macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Toospiny]

Software acceleration?

Hi, I own an i5 2009 imac with Mojave installed. It really works very well. Thank you

But I've seen a problem and I don't know if it could be fixed:

The other day, I tried Google Stadia on Chrome and it was unplayable. The mouse was hopping. With smaller machines it didn't happen to me.

I did some research and saw that Chrome doesn't have GPU acceleration. I enclose capture.

Chrome: // gpu

I understand that since my mac does not support Metal, it is emulated via software, right?

Is there a solution to this? Other than changing the graphics card. Any patch? Updating Catalina?

Thanks a lot!!

 

[C_Thvndr]

Thank you for explaining this. I didn't realise that it was included. I'm looking at a low-power AMD (the WX5100 specifically) so I guess that would mean, with a bit of luck, that I could run Mojave on the 3,1.



Thanks for pointing to that thread Joe. I really appreciate it. I have posted a question there about the WX5100. I see the WX7100 seems to work so hopefully the little brother does too. Greg Gant seems to suggest it would work.

Hey Pullman, did you have any luck with the WX5100? I just got a 3,1 for a steal, and was considering the exact same card. Did you come across any issues with installation and getting Mojave running?

 

[borgo1971]

Mojave patcher should support newer Macs, like 16" MacBook Pro. Long life to Mojave!

 

[RK78]

Hi @avz
Sorry for the delay, but I have a lot of work at the moment and no time to come to this forum
So I come very quickly to answer you
As for the other files you mentioned that make up the full package content of the 2020-06 update, "EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg" and "FirmwareUpdate.pkg" are not needed because I don't think Apple will update the Firmware on our machines not supported for a long time.
The FullBundleUpdate.pkg file contains the installation of Safari 12.1.2 and MRT1.52 therefore not necessary either considering that we have made the update to Safari 14.0 or 14.0.1 and MRT is currently 1.72 updated automatically by the system.
The macOSBrain.pkg file contains only the binary "atomicupdatetool", it's a helper tool for the macOS Software Update mechanism.
SecureBoot.pkg file contains 11 Boot.efi files.

But that doesn't really matter anymore because here is the link of the full update package with the distribution file to modify:

https://updates.cdn-apple.com/2020/...ac-9924-6e5d7ce73963/SecUpd2020-006Mojave.dmg

Hi alphascorp, from everything I'm seeing in your post, looks like no need to run the full installer. Looked through the full installer with Pacifist to confirm, and I'm seeing everything you've noted. Have already run the 2020-006 package, and think that will do it for me. Don't think I'm missing out by not going back again with the full installer. Thanks.

 

[NickP0is0n]

Software acceleration?

Hi, I own an i5 2009 imac with Mojave installed. It really works very well. Thank you

But I've seen a problem and I don't know if it could be fixed:

The other day, I tried Google Stadia on Chrome and it was unplayable. The mouse was hopping. With smaller machines it didn't happen to me.

I did some research and saw that Chrome doesn't have GPU acceleration. I enclose capture.

Chrome: // gpu

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View attachment 1678599

I understand that since my mac does not support Metal, it is emulated via software, right?

Is there a solution to this? Other than changing the graphics card. Any patch? Updating Catalina?

Thanks a lot!!

Hello! It is not a problem of the OS itself. Google Chrome has a blacklist of GPU's, that may be unstable when using hardware acceleration. On all of those GPU's acceleration is disabled. To enable it anyway, you can go to chrome://flags and enable "Override software rendering list" (#ignore-gpu-blocklist). It will activate Chrome's hardware acceleration on blacklisted GPU's. Keep in mind, that you may suffer some graphical glitches, so if Chrome will become really glitchy, you should disable this flag.

 

[Toospiny]

Hello! It is not a problem of the OS itself. Google Chrome has a blacklist of GPU's, that may be unstable when using hardware acceleration. On all of those GPU's acceleration is disabled. To enable it anyway, you can go to chrome://flags and enable "Override software rendering list" (#ignore-gpu-blocklist). It will activate Chrome's hardware acceleration on blacklisted GPU's. Keep in mind, that you may suffer some graphical glitches, so if Chrome will become really glitchy, you should disable this flag.

Thanks @NickP0is0n, I tried what you tell me but Chrome is not able to render any screen

I think I'll stay that way until I can buy a new mac.

If someone tests what you say and cannot go back to the chrome screen to disable this, they should do it with the console, run chrome by putting --no-experiments

Cheers!

 

[borgo1971]

Hi to all. In the last time, I have often problems to update AppStore Apps, in both my computers: a fake 5,1 MacPro (early 2009 with Xeon 5680 cpu and Radeon RX580) and my early 2011 MacBook Pro (with faulty and disabled GPU, Dosdude patched), both with Mojave.
The problem is that AppStore notifies some updates, but if I try to install them, AppStore say it can't update because an error occurs. To install the update, I must remove the App, and reinstall it from zero. But sometimes I can reinstall immediately, and sometimes I must wait some minute because otherwise I get the same error I get updating.
Did someone experience the same issue? And did someone understand how avoid it?

 

[Dayo]

I have often problems to update AppStore Apps

Same issue on my cMP3,1 running DosDude Mojave.

See this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/thread.2237461/

 

[katbel]

Same issue on my cMP3,1 running DosDude Mojave.

See this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/thread.2237461/

The thread is tagged as solved but actually is not because we all still have issues. What I found that helps is to go to the app page in the App Store and click few times or to compress the app,-just in case- delete the original and re-download it again. What a pain in the neck is Apple since a while!!

 

[K two]

Thanks @NickP0is0n, I tried what you tell me but Chrome is not able to render any screen

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I think I'll stay that way until I can buy a new mac.

If someone tests what you say and cannot go back to the chrome screen to disable this, they should do it with the console, run chrome by putting --no-experiments

Cheers!

A lot of Unsupported Mac headaches can be prevented by avoiding Safari, Chrome and Apple Mail.

 

[K two]

Current Mojave is flawless on the Mini3,1, thanks to @dosdude1 and @jackluke. And the venerable favorite MenuMeters is back - https://member.ipmu.jp/yuji.tachikawa/MenuMetersElCapitan/zips/MenuMeters_latest.zip Also runs on Catalina and is still free.

BTW - the absolute most hassle-free method to apply these Supplemental and Security Updates is to install them with SilentKnight, here - https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/silentknight18.zip Then re-install the required patches from the re-booted USB patcher.

 

[K two]

Mojave patcher should support newer Macs, like 16" MacBook Pro. Long life to Mojave!

Or one could use this - https://macdaddy.io/install-disk-creator/ or better yet, this - http://dosdude1.com/apps/Mac OS X USB Drive Creator.zip

 

[maciak]

Hi,
Did anyone tryed APFS patcher on MacBook 4,1 already? I cannot find any info regarding that and I'm a bit afraid of just checking it on my own.

 

[avz]

Hi,
Did anyone tryed APFS patcher on MacBook 4,1 already? I cannot find any info regarding that and I'm a bit afraid of just checking it on my own.

As far as I know dosdude1's patchers don't support MacBook4,1, so it is safe to say the same about his APFS patcher.

 

[0403979]

Actually it is supported but you have to edit the app for the option to be shown. I've used it and it's working perfectly.

 

[K two]

Do I dare install both Security and Supplementary Update at the same time, knowing the last round of combined updates screwed my Mac to the point of clean install...?

View attachment 1663835 The absolute most hassle-free method to apply these Supplemental and Security Updates is to install them with SilentKnight, here - https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/silentknight18.zip Then re-install the required patches from the re-booted USB patcher.

The absolute most hassle-free method to apply these Supplemental and Security Updates is to install them with SilentKnight, here - https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/silentknight18.zip Then re-install the required patches from the re-booted USB patcher.

 

[K two]

Software acceleration?

Hi, I own an i5 2009 imac with Mojave installed. It really works very well. Thank you

But I've seen a problem and I don't know if it could be fixed:

The other day, I tried Google Stadia on Chrome and it was unplayable. The mouse was hopping. With smaller machines it didn't happen to me.

I did some research and saw that Chrome doesn't have GPU acceleration. I enclose capture.

Chrome: // gpu

View attachment 1678598

View attachment 1678599

I understand that since my mac does not support Metal, it is emulated via software, right?

Is there a solution to this? Other than changing the graphics card. Any patch? Updating Catalina?

Thanks a lot!!

Catalina runs sufficient with the HD4850, METAL mandates a different GPU.

 

[RK78]

K two: >>The absolute most hassle-free method to apply these Supplemental and Security Updates is to install them with SilentKnight, here - https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/silentknight18.zip Then re-install the required patches from the re-booted USB patcher.

Does this mean SilentKnight will be able to directly install a standalone SecUpd without needing to modify the distribution file, or will it only be able to install what is already available from SU on an APFS formatted volume, as per the usual caveats? Maybe some clarification on what you mean by "hassle-free?"

 

[K two]

K two: >>The absolute most hassle-free method to apply these Supplemental and Security Updates is to install them with SilentKnight, here - https://eclecticlightdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/silentknight18.zip Then re-install the required patches from the re-booted USB patcher.

Does this mean SilentKnight will be able to directly install a standalone SecUpd without needing to modify the distribution file, or will it only be able to install what is already available from SU on an APFS formatted volume, as per the usual caveats? Maybe some clarification on what you mean by "hassle-free?"

YES, just re-boot into Patcher USB and re-install the patches, here's more proof -

Absolutely, no hassle! Quit SilentKnight before RESTART. Enjoy.

 

[TheRV]

Here is the latest version of SilentKnight 1.15 from the official website (november update).
I use it since a while, but there is absolutely no way to install security updates, you can only force update XProtect , Gatekeeper, MRT and TCC. Could you explain how you are processing ?

 

[MTBnBeer]

I just installed MacOS Security Update 2020-007 on my 17" Early 2008 MacBookPro4,1 then rebooted from my Mohave Patcher USB drive and installed the Mojave Patcher post-install AND bkltpatch10.14.2 patches without any issues.

Painless once again.

 

[RK78]

K two >>"YES, just re-boot into Patcher USB and re-install the patches, here's more proof -"

For me, running security updates has largely been a headache. If SK for SecUpdates can truly be hassle free that would be a real game changer. Will wait for the 2020-007 full standalone installer and give SK a try.

Your link is to the 1.8, but there's a 1.15 available. Any reason to stick with the 1.8?

 

[Pralaya]

Where can I download the Sec Update 007 2020 for Mojave. Silent Knight doesn't work. Having HFS partition.

 

[K two]

K two >>"YES, just re-boot into Patcher USB and re-install the patches, here's more proof -"

For me, running security updates has largely been a headache. If SK for SecUpdates can truly be hassle free that would be a real game changer. Will wait for the 2020-007 full standalone installer and give SK a try.

Your link is to the 1.8, but there's a 1.15 available. Any reason to stick with the 1.8?

SK 1.8 is intel native and has worked perfectly for me on unsupported, unpatched ROM machines except in Catalina. Both HFS and APFS. High Sierra and Mojave without fail. Supplimental and Security updates included. Here's a HFS High SIerra update accomplished with SllentKnight v1.8 -

 

[RK78]

SK 1.8 is intel native and has worked perfectly for me on unsupported, unpatched ROM machines except in Catalina. Both HFS and APFS. High Sierra and Mojave without fail. Supplimental and Security updates included. Here's a HFS High SIerra update accomplished with SllentKnight v1.8 -

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Used SK 1.15 from the HFS+(HDD) volume, which updated Safari to the 14.0.2. But it didn't run the 2020-007 - not that I had high hopes that it would. So I'm supposing that it would be necessary, as usual, to boot to my APFS formatted volume (also HDD on external), in order to run the SecUpd, which clearly SK at the HFS+ volume wasn't able to see. Looks like it basically automates (for want of a better term) and runs whatever update is available normally. In that regard, while it was running I noticed that softwareupdated was running, as well as the native Mac installer application - what I would expect without SK.

One of my questions in my OP was whether SK would be able to run a standalone SecUpd full installer dmg, either from the HFS+ or APFS volume? You seemed to answer that question with an overall positive, but since SK appears to depend on the Mac native update/SU processes, I don't really understand how SK would be able to begin to access a SecUpdate standalone installer dmg (or package?), which would be sitting on the Desktop.

So back to that first question, already asked at https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...unsupported-macs-thread.2121473/post-29390944 which was, "Does this mean SilentKnight will be able to directly install a standalone SecUpd without needing to modify the distribution file, or will it only be able to install what is already available from SU on an APFS formatted volume, as per the usual caveats?"

In other words, it's nice to have all this automated, but wonder if it actually changes anything basic to the way updates are run?