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AwlsomeAlex

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Any idea if we can get this working with the MacBook6,1 and MacBook7,1 as it seems C2D processors are working (to a degree) and nVidia can be ran (with limited/no acceleration)? Like theoretically not literally as a lot of this can’t be done until the GM anyway....
 

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Any idea if we can get this working with the MacBook6,1 and MacBook7,1 as it seems C2D processors are working (to a degree) and nVidia can be ran (with limited/no acceleration)? Like theoretically not literally as a lot of this can’t be done until the GM anyway....
As the person who first figured out C2D processor, and as someone who only owns a MacBook7,1, yes, it works on this computer ;)
No acceleration yet tho.
 
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AwlsomeAlex

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As the person who first figured out C2D processor, and as someone who only owns a MacBook7,1, yes, it works on this computer ;)
No acceleration yet tho.
That’s good to hear, hoping to pick up one of these cheap, but don’t want to be land-locked to High Sierra for two years. Now a general question since you’re the proud owner of one, how does it perform?
Edit: on High Sierra
 

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That’s good to hear, hoping to pick up one of these cheap, but don’t want to be land-locked to High Sierra for two years. Now a general question since you’re the proud owner of one, how does it perform?
Edit: on High Sierra

Overall it's a good computer, but keep in mind that it is 8 years old and when you buy a $50-$100 laptop, you'll get what you paid for. The battery life is meh, and any kind of graphical work (gaming, video editing, big Photoshop/Illustrator projects...) is a bit too much for it. But, for any kind of basic school/office/internet stuff, you'll have no trouble. I try to only have a few things open at a time and I hardly notice any lag. I've only got 6GB of RAM but I'm about to get an SSD and some more RAM, you should do the same if you can.

One thing I would say, people often suggest using an old version of OS X on these slower computers. Don't bother with that. In my experience, anything from Mavericks to High Sierra runs just about the same.

A really big plus is if anything goes wrong, you can fix it for next to nothing. Broken screen? $50. Dead logic board? $40.

Good luck with your purchase, it really is a fantastic computer and I fully intend to use mine until the end of university (in grade 11 now).
 

AwlsomeAlex

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Overall it's a good computer, but keep in mind that it is 8 years old and when you buy a $50-$100 laptop, you'll get what you paid for. The battery life is meh, and any kind of graphical work (gaming, video editing, big Photoshop/Illustrator projects...) is a bit too much for it. But, for any kind of basic school/office/internet stuff, you'll have no trouble. I try to only have a few things open at a time and I hardly notice any lag. I've only got 6GB of RAM but I'm about to get an SSD and some more RAM, you should do the same if you can.

One thing I would say, people often suggest using an old version of OS X on these slower computers. Don't bother with that. In my experience, anything from Mavericks to High Sierra runs just about the same.

A really big plus is if anything goes wrong, you can fix it for next to nothing. Broken screen? $50. Dead logic board? $40.

Good luck with your purchase, it really is a fantastic computer and I fully intend to use mine until the end of university (in grade 11 now).
I would definitely modernize it with 8GB of RAM and a cheap ADATA SSD (since it’s SATA 3 anyway), but on that note what should be a good price range to look for? Also I used a MacBook Pro Mid 2010 (sold it to a friend) and it suited my needs as I was going along with it, I just plan on getting some sort of Apple Device to get through 11-12th Grade as I’m getting a brand new MacBook Pro before college.
 
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I would definitely modernize it with 8GB of RAM and a cheap ADATA SSD (since it’s SATA 3 anyway), but on that note what should be a good price range to look for? Also I used a MacBook Pro Mid 2010 (sold it to a friend) and it suited my needs as I was going along with it, I just plan on getting some sort of Apple Device to get through 11-12th Grade as I’m getting a brand new MacBook Pro before college.

Not too sure about price range. I got mine a few years back, but I just got mega-lucky and picked up one on Kijiji for my sister for $50 cash. On eBay they seem to be more like $100. Check out local stuff for sure. For upgrades, I'd take a look at Other World Computing, though it's definitely not super cheap, I just ordered a 120GB SSD for about $60. I got lucky with a sketchy $30 3rd party battery on eBay and it works great.

One more thing -- Be careful with the HDD cable when putting in the SSD. They're known to be flakey.
 

AwlsomeAlex

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Not too sure about price range. I got mine a few years back, but I just got mega-lucky and picked up one on Kijiji for my sister for $50 cash. On eBay they seem to be more like $100. Check out local stuff for sure. For upgrades, I'd take a look at Other World Computing, though it's definitely not super cheap, I just ordered a 120GB SSD for about $60. I got lucky with a sketchy $30 3rd party battery on eBay and it works great.

One more thing -- Be careful with the HDD cable when putting in the SSD. They're known to be flakey.
Thanks for the advice, if y’all can figure out how to get Mojave working to the point it isn’t lagging terribly (some sort of acceleration) I’ll definitely consider one.
 
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theone29

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I'm on a cMP5,1 running Mojave b3, I keep getting this error trying to create a USB Stick for my cMP3,1. The USB stick is formatted as Mac OS Extended(Journaled) GUID Partition Map. Please assist.

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Larsvonhier

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... I've only got 6GB of RAM but I'm about to get an SSD and some more RAM, you should do the same if you can ...

One thing I would say, people often suggest using an old version of OS X on these slower computers. Don't bother with that. In my experience, anything from Mavericks to High Sierra runs just about the same.

Good luck with your purchase, it really is a fantastic computer and I fully intend to use mine until the end of university (in grade 11 now).
Swapping in a SSD is absolutely recommended. Did that with most of my old machines and it drastically reduces load times and lags are virtually gone in comparison. All that page-in-page-out virtual memory stuff just isn´t noticeable any more then. More RAM is also not a bad idea, but has much less impact when you´re on a SSD already. Even systems with only 2GB (soldered in i.e. MacBook Air 2,1) run ok-ish with SSD, not at all useable with mechanical HDD.
 

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I'm on a cMP5,1 running Mojave b3, I keep getting this error trying to create a USB Stick for my cMP3,1. The USB stick is formatted as Mac OS Extended(Journaled) GUID Partition Map. Please assist.

View attachment 769674

I had that at first but reformatted it over and it worked a second time. However, the created boot stick does not boot my MP3,1 with a GTX 680. The boot proceeds to within about 1 cm of the end of the progress bar and stalls out. Waited an hour but no movement, so something is not quite right. Frustrating.
 

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I'm on a cMP5,1 running Mojave b3, I keep getting this error trying to create a USB Stick for my cMP3,1. The USB stick is formatted as Mac OS Extended(Journaled) GUID Partition Map. Please assist.

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Gawd, that is very strange. How about verifying that your USB flash drive is formatted as Mac OS Extended(Journaled). Is your flash drive at least 16 GB? If so, maybe there is a problem with Mohave on your system. The flash drive is best formatted and created (the Mohave installer from dosdude1) in High Sierra. Hope this helps.

Addendum: I have the MP 5,1 running Mohave running quite well. Please note: I have a GPU that supports Metal.
 

theone29

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The stick is 16GB, I reformatted and checked several time. And the dd1patched also warned you that it will format it also. smh. :(
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I had that at first but reformatted it over and it worked a second time. However, the created boot stick does not boot my MP3,1 with a GTX 680. The boot proceeds to within about 1 cm of the end of the progress bar and stalls out. Waited an hour but no movement, so something is not quite right. Frustrating.

I shortened the name of the stick and it finished. But now I am having some what of the same issue that you are having. I was able to boot and select the stick on my cMP3,1. The 3,1 also has a GTX 680 flashed, it's on the Apple Logo with the status bar below at about 80-90% and hanging or moving very slowly.
[doublepost=1531117662][/doublepost]Frustrating, but expected. Still got much love for dd1 and everyone involved. :)
 
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Larsvonhier

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... I am currently finalizing a BootROM patching tool that will add native APFS booting support to these systems, but until then, continue to use HFS volumes.

Download available here.
Great work, thanks!
If there is something I could do to help with the BootROM patcher for MacBook Air 2,1, please don´t hesitate to PM or reply. (I´m the one with a temporarily bricked MBA2,1 due to ROM patching gone wrong - had to replace the EFI flash to get it running again). Any idea what´s different on this machine from BootROM patching perspective yet?
I still have the old "beeping-only" chip if that´d of help to you.
 

netsrot39

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That is so cool to hear that the MacBook 7,1 kinda works with Mojave. I'm really looking forward to try this out. Are the kexts already implemented in the patcher of dosdode1?
 

jackluke

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Someone should dissassemble that plugin and find exactly where the Core2 arch crashes, compared to the Core "i" architectures...
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I think "Quartz Extreme" will always be used to refer to hardware acceleration using the GPU, irrespective of the actual "backend/API" that allows that hardware acceleration to happen. In fact, the Quartz is the rendering engine of macOS, so it's just an API-independent way of referring to having that hardware acceleration...

To me this telemetry plugin could handle with "send diagnostics usage to apple", so I don't really care, I can willingly do without it.

Regard QE/CI I'am agree, they substantially adopt different acronym to indicate the same a bit improved feature.
So it's much more easy and handy call in Mac world QE/CI the GPU acceleration.
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Overall it's a good computer, but keep in mind that it is 8 years old and when you buy a $50-$100 laptop, you'll get what you paid for. The battery life is meh, and any kind of graphical work (gaming, video editing, big Photoshop/Illustrator projects...) is a bit too much for it. But, for any kind of basic school/office/internet stuff, you'll have no trouble. I try to only have a few things open at a time and I hardly notice any lag. I've only got 6GB of RAM but I'm about to get an SSD and some more RAM, you should do the same if you can.

One thing I would say, people often suggest using an old version of OS X on these slower computers. Don't bother with that. In my experience, anything from Mavericks to High Sierra runs just about the same.

A really big plus is if anything goes wrong, you can fix it for next to nothing. Broken screen? $50. Dead logic board? $40.

Good luck with your purchase, it really is a fantastic computer and I fully intend to use mine until the end of university (in grade 11 now).

beyond the upgradable RAM, SSD features, I add the always useful slim DVD RW, and the glossy white color that in combination with a retro rainbow apple sticker on the glowing apple lid make it look nicer.
 
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ASentientBot

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Just checking in with graphics progress on MacBook7,1 so far (TL;DR: very little)

NVDANV50HalTesla.kext : needed to change brightness & recognize GPU
Dependencies:
NVDAResmanTesla.kext
IONDRVSupport.kext
IOGraphicsFamily.kext

Summary: basically unusable, graphical glitches, very slow "re-drawing" of everything: only improvement over a fresh install is that the right monitor is shown in "about this Mac" and you can change brightness

Adding:
GeForceTesla.kext : some type of partial acceleration. Edit: framebuffer
Dependencies:
GeForceGA.bundle
Summary: similar to running it in Parallels, opaque menu bar and still a bit sluggish but generally usable (I made this post from there with only moderate frustration)

To-do:
GeForceTeslaGLDriver.bundle, GeForceTeslaVADriver.bundle : confirmed full acceleration, but panic within 10 seconds of login... why?

Edit: my mistake, I in fact did load the GeForceGA kext in my most recent test. Seems like it's associated with the framebuffer? So in summary:
NVDANV50HalTesla: recognize the GPU
GeForceTesla: framebuffer
GeForceTesla*Driver: QE/CI
 
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shuyama

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Yup, the MP3,1 and it will be a big deal once confirmed! It was discussed in a different thread here and I followed handheldgames's guide here using no other than dosdude1's awesome DXEInject, ROM dump and flash tools. We will know for sure this weekend when the nvme card discussed here is delivered.

I have a question. I use MacPro 3.1 by applying Mr. dosdude 1's APFS ROM Patch. Can I apply NVMe's ROM Patch to MacPro 3.1 ROM with APFS ROM Patch?
 

jackluke

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Just checking in with graphics progress on MacBook7,1 so far (TL;DR: very little)

NVDANV50HalTesla.kext : needed to change brightness & recognize GPU
Dependencies:
NVDAResmanTesla.kext
IONDRVSupport.kext
IOGraphicsFamily.kext

Summary: basically unusable, graphical glitches, very slow "re-drawing" of everything: only improvement over a fresh install is that the right monitor is shown in "about this Mac" and you can change brightness

Adding:
GeForceTesla.kext : some type of partial acceleration
Summary: similar to running it in Parallels, opaque menu bar and still a bit sluggish but generally usable (I made this post from there with only moderate frustration)

To-do:
GeForceGA.kext : supposedly a dependency of GeForceTesla, untested... what does it do?

GeForceTeslaGLDriver.bundle, GeForceTeslaVADriver.bundle : confirmed full acceleration, but panic within 10 seconds of login... why?

Agree, except I can't get the GL working even in Kpanic, about the slow "re-drawing" you can notice the exactly same behavior if you boot High Sierra holding shift key at boot in safe mode, seeing is believing. So QE/CI especially with Nvidia 320m is primary for an acceptable daily use.
 

nekton1

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The new dosdude1 Mojave patcher for MP3,1 is not working for me. I can create a USB boot stick OK but attempting to boot the 3,1 from it goes excruciatingly slowly for the last cm and ends at a solid progress bar after 2 hours and that progresses no further (uploaded file). Sorry, but there is something wrong with this patcher at least for MP3,1 with GTX 680 installed.
IMG_0469.JPG
 

ASentientBot

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Agree, except I can't get the GL working even in Kpanic, about the slow "re-drawing" you can notice the exactly behavior if you boot High Sierra holding shift key at boot in safe mode, seeing is believing. So QE/CI especially with Nvidia 320m is primary for an acceptable daily use.

If you have automatic login turned off, you can see there's full acceleration/transparency on the login screen. (It only seems to panic upon reaching the desktop (in which I've briefly seen transparent menu bar!) -- going to try another dyld log to see if frameworks are to blame.)

Also, see my edited post: GeForceGA is actually necessary for a working framebuffer
 

theone29

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The new dosdude1 Mojave patcher for MP3,1 is not working for me. I can create a USB boot stick OK but attempting to boot the 3,1 from it goes excruciatingly slowly for the last cm and ends at a solid progress bar after 2 hours and that progresses no further (uploaded file). Sorry, but there is something wrong with this patcher at least for MP3,1 with GTX 680 installed.
View attachment 769684

I'm in the same boat.
 
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