the directory then I hit cmd +x? And paste the downloaded file? How do I save the old one just in case this doesn’t work?
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You need to run chmod +x on the script path before running it. This applies to practically any .sh script file.

Also, after I locate the directory, can I just paste the file into the finder window where the directory is located? Should I delete the old one afterwards? Thanks in advance

 

[0403979]

So I enter in the directory then I hit cmd +x? And paste the downloaded file? How do I save the old one just in case this doesn’t work?
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Also, after I locate the directory, can I just paste the file into the finder window where the directory is located? Should I delete the old one afterwards? Thanks in advance

You’re talking about HybridMode, right? I don’t know much about that so I can’t help much. You need to enter the file path, you can drag it to the terminal.

 

[theapplehead]

You’re talking about HybridMode, right? I don’t know much about that so I can’t help much. You need to enter the file path, you can drag it to the terminal.

Right yeah. Im kinda stuck on it myself. If anyone else is reading this thread and does know how to do it, id be grateful. Thanks

 

[Starplayr]

The GTX 760, 770 and 780 can all use the Mojave built in drivers that the GTX680 uses. So until Nvidia drivers are provided the GTX780 is the most powerful card for the mp3.1.

I have to disagree. The most powerful card in that series that runs on Mac Pro 3,1 is the 6GB Kepler Titan. I have run both the 780 and Titan and the Titan is faster even without being flashed. It is my card of choice for running on Mojave.

What is odd, the Titan Black, which came out a year later, is the the only Kepler card that I know that does not run work Mojave. I found that out first hand and in a MVC blog post.

If you cannot get your hands on a 700 series card, 680 or Titan, there are some cheaper cards that will run Mojave. I have run the 660 and 650. The 650 is a poor mans card and you can get one for about 50 bucks. You get what you pay for. The 680s are decent and most popular for various reasons.

I just got a 690 that I'm currently running on Windows 10 on an other Mac Pro and it supports SLI (has dual GPUS).

I'm a big fan of the Kepler line 680 and above. It's starting to look like Apple will never approve Maxwell and beyond drivers for Mojave. Apple's plan is to sell you new hardware like the Mac mini "pro". The only thing I dislike about the Mini besides having only 1 or 2 bays for SSD space is the GPU. I had a 2012 quad core Mac mini and my Titan in a 2008 Mac Pro ran circles around it. I ended up ditching the 2012 Mini and its Thunderbolt display for an 8 Core 2008 Mac Pro with an ASUS 4k display. I really wish Apple would follow through on their promise for a modular Mac Pro design. There isn't one since 2012.

Also what is most sad is most MacBook Pros sold from 2016 to now have slower GPUs than 680. This is horrendous. Ten year old hardware with slight GPU upgrades should not out run brand new technology. It's so sad, I won't buy a new Mac until my current hardware won't do the job. Again I am comparing mobile computers to desktops, but the age in the technology is not getting faster on the mobile stuff. It's only getting more energy efficient and closed up.

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Given Paragon's crappy track record when it comes to HFS stuff, i would never install anything from them.

It's easier to reinstall running HFS+. I run a combination of two hardware RAIDs striped as a software RAID to get the most of out two drive bays. My only solution is HFS+ which I don't mind at all. You also don't get all a ton of EFI partitions either clogging up your boot screen if you have a flashed card. All my APFS partitions had false boot EFI partitions on drives that did not have an OS which was annoying. AFPS is great for a Supported Apple Mac and you are going to add other volumes to the drive. Also some flashed cards from MVC don't support APFS well. The flashed 780 I had did not like booting an EFI APFS partition. It would be so slow it would not boot and I had to pick the actual named partition to get it to boot. After that happened, I use either 680 cards I flash myself or the 690 and Titan un-flashed. I try to keep one flashed card hanging around for emergencies but all my un-flashed cards are faster granted they are better cards.

 

[theapplehead]

I have to disagree. The most powerful card in that series that runs on Mac Pro 3,1 is the 6GB Kepler Titan. I have run both the 780 and Titan and the Titan is faster even without being flashed. It is my card of choice for running on Mojave.

What is odd, the Titan Black, which came out a year later, is the the only Kepler card that I know that does not run work Mojave. I found that out first hand and in a MVC blog post.

If you cannot get your hands on a 700 series card, 680 or Titan, there are some cheaper cards that will run Mojave. I have run the 660 and 650. The 650 is a poor mans card and you can get one for about 50 bucks. You get what you pay for. The 680s are decent and most popular for various reasons.

I just got a 690 that I'm currently running on Windows 10 on an other Mac Pro and it supports SLI (has dual GPUS).

I'm a big fan of the Kepler line 680 and above. It's starting to look like Apple will never approve Maxwell and beyond drivers for Mojave. Apple's plan is to sell you new hardware like the Mac mini "pro". The only thing I dislike about the Mini besides having only 1 or 2 bays for SSD space is the GPU. I had a 2012 quad core Mac mini and my Titan in a 2008 Mac Pro ran circles around it. I ended up ditching the 2012 Mini and its Thunderbolt display for an 8 Core 2008 Mac Pro with an ASUS 4k display. I really wish Apple would follow through on their promise for a modular Mac Pro design. There isn't one since 2012.

Also what is most sad is most MacBook Pros sold from 2016 to now have slower GPUs than 680. This is horrendous. Ten year old hardware with slight GPU upgrades should not out run brand new technology. It's so sad, I won't buy a new Mac until my current hardware won't do the job. Again I am comparing mobile computers to desktops, but the age in the technology is not getting faster on the mobile stuff. It's only getting more energy efficient and closed up.

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It's easier to reinstall running HFS+. I run a combination of two hardware RAIDs striped as a software RAID to get the most of out two drive bays. My only solution is HFS+ which I don't mind at all. You also don't get all a ton of EFI partitions either clogging up your boot screen if you have a flashed card. All my APFS partitions had false boot EFI partitions on drives that did not have an OS which was annoying. AFPS is great for a Supported Apple Mac and you are going to add other volumes to the drive. Also some flashed cards from MVC don't support APFS well. The flashed 780 I had did not like booting an EFI APFS partition. It would be so slow it would not boot and I had to pick the actual named partition to get it to boot. After that happened, I use either 680 cards I flash myself or the 690 and Titan un-flashed. I try to keep one flashed card hanging around for emergencies but all my un-flashed cards are faster granted they are better cards.

Do you know how to run the proper commands in terminal to enable light mode/hybrid mode/flat mode? If so, please let me know.

 

[0403979]

Do you know how to run the proper commands in terminal to enable light mode/hybrid mode/flat mode? If so, please let me know.

Follow the guide on the github repo, you need to copy files, not run scripts. I have no idea what you’re doing but you’re doing it wrong.

 

[enri1357]

I was hoping to squeeze a few more years' life out of my 2011 MacBook Air, but per CoconutBattery, my battery capacity went from 80% in October (when I was running 10.13) to 58% the last time I tried to calibrate it at the beginning of December. It's still usable now, but if the battery keeps degrading like that, it will pretty much be an AC adapter-tethered laptop.

Do you think you can try observing the battery capacity with Coconut battery? Open the Coconut battery, use your MBA to discharge the battery. Is it at some point, the battery level suddenly drop steep from around 20%-30% to like 6% and the full charge capacity loses during this sudden drop?

 

[Flacko]

I have to disagree. The most powerful card in that series that runs on Mac Pro 3,1 is the 6GB Kepler Titan. I have run both the 780 and Titan and the Titan is faster even without being flashed. It is my card of choice for running on Mojave.

What is odd, the Titan Black, which came out a year later, is the the only Kepler card that I know that does not run work Mojave. I found that out first hand and in a MVC blog post.

If you cannot get your hands on a 700 series card, 680 or Titan, there are some cheaper cards that will run Mojave. I have run the 660 and 650. The 650 is a poor mans card and you can get one for about 50 bucks. You get what you pay for. The 680s are decent and most popular for various reasons.

I just got a 690 that I'm currently running on Windows 10 on an other Mac Pro and it supports SLI (has dual GPUS).

I'm a big fan of the Kepler line 680 and above. It's starting to look like Apple will never approve Maxwell and beyond drivers for Mojave. Apple's plan is to sell you new hardware like the Mac mini "pro". The only thing I dislike about the Mini besides having only 1 or 2 bays for SSD space is the GPU. I had a 2012 quad core Mac mini and my Titan in a 2008 Mac Pro ran circles around it. I ended up ditching the 2012 Mini and its Thunderbolt display for an 8 Core 2008 Mac Pro with an ASUS 4k display. I really wish Apple would follow through on their promise for a modular Mac Pro design. There isn't one since 2012.

Also what is most sad is most MacBook Pros sold from 2016 to now have slower GPUs than 680. This is horrendous. Ten year old hardware with slight GPU upgrades should not out run brand new technology. It's so sad, I won't buy a new Mac until my current hardware won't do the job. Again I am comparing mobile computers to desktops, but the age in the technology is not getting faster on the mobile stuff. It's only getting more energy efficient and closed up.

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It's easier to reinstall running HFS+. I run a combination of two hardware RAIDs striped as a software RAID to get the most of out two drive bays. My only solution is HFS+ which I don't mind at all. You also don't get all a ton of EFI partitions either clogging up your boot screen if you have a flashed card. All my APFS partitions had false boot EFI partitions on drives that did not have an OS which was annoying. AFPS is great for a Supported Apple Mac and you are going to add other volumes to the drive. Also some flashed cards from MVC don't support APFS well. The flashed 780 I had did not like booting an EFI APFS partition. It would be so slow it would not boot and I had to pick the actual named partition to get it to boot. After that happened, I use either 680 cards I flash myself or the 690 and Titan un-flashed. I try to keep one flashed card hanging around for emergencies but all my un-flashed cards are faster granted they are better cards.

I stand corrected. I forgot the early Titan cards have a Kepler core and it is good to know you have one working in the mp3.1. It is a pity the Titan Black does not work even though it is a Kepler card so it seems not all Kepler cards will work. I agree, it looks unlikely that there will be drivers for Maxwell and above. This is a shame as there are a few members with more advanced Nvidia cards that are hoping for this. Hopefully the built in driver for the 680 etc will remain in the next version of macOS. Fingers crossed!