macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[avz]

Yes, but check this post, it's what I was refering to

macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

"THANK YOU!!" Nicely thought of and done. Can't wait to put 10.14.4 on my machine . . .

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You are mixing two DIFFERENT things. This is why it is important to always understand the context in which they are used. This is how the media is used to manipulate peoples perception of reality.

 

[juampapo546]

You are mixing two DIFFERENT things. This is why it is important to always understand the context in which they are used. This is how the media is used to manipulate peoples perception of reality.

Well, please enlighten me, what's about it's context that I won't be able to make Mojave work on 12.1 iMac? (I was about to install lmao)

 

[avz]

Well, please enlighten me, what's about it's context that I won't be able to make Mojave work on 12.1 iMac? (I was about to install lmao)

You mixed the absence of the acceleration on Radeon 5XXX and 6XXX cards with the fact that Apple introduced some serious changes(enforcing Metal) with the 10.14.4 that broke acceleration on ALL non-metal machines.

 

[juampapo546]

You mixed the absence of the acceleration on Radeon 5XXX and 6XXX cards with the fact that Apple introduced some serious changes(enforcing Metal) with the 10.14.4 that broke acceleration on ALL non-metal machines.

Ooh now I see, thanks.
Btw, there is no way of getting Mojave working on my machine, isn't it? If there is by giving up dedicated gpu, how much would be the impact changing to integrated Intel?

 

[avz]

Ooh now I see, thanks.
Btw, there is no way of getting Mojave working on my machine, isn't it? If there is by giving up dedicated gpu, how much would be the impact changing to integrated Intel?

Haha, it is very easy to confuse you. Dosdude1 and ASentientBot managed to fix the acceleration by reverting to the way acceleration was handled in 10.14.3. All I know is that my Late 2008 MacBook is working flawlessly with an integrated card.

 

[juampapo546]

Haha, it is very easy to confuse you. Dosdude1 and ASentientBot managed to fix the acceleration by reverting to the way acceleration was handled in 10.14.3. All I know is that my Late 2008 MacBook is working flawlessly with an integrated card.

Well here I'm quite a noob, I've been using Ubuntu for a while because it was better for my development but now I'm giving Mac os a shot cause it's waay better at animations and design in general.
Now, my iMac is a 2011 with Radeon 6750M (non metal obviously). What should I do to boot Mojave? Just install with the patcher, and install as well that script I mentioned before? Or I'm not able to do anything of it and I just stay at high sierra? One thing I do want is to have the most cpu/ram performance as possible, the development I do requires a huge CPU load
Thanks

 

[avz]

Well here I'm quite a noob, I've been using Ubuntu for a while because it was better for my development but now I'm giving Mac os a shot cause it's waay better at animations and design in general.
Now, my iMac is a 2011 with Radeon 6750M (non metal obviously). What should I do to boot Mojave? Just install with the patcher, and install as well that script I mentioned before? Or I'm not able to do anything of it and I just stay at high sierra? One thing I do want is to have the most cpu/ram performance as possible, the development I do requires a huge CPU load
Thanks

It has nothing to do with being a noob as I am really just being the Captain Obvious.

I am afraid that the only way for you to move forward is to replace your Radeon 6750M with a Metal supported card. LuisN already provided you with the links.

 

[juampapo546]

It has nothing to do with being a noob as I am really just being the Captain Obvious.

I am afraid that the only way for you to move forward is to replace your Radeon 6750M with a Metal supported card. LuisN already provided you with the links.

Kul thx

 

[andreas_stgt]

I am happy with my Macbook Pro 2009 and now Mojave and APFS (before HS and HFS+).
The only thing which is different - since a few days working with Mojave - is that the startup time compared to HS is significant longer - i think at least 30% longer. I am using same Apps as startup like Tuxera NTFS, Adblocker, Little Snitch. If the system is running i cant say if it is also slower or not - maybe the startup of Apps like word or Finder actions is a bit slower than using HS.
Perhaps RAM consumption of the OS itself compared to HS can be little higher and the 8GB system has less RAM free (for file action caching)? Or can be APFS general slower than HFS+?
Here Memory footprint direct after startup: I disabled NTFS Tuxera & Adblocker. Little Snitch is runing.
List is sorted by ram usage.
Looks like the 8 GB has only about 1,5 GB free.



Has someone an such startup foorptint of HS or El Capitan?
Is it really not possible to put in more RAM nto the MBP 5,3?

 

[VaZ]

I am happy with my Macbook Pro 2009 and now Mojave and APFS (before HS and HFS+).
The only thing which is different - since a few days working with Mojave - is that the startup time compared to HS is significant longer - i think at least 30% longer. I am using same Apps as startup like Tuxera NTFS, Adblocker, Little Snitch. If the system is running i cant say if it is also slower or not - maybe the startup of Apps like word or Finder actions is a bit slower than using HS.
Perhaps RAM consumption of the OS itself compared to HS can be little higher and the 8GB system has less RAM free (for file action caching)? Or can be APFS general slower than HFS+?
Here Memory footprint direct after startup: I disabled NTFS Tuxera & Adblocker. Little Snitch is runing.
List is sorted by ram usage.
Looks like the 8 GB has only about 1,5 GB free.

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Has someone an such startup foorptint of HS or El Capitan?
Is it really not possible to put in more RAM nto the MBP 5,3?

I'm wondering the same thing with my MBP 5,4 if it can take 2x8GB. I have those sticks in my MBP 8,1 running at 1600MHz so maybe one day i'll swap and see.

 

[andreas_stgt]

My internet search for upgrades MBP 2009 gives no 16 GB. MBP 2010/11 and newer can work with 2*8 GB modules even not supported as they were sold (EFI update by Apple supports 16 GB?). But same - I think - happens not for MBP Mid 2009 and older.
So seems to be limited to 8 GB. What normally not toooo bad but 16 GB would be better - at least with Mojave+and modern Apps running + some background tasks/Apps

 

[TimothyR734]

I am happy with my Macbook Pro 2009 and now Mojave and APFS (before HS and HFS+).
The only thing which is different - since a few days working with Mojave - is that the startup time compared to HS is significant longer - i think at least 30% longer. I am using same Apps as startup like Tuxera NTFS, Adblocker, Little Snitch. If the system is running i cant say if it is also slower or not - maybe the startup of Apps like word or Finder actions is a bit slower than using HS.
Perhaps RAM consumption of the OS itself compared to HS can be little higher and the 8GB system has less RAM free (for file action caching)? Or can be APFS general slower than HFS+?
Here Memory footprint direct after startup: I disabled NTFS Tuxera & Adblocker. Little Snitch is runing.
List is sorted by ram usage.
Looks like the 8 GB has only about 1,5 GB free.

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Has someone an such startup foorptint of HS or El Capitan?
Is it really not possible to put in more RAM nto the MBP 5,3?

That looks about normal but you can find a free memory clean app in the App Store and up at the top left hand you can click on the settings right next to the info button (i) and run system diagnostics sometimes that smooths things out
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[Sandleford]

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Hi, Thank you so much for the exellent work you've done!
I have just used the catalina enabler from you for my mac pro 4,1 and I keep getting this patch updater that wants to install a fix for legacy audio even though all the outputs are working? Or are they? haven't tested them but they are all showing up in the audio control panel. In my experience, if they show up they usually work.

Is there a way to stop it from asking to install it?

Once again, Thank you much! -Lysander Lenihan
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Has anyone heard of any reports of being able to use Nvidia and Amd video cards at the same time for catalina?

Got a gt630 and rx580...

A royal PITA to use if I want boot screen

 

[juampapo546]

It has nothing to do with being a noob as I am really just being the Captain Obvious.

I am afraid that the only way for you to move forward is to replace your Radeon 6750M with a Metal supported card. LuisN already provided you with the links.

I have another question related to changing video cards. If I change for a metal-compatible one could I run fortnite without any further changes or I should install something outside apple store or even Mojave ?

 

[Yebubbleman]

Serious apologies in advance if this has been asked before, but my mother and stepfather both have 2011 Mac minis. They both still have some 32-bit software, which means that if I'm upgrading them to an unsupported OS, it's Mojave or bust.

Of note, his Mac mini is one that had a 2.7GHz Core i7 and the Radeon HD 6630M (Macmini5,2) and hers is the one that just had the Intel HD 3000 and a 2.3GHz Processor (Macmini5,1). His had a 750GB HDD with a 256GB SSD (that has since been converted into a Fusion drive with diskutil core storage magic) and hers originally shipped with a 500GB HDD that I replaced with a 500GB OWC SSD. Both are running macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 with the latest security updates applied.

My goal is to tide them over until ARM iMacs and/or Mac minis come out so that they can just upgrade to that. With High Sierra losing security update support by becoming three versions old in the fall, I'm concerned that their machines will become more vulnerable.

Should I attempt to upgrade them to Mojave, and if so, how?

(Furthermore, I should state that he uses his computer professionally for work in addition to personal use; she is retired and mainly uses her computer recreationally.)

 

[avz]

I have another question related to changing video cards. If I change for a metal-compatible one could I run fortnite without any further changes or I should install something outside apple store or even Mojave ?

I never had to replace the video card myself as all my 13 inch MacBooks/Pros have integrated GPU's. My general understanding is that a Metal compatible video card will pretty much gives you a 99% Mojave supported machine which will run anything that a supported machine will run. You just have to do your research in a specialised threads about which particular cards have better drivers available(this will ultimately determine performance and experience) and also figure out the way to get around black boot menu screen as your card might not be flashed for Mac.

 

[avz]

Serious apologies in advance if this has been asked before, but my mother and stepfather both have 2011 Mac minis. They both still have some 32-bit software, which means that if I'm upgrading them to an unsupported OS, it's Mojave or bust.

Of note, his Mac mini is one that had a 2.7GHz Core i7 and the Radeon HD 6630M (Macmini5,2) and hers is the one that just had the Intel HD 3000 and a 2.3GHz Processor (Macmini5,1). His had a 750GB HDD with a 256GB SSD (that has since been converted into a Fusion drive with diskutil core storage magic) and hers originally shipped with a 500GB HDD that I replaced with a 500GB OWC SSD. Both are running macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 with the latest security updates applied.

My goal is to tide them over until ARM iMacs and/or Mac minis come out so that they can just upgrade to that. With High Sierra losing security update support by becoming three versions old in the fall, I'm concerned that their machines will become more vulnerable.

Should I attempt to upgrade them to Mojave, and if so, how?

(Furthermore, I should state that he uses his computer professionally for work in addition to personal use; she is retired and mainly uses her computer recreationally.)

Radeon HD 6XXX must stay on High Sierra, Intel HD 3000 can be upgraded to Mojave. Just follow dosdude1's instructions, watch his youtube video presentation a few times.

I am still feeling safe running Mavericks, so I can't give you any advice to "upgrade to Mojave because of security updates". I personally run a patched Mojave because I think it is very cool, security updates are just a bonus. Patched Mojave will still be limited to the apps that have been introduced before the 10.14.3. If you see that the app has a minimum OS requirement 10.14.4, this usually means that this app rely mostly on Metal which your patched machine does not have. You can see the explanation of this in one of my posts above.

 

[carlcaulkett]

Hello, I am happily running macOS 10.14.6 Mojave on my old Mac Pro (early 2009), but I am seriously thinking of getting a new Mac Mini.

If one arrives with Catalina (or even Big Sur) installed, could I use the @dosdude1 patch as an easy way of downgrading to Mojave?

I'm an active electronic musician, and, until more VST and DAW manufacturers get their products fully compatible with the latest versions of macOS, Mojave represents the sweet spot for the best combination of stability, performance, compatibility and most importantly, dark mode ?

Obviously, I wouldn't need to use any of the specific @dosdude1 tweaks, but it just seems like a convenient way to get Mojave installed.

 

[LuisN]

Serious apologies in advance if this has been asked before, but my mother and stepfather both have 2011 Mac minis. They both still have some 32-bit software, which means that if I'm upgrading them to an unsupported OS, it's Mojave or bust.

Of note, his Mac mini is one that had a 2.7GHz Core i7 and the Radeon HD 6630M (Macmini5,2) and hers is the one that just had the Intel HD 3000 and a 2.3GHz Processor (Macmini5,1). His had a 750GB HDD with a 256GB SSD (that has since been converted into a Fusion drive with diskutil core storage magic) and hers originally shipped with a 500GB HDD that I replaced with a 500GB OWC SSD. Both are running macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 with the latest security updates applied.

My goal is to tide them over until ARM iMacs and/or Mac minis come out so that they can just upgrade to that. With High Sierra losing security update support by becoming three versions old in the fall, I'm concerned that their machines will become more vulnerable.

Should I attempt to upgrade them to Mojave, and if so, how?

(Furthermore, I should state that he uses his computer professionally for work in addition to personal use; she is retired and mainly uses her computer recreationally.)

If they are working well, don't touch

 

[Yebubbleman]

If they are working well, don't touch

They're fine. The only reason I want to mess with it is that I fear for High Sierra not getting security patch support after this fall. And I know they do too. Trust me, I'd rather not try to hack on a macOS release for family members if I don't have to. This is to tide them over until they can buy an ARM Mac so that they're at least on that side of the transition and that much more likely to have their Macs last that much longer before they are next having to buy a new Mac.

 

[Dilli]

That looks about normal but you can find a free memory clean app in the App Store and up at the top left hand you can click on the settings right next to the info button (i) and run system diagnostics sometimes that smooths things out
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Hi Tim really like your desktop with all tools on right side ready for use.? I just recalled the opencore version 3 usb , can I just install over and above the existing version 1 (havent updated yet?) or do I need to format and then install to the usb stick.

 

[Dayo]

They're fine. The only reason I want to mess with it is that I fear for High Sierra not getting security patch support after this fall. And I know they do too. Trust me, I'd rather not try to hack on a macOS release for family members if I don't have to. This is to tide them over until they can buy an ARM Mac so that they're at least on that side of the transition and that much more likely to have their Macs last that much longer before they are next having to buy a new Mac.

For the use case you described, you should be looking at moving them to Catalina (sure you can find alternatives to the 32 bit software) and starting to save for their Xmas 2022 presents.

 

[LuisN]

They're fine. The only reason I want to mess with it is that I fear for High Sierra not getting security patch support after this fall. And I know they do too. Trust me, I'd rather not try to hack on a macOS release for family members if I don't have to. This is to tide them over until they can buy an ARM Mac so that they're at least on that side of the transition and that much more likely to have their Macs last that much longer before they are next having to buy a new Mac.

High Sierra will receive security updates until September or October. I don't believe it becomes unsecure the day after support ends. Most of the security problems are browser (internet) related, if you feel the need just download Firefox or another browser until you buy an ARM Mac. I'm almost sure your HS computers will be secure for some months after the nd of support.

 

[failsandwich]

My early 2011 13'' MacBook Pro has a few odd-looking effects that seem to be some sort of graphical bug. They appear in both light mode and dark mode, and also with font smoothing enabled or disabled.

I'm assuming it's something to do with my MacBook not having a retina display. Is it possible to fix these bugs?

 

[Yebubbleman]

For the use case you described, you should be looking at moving them to Catalina (sure you can find alternatives to the 32 bit software) and starting to save for their Xmas 2022 presents.

Since most of the 32-bit must-haves cost money to upgrade to a 64-bit version, that's a hard no. At least not until they get new Macs.

High Sierra will receive security updates until September or October. I don't believe it becomes unsecure the day after support ends. Most of the security problems are browser (internet) related, if you feel the need just download Firefox or another browser until you buy an ARM Mac. I'm almost sure your HS computers will be secure for some months after the nd of support.

I thought the OS two behind current got its last security update when the current OS got its last point release. Either way, your advice about having them use a non-Safari browser is sound. She uses Chrome pretty much exclusively. Telling her to do so entirely exclusively won't be a problem. Not sure about him though. I know that there's a fair amount of other things patched in those security updates, but using Chrome, any other Chromium browser, or Firefox would definitely help. Thanks!