macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[alphascorp]

Hi everybody
updated MBP5,3 Mid 2009 to 10.14.5 Beta 5 with Pacifist, I re-applied the patches with "macOS Post Install.app" 1.3.0 and force rebuild cache.

After each reboot "Patch Updater.app" request to update "Legacy iSight/Webcam Patch" so it's impossible to reapply "Night Shift" patch

Otherwise iSight (with FaceTime), Siri, Chess, Flurry and News work well (still no News+)

 

[dosdude1]

Hi everybody
updated MBP5,3 Mid 2009 to 10.14.5 Beta 5 with Pacifist, I re-applied the patches with "macOS Post Install.app" 1.3.0 and force rebuild cache.

After each reboot "Patch Updater.app" request to update "Legacy iSight/Webcam Patch" so it's impossible to reapply "Night Shift" patch

Otherwise iSight (with FaceTime), Siri, Chess, Flurry and News work well (still no News+)

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If you press Command + I when Patch Updater is open, it will bring up the list of installed patches, allowing you to re-install as necessary.

 

[avz]

I used Install macOS Mojave v.4.4.10 and Patcher v.1.3.1. I do notice FFv.66.0.4 is only slightly more resource consuming on average but the Safari ensemble seems to use more in peaks per the Activity Monitor. I will revisit Safari in .5 when it's out.

The MB5,1 is an amazing old Mac.

In my case I clean installed 10.14.3 and then updated through System Preferences to 10.14.4, 10.14.5 Beta 3,4,5. Since I started using Safari I noticed that the system handles RAM more steady(no swaps to the drive even with only 4GB of RAM installed), while with FF, the same load seems to make the system swap to the drive even with 8GB of RAM installed. It is almost like the system is "uneasy" about having 8GB installed. I also noticed that the system have a slightly higher scores in benchmarks with 4GB of RAM vs 8GB.

 

[Larsvonhier]

I usually write long post, but this time about .5 beta 5 I'll spend just few words: everything worked as before.

same here on MB 5,2

edit:
and MBP 4,1 also

 

[alphascorp]

If you press Command + I when Patch Updater is open, it will bring up the list of installed patches, allowing you to re-install as necessary.

Thanks Dosdude1
I have reinstalled all patches and "Night Shift" works well

 

[K two]

In my case I clean installed 10.14.3 and then updated through System Preferences to 10.14.4, 10.14.5 Beta 3,4,5. Since I started using Safari I noticed that the system handles RAM more steady(no swaps to the drive even with only 4GB of RAM installed), while with FF, the same load seems to make the system swap to the drive even with 8GB of RAM installed. It is almost like the system is "uneasy" about having 8GB installed. I also noticed that the system have a slightly higher scores in benchmarks with 4GB of RAM vs 8GB.

The only crashes and MIA features and flaky apps, News and Safari crashes was in .4. Never a problem with .3, ever. You and Larsvonhier seem to have the not "uneasy" old Macs. Our early Mini3,1s will not run .4 either, tried HFS+ and APFS installs using latest patcher and installer. Still cannot see any advantage to .4 over .3 in actual use. But .5 looks promising. After it's released. The .5b5 runs great on iMac11,2 APFS HDD, 16GB - so far not "uneasy."

 

[K two]

As a matter of reference on a Mini3,1 in .3 configured the same as the MB5,1 except Sandisk SSD HFS+. FF running for days, please notice the page-ins vs page-outs and swap file size?

 

[arw]

Hey,
I have a question concerning QE/CI on an HD3000.
I‘m running 10.14.4 on a MacMini5,1 (Core i5" 2.3 (Mid-2011)) with 8GB of RAM / 512MB VRAM.
My dock and menu bar are transparent and the UI seems perfectly fluid, but now I see screenshots of working Chess and „Flurry“ Screensaver (@alphascorp, @K two ), which are not working here (only Arabesque). Also I have no water ripples effect in Dashboard.
If I missed this topic somewhere on the way of this thread, I‘m sorry.
I tried the kexts/frameworks from @0403979‘s patcher as well as @dosdude1‘s ones.
To a vanilla 10.14.4 I only added the Macmini5,1 to the PlatformSupport.plist and the following graphic additions/patches:
- AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB.kext, AppleIntelSNBVA.bundle
- AppleIntelHD3000Graphics.kext, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGA.plugin, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGLDriver.bundle, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsVADriver.bundle
- IOAccelerator2D.plugin, IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext, IOGraphicsFamily.kext, IONDRVSupport.kext
- CoreDisplay.framework, GPUSupport.framework, OpenGL.framework
Any ideas if/what could be wrong? Thanks!

 

[K two]

Hey,
I have a question concerning QE/CI on an HD3000.
I‘m running 10.14.4 on a MacMini5,1 (Core i5" 2.3 (Mid-2011)) with 8GB of RAM / 512MB VRAM.
My dock and menu bar are transparent and the UI seems perfectly fluid, but now I see screenshots of working Chess and „Flurry“ Screensaver (@alphascorp, @K two ), which are not working here (only Arabesque). Also I have no water ripples effect in Dashboard.
If I missed this topic somewhere on the way of this thread, I‘m sorry.
I tried the kexts/frameworks from @0403979‘s patcher as well as @dosdude1‘s ones.
To a vanilla 10.14.4 I only added the Macmini5,1 to the PlatformSupport.plist and the following graphic additions/patches:
- AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB.kext, AppleIntelSNBVA.bundle
- AppleIntelHD3000Graphics.kext, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGA.plugin, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGLDriver.bundle, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsVADriver.bundle
- IOAccelerator2D.plugin, IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext, IOGraphicsFamily.kext, IONDRVSupport.kext
- CoreDisplay.framework, GPUSupport.framework, OpenGL.framework
Any ideas if/what could be wrong? Thanks!
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My screenshot of working features from .5b5 on iMac11,2 not .4, sorry.

 

[avz]

As a matter of reference on a Mini3,1 in .3 configured the same as the MB5,1 except Sandisk SSD HFS+. FF running for days, please notice the page-ins vs page-outs and swap file size?
View attachment 835909

I noticed that you definitely seem to have more 3-rd party apps than I do. But yeah 10.14.3 was running great for me even with only 2GB of RAM. There is absolutely no competition between .3 and .4 or .5. At the same time I am happy to move into the future as far as my machine can go.

 

[K two]

I noticed that you definitely seem to have more 3-rd party apps than I do. But yeah 10.14.3 was running great for me even with only 2GB of RAM. There is absolutely no competition between .3 and .4 or .5. At the same time I am happy to move into the future as far as my machine can go.

I'm afraid .5 or maybe a.6 will be the end of the line for the 08,09 models. I am impressed with the memory management in .3 but .5 looks very promising.

We shall soldier on, nevertheless.

"I noticed that you definitely seem to have more 3-rd party apps than I do." aside - only Apple-made apps ever crashed in .4. All the 3rd-party and 32-bit apps I actually use are/were solid.

 

[alphascorp]

Hey,
I have a question concerning QE/CI on an HD3000.
I‘m running 10.14.4 on a MacMini5,1 (Core i5" 2.3 (Mid-2011)) with 8GB of RAM / 512MB VRAM.
My dock and menu bar are transparent and the UI seems perfectly fluid, but now I see screenshots of working Chess and „Flurry“ Screensaver (@alphascorp, @K two ), which are not working here (only Arabesque). Also I have no water ripples effect in Dashboard.
If I missed this topic somewhere on the way of this thread, I‘m sorry.
I tried the kexts/frameworks from @0403979‘s patcher as well as @dosdude1‘s ones.
To a vanilla 10.14.4 I only added the Macmini5,1 to the PlatformSupport.plist and the following graphic additions/patches:
- AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB.kext, AppleIntelSNBVA.bundle
- AppleIntelHD3000Graphics.kext, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGA.plugin, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsGLDriver.bundle, AppleIntelHD3000GraphicsVADriver.bundle
- IOAccelerator2D.plugin, IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext, IOGraphicsFamily.kext, IONDRVSupport.kext
- CoreDisplay.framework, GPUSupport.framework, OpenGL.framework
Any ideas if/what could be wrong? Thanks!
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Hi avz
Like @K two I am currently under 10.14.5 B5.
I went quickly under .5b5 because 10.14.4 had a lot of problems to solve to work (chess, siri, flurry ...)
10.14.3 was better and more stable than 10.14.4 even though I did not have any KP. In conclusion .5 will look promising

 

[arw]

My screenshot of working features from .5b5 on iMac11,2 not .4, sorry.

Hi avz
Like @K two I am currently under 10.14.5 B5.
I went quickly under .5b5 because 10.14.4 had a lot of problems to solve to work (chess, siri, flurry ...)
10.14.3 was better and more stable than 10.14.4 even though I did not have any KP. In conclusion .5 will look promising

All, right. Thank you two for elaborating.
I‘m just eager to know, if the HD3000 could/should work without any limitations like your 4670 or 9600M GT - already in 10.14.04.
But well, finger‘s crossed for .5 final.

 

[sapphade]

New to the Mac thing. I have used before and know enough to get around, but stuck here. I have a 2010 MBP that I tried putting official High Sierra on. It never recognizes the SSD as a bootable device after trying Internet Recovery. I also tried a USB with High Sierra. Though about going back to older version to try getting it to work, then decided to try Mojave Patcher by @dosdude1 . When I boot from the USB drive, it just stops at a white/grey screen with black Apple logo. No progress bar, even after letting it sit for 30+ minutes. The USB drive itself is 32GB Samsung. I have an aftermarket Kingston Q500 SSD.

I have a 2012 with the same Kingston that restored just fine with Mojave. No issues. I have two of the 2010 model. Both have the same issue with same SSD. Don't really know other specs yet.

I also tried the newest release of the macOS Patcher and it seems to be stuck on the Apple logo, also.

Side note: I have reset the SMC and PRAM.

I think possibly its a firmware issue clashing with the older Macs. I had similar issues before with trion ssd. wouldn't respond in the older ones but booted fine in my 2012. I think when I booted the ssd connected as an external drive via usb it worked ok. in the end I put the trion drive in a windows machine and got a different ssd for the Mac .

 

[SCavndrF]

Thanks for the reply. I read about firmware updates, but then I read that they were included with newer updates. Of course that doesn't mean support is included. I assumed it would see it in OSX if it saw it in the Installer. I'll try another SSD tomorrow. What model are you using?

 

[sapphade]

Thanks for the reply. I read about firmware updates, but then I read that they were included with newer updates. Of course that doesn't mean support is included. I assumed it would see it in OSX if it saw it in the Installer. I'll try another SSD tomorrow. What model are you using?

I have a Kingston sa400s37120g running in my Macbook 5,1. and a western digital wds120g2g0a running in my map 5,3

 

[parrotgeek1]

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[ERR404DRG]

Attempting to install Mojave (v14.4.08 DL from App Store on mid 2013 MacBook Air) on a MacBook 4,1 and keep getting stuck while trying to make the bootable USB (16Gb). When I run the patcher (release-203600-050519 & release-10.14-203600-050519) everything seems to work up until the "Patching installer package" and "Repairing permissions"; I get the following error:

> Patching installer package.

cp: /Volumes/installer/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg: No such file or directory

Could not open package for expansion: /Volumes/installer/tmp/OSInstall.mpkg

sed: /Volumes/installer/tmp/OSInstall/Distribution: No such file or directory

sed: /Volumes/installer/tmp/OSInstall/Distribution: No such file or directory

sed: /Volumes/installer/tmp/OSInstall/Distribution: No such file or directory

> Repairing permissions.

chown: /Volumes/installer/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg: Not a directory

chmod: /Volumes/installer/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg: Not a dir+ Repaired permissions.


Sorry if this is too much information or possibly irrelevant, I'm new to unsupported upgrades and eager to give new life to my Black 08'

 

[netsrot39]

As a matter of reference on a Mini3,1 in .3 configured the same as the MB5,1 except Sandisk SSD HFS+. FF running for days, please notice the page-ins vs page-outs and swap file size?
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Sorry for offtopic but what is that monitoring tool called you're using?

 

[K two]

Sorry for offtopic but what is that monitoring tool called you're using?

iStatPro 4.92 is an ancient 32-bit widget that runs on every OS since PPC days. Really handy and has never crashed in any OS version. iStatMenus is the successor, not as handy but offers even more realtime info.

 

[K two]

Thanks for the reply. I read about firmware updates, but then I read that they were included with newer updates. Of course that doesn't mean support is included. I assumed it would see it in OSX if it saw it in the Installer. I'll try another SSD tomorrow. What model are you using?

Our NVIDIA MCP79 '08/09 vintage Macs run Samsung 840EVO w/firmware updates and SanDisk Plus SSDs with @dosdude1 MacOS patches, flawlessly.

Suggest using the v.1.3.1 patcher to acquire the MacOS you intend to install and format the USB "stick" from the patcher before building the patched installer. Works every time.

 

[hvds]

MBP5,2 updated to 10.14.5b5 from b4. All fine so far.

Here are some KP observed on MBP5,2 with 10.14.5b4 and b5. Both betas really very similar. Both are stable-enough for me when using only the 9600M GT GPU and avoiding Safari.

1) in 9600M GT mode total of 17 more KPs since 3 May, i.e. after I had erased the SSD and re-installed from scratch. Used the 10.14.3/1.2.3 dosdude USB installer, then updated to 10.14.5b4 OTA and post-install with 1.3.1 (with force rebuild cache), on 7 May updated to b5 same way.
KPs seem to correlate with Safari usage, although none of them shows it as process name. Sometimes Safari would run well for hours without KP, often shorter, and KPs happened after reboot even without using Safari again. Did a defaults delete com.apple.Safari then which (I think) improved stability again.
If not kernel, process names are 3* corespotlightd, 3* system_profiler, sysmond or clamd (antivirus).
I normally used also Sophos antivirus, and as the recently loaded kext was 4* sophos, I de-installed it; still KPs after.

2) switched once to 9400M GPU (system settings, logout/login -> gfxCardStatus shows still d for 9600M GT, shutdown and boot -> i for 9400M now.) KP few minutes after boot, with GeForceTesla kext in backtrace, report is very short and attached. That was with .5b5.

kexts in backtrace were: IOStorageFamily, apfs, AppleMobileFileIntegrity, 4* AGPM, GeForceTesla (with 9400)
kexts last loaded: 7* msdosfs, 4* sophos, 4* AudioAUUC, AppleXsanScheme
kexts last unloaded: 2* msdosfs, 6*AppleUSBMergerNub, AppleXsanScheme.
zip of all KP reports also attached.

In summary, I'm not surprised given Syncretic's post #14936. But it seems that MBP5,2, at least my one, is less stable then other machines with 10.14.5 mentioned in this thread. Note that I did fsck -y and AHT on my machine, showing no errors.
Still hope not to go back to 10.14.3 though. I start using the Hopper disassembler to learn more about my system (I found that a lot easier at Motorola 68k times. I noticed dosdude has member number 68000?).

 

[SCavndrF]

Our NVIDIA MCP79 '08/09 vintage Macs run Samsung 840EVO w/firmware updates and SanDisk Plus SSDs with @dosdude1 MacOS patches, flawlessly.

Suggest using the v.1.3.1 patcher to acquire the MacOS you intend to install and format the USB "stick" from the patcher before building the patched installer. Works every time.

Sweet! Thanks for the info. I have not tried it through the installer. I'll check those drives out. I don't think I have those handy. I saw the OWC drives weren't terribly prices, which is what I was worried about. I really didn't want to buy if I wasn't sure they would fix the issue, either.

 

[babatrades]

Two things in this post:

1. What specifically is "buggy" in 10.14.4 on your machines? My MacBook5,1 has been rock solid besides recovery partition, which I gave up on after some tips by jackluke failed to get it to boot. What bugs are you guys experiencing?
2. I recently opened my MacBook and reapplied thermal compound. It was original foxcon application, really dried up and I was experiencing really high temps in SMCfancontrol. Temps are down significantly and fan noise is now considerably less noticeable in day to day tasks, BUT after I rebuilt the machine I looked at Arctic Silver's application recommendation and it stated to use the "surface spread" method. I used just a rice sized dot in the centre of the GPU and CPU and put the spreader back on. Is this something I should be concerned about?

 

[pkouame]

Two things in this post:

1. What specifically is "buggy" in 10.14.4 on your machines? My MacBook5,1 has been rock solid besides recovery partition, which I gave up on after some tips by jackluke failed to get it to boot. What bugs are you guys experiencing?
2. I recently opened my MacBook and reapplied thermal compound. It was original foxcon application, really dried up and I was experiencing really high temps in SMCfancontrol. Temps are down significantly and fan noise is now considerably less noticeable in day to day tasks, BUT after I rebuilt the machine I looked at Arctic Silver's application recommendation and it stated to use the "surface spread" method. I used just a rice sized dot in the centre of the GPU and CPU and put the spreader back on. Is this something I should be concerned about?

I'm a fan of Silver - the spread is best thermally, but if you get the desired result with your rice dot then stick with it - no real reason to fret. Applying too much thermal compound is the biggest no-no, but looks like you err'ed on the right side. This is food for thought for me and my old mbp 5,3 - I do notice the fans churning a bit more than I remember...
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Here are some KP observed on MBP5,2 with 10.14.5b4 and b5. Both betas really very similar. Both are stable-enough for me when using only the 9600M GT GPU and avoiding Safari.

1) in 9600M GT mode total of 17 more KPs since 3 May, i.e. after I had erased the SSD and re-installed from scratch. Used the 10.14.3/1.2.3 dosdude USB installer, then updated to 10.14.5b4 OTA and post-install with 1.3.1 (with force rebuild cache), on 7 May updated to b5 same way.
KPs seem to correlate with Safari usage, although none of them shows it as process name. Sometimes Safari would run well for hours without KP, often shorter, and KPs happened after reboot even without using Safari again. Did a defaults delete com.apple.Safari then which (I think) improved stability again.
If not kernel, process names are 3* corespotlightd, 3* system_profiler, sysmond or clamd (antivirus).
I normally used also Sophos antivirus, and as the recently loaded kext was 4* sophos, I de-installed it; still KPs after.

2) switched once to 9400M GPU (system settings, logout/login -> gfxCardStatus shows still d for 9600M GT, shutdown and boot -> i for 9400M now.) KP few minutes after boot, with GeForceTesla kext in backtrace, report is very short and attached. That was with .5b5.

kexts in backtrace were: IOStorageFamily, apfs, AppleMobileFileIntegrity, 4* AGPM, GeForceTesla (with 9400)
kexts last loaded: 7* msdosfs, 4* sophos, 4* AudioAUUC, AppleXsanScheme
kexts last unloaded: 2* msdosfs, 6*AppleUSBMergerNub, AppleXsanScheme.
zip of all KP reports also attached.

In summary, I'm not surprised given Syncretic's post #14936. But it seems that MBP5,2, at least my one, is less stable then other machines with 10.14.5 mentioned in this thread. Note that I did fsck -y and AHT on my machine, showing no errors.
Still hope not to go back to 10.14.3 though. I start using the Hopper disassembler to learn more about my system (I found that a lot easier at Motorola 68k times. I noticed dosdude has member number 68000?).

What is your exact model type : https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=MacBookPro5,2

Does it still crash consistently when you switch gpus in GeForceTesla?