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macOS 10.15 Catalina on Unsupported Macs

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Dalesrandy said:
Finally got my 2012 Macbook Pro running Catalina with a Raid0 configuration . Running into a few issues like every application seems to be extra laggy, I cannot use migration assistant, my photo library on my Time Machine won't allow me to drag and drop into my new photos library. The biggest issue is my external outputs are messing everything up. When I plug in the thunderbolt to HDMI the main display goes to a grey screen and restarts. It also won't allow me to use two external outputs anymore. If these are easy fixes let me know! If not will be returning to Mojave :(
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can you run some AmorphousDiskMark, set it to 5x 1gb file test, trying to see if you're Raid0 running properly. Here's my 2012 MBP Raid0 with latest Catalina 10.15.3, I've used Samsung Evo 500gb to compared with 2x Samsung 256gb (Raid0) setup. It runs pretty quick and i have no issues here.
raid0.png
 
Hi jackluke
If I put in a compatible card would it work then and can you recommend a card?
 
psu7276 said:
Thanks. I already routinely use Memory Clean 3.
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unzip the swupatch then place in your terminal enter your password when prompted then once the update starts to download unzip the catalinaswufix5amfi and place in your terminal and run once the update reaches 10% or more
[automerge]1584891952[/automerge]
Dalesrandy said:
Finally got my 2012 Macbook Pro running Catalina with a Raid0 configuration . Running into a few issues like every application seems to be extra laggy, I cannot use migration assistant, my photo library on my Time Machine won't allow me to drag and drop into my new photos library. The biggest issue is my external outputs are messing everything up. When I plug in the thunderbolt to HDMI the main display goes to a grey screen and restarts. It also won't allow me to use two external outputs anymore. If these are easy fixes let me know! If not will be returning to Mojave :(
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if you have any SSD's in your raid do you have trim enabled-for Photo's it might still be trying to sync with iCloud you could try holding the control-option key when opening photo's then try dragging placing photo's from your time machine
 

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Hi fellow home bound...
I have an iMac8.1 running ElCap. Ram is 6 gig with a 2 TB ssd
I am trying to move it to Catalina. I thought as a test I would install the patcher, build the USB bootable and install to another USB. And try things out before jumping in with both feet.
My problem is... I don't know what to expect in the process.
I run Patcher and it down downloads the installer and creates the USB without issue.
I have a dual drive USB dock that I am using. The installer drive is 1.5 TB. I know, more than is necessary. The target for installation is a 2 TB drive also in the dock.
Installation is where I don't know what to expect.
Things run along to a point and it reboots, but it reboots back to ssd with el cap.

I also have MacBook Pro 9.2 running Sierra. Same results. I know I can just upgrade it straight to Catalina. EFI has never been updated. How can I check the version of that?

Like I said, I don't know what to expect. I never see the text booter stuff to handle booting from APFS.

Also, will Catalina install over the top and migrate the existing apps and data?

Help


Dennis
 
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DWomack said:
Hi fellow home bound...
I have an iMac8.1 running ElCap. Ram is 6 gig with a 2 TB ssd
I am trying to move it to Catalina. I thought as a test I would install the patcher, build the USB bootable and install to another USB. And try things out before jumping in with both feet.
My problem is... I don't know what to expect in the process.
I run Patcher and it down downloads the installer and creates the USB without issue.
I have a dual drive USB dock that I am using. The installer drive is 1.5 TB. I know, more than is necessary. The target for installation is a 2 TB drive also in the dock.
Installation is where I don't know what to expect.
Things run along to a point and it reboots, but it reboots back to ssd with el cap.

I also have MacBook Pro 9.2 running Sierra. Same results. I know I can just upgrade it straight to Catalina. EFI has never been updated. How can I check the version of that?

Like I said, I don't know what to expect. I never see the text booter stuff to handle booting from APFS.

Also, will Catalina install over the top and migrate the existing apps and data?

Help


Dennis
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First off your iMac has to be able to boot APFS, and the ssd your trying to install macOS Catalina has to be formatted APFS and set as the start-up disk and if you applied the APFS patch it is normal to see the scrolling text so when you boot back into your Catalina Patcher usb click on the apple logo at the top and select the ssd your trying to install Catalina on reboot back into your patcher and try to install Catalina on the drive you selected to install Catalina on
 
Meelas said:
Hi jackluke
If I put in a compatible card would it work then and can you recommend a card?
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The AirPort Extreme Broadcom Wifi cards based on 4360 module will work on Catalina, the fact is not simple to find the correct Wifi card (or any other component) that fits correctly into a Mac due to apple proprietary pci-express connectors, chassis and circuitry shapes.

So for now you could use this web app that simply requires an internet browser to share files between your devices: https://www.sharedrop.io
 
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jackluke said:
The AirPort Extreme Broadcom Wifi cards based on 4360 module will work on Catalina, the fact is not simple to find the correct Wifi card (or any other component) that fits correctly into a Mac due to apple proprietary pci-express connectors, chassis and circuitry shapes.

So for now you could use this web app that simply requires an internet browser to share files between your devices: https://www.sharedrop.io
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Thanks, appreciated
 
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TimothyR734 said:
First off your iMac has to be able to boot APFS, and the ssd your trying to install macOS Catalina has to be formatted APFS and set as the start-up disk and if you applied the APFS patch it is normal to see the scrolling text so when you boot back into your Catalina Patcher usb click on the apple logo at the top and select the ssd your trying to install Catalina on reboot back into your patcher and try to install Catalina on the drive you selected to install Catalina on
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I am going to use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the ELCap installation on the ssd to USB hard drive. Then boot from the cone to verify it works. If that works then I'll try using the patched Catalina installer to over write the Ssd. This is going to take a while.

Am I going to be able to migrate the ELCap stuff to Catalina?


Dennis
 
jackluke said:
Till Mojave apple allowed some kind of "AirDrop legacy" that worked also on Atheros wifi cards, from Catalina they merged all the continuity features with a kind of AirDrop enhanced, and only certain recent Broadcom Wifi cards patching the AirPort Brcm4360 Wifi driver can work.
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Is this based on some kind of discovery or is it just a theory?
 
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0403979 said:
Is this based on some kind of discovery or is it just a theory?
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Apple to the machines officially supported till 10.11 allowed a basic wireless AirDrop to almost all their Wifi cards, while to those supported till 10.13 AirDrop can be "continuity patched" to wireless sharing files also with iOS devices.

HighSierra and Mojave are very similar, consider that Mojave can be installed in HFS without issues.

Till 10.14 this command: "defaults write com.apple.NetworkBrowser BrowseAllInterfaces 1"
Worked to enable AirDrop over ethernet in Finder, but from Catalina it has no effect, the result is just a non-working AirDrop icon in Finder.

AirDrop is an app embedded in OSX Finder.app located here: /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Applications/AirDrop.app
and here:
/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/Base.lproj/

it uses "these drivers": /System/Library/Extensions/IO80211Family.kext/Contents/Plugins/

it relies on the /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Sharing.framework
(attached an hex example)
sharing framework airdrop.png

but from Catalina they added also this other SharingXPCServices.framework

Already tried to use previous Mojave sharing framework but Finder in Catalina crashes.

In few words to have AirDrop in Catalina Finder you need a machine officially supported till HighSierra, that already have a compatible Broadcom Wifi card, patching the driver card this submenu that is related to continuity features is showed:
Airdrop continuity.jpeg


This can be achieved by binary patching the AirPortBrcm4360.kext (that is the minimal Broadcom group officially supported by Catalina) , but only the machines supported till HighSierra will work due to Broadcom enhanced wifi hardware that they embed.
 
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jackluke said:
Apple to the machines officially supported till 10.11 allowed a basic wireless AirDrop to almost all their Wifi cards, while to those supported till 10.13 AirDrop can be "continuity patched" to wireless sharing files also with iOS devices.

HighSierra and Mojave are very similar, consider that Mojave can be installed in HFS without issues.

Till 10.14 this command: "defaults write com.apple.NetworkBrowser BrowseAllInterfaces 1"
Worked to enable AirDrop over ethernet in Finder, but from Catalina it has no effect, the result is just a non-working AirDrop icon in Finder.

AirDrop is an app embedded in OSX Finder.app located here: /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Applications/AirDrop.app
and here:
/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/Base.lproj/

it uses "these drivers": /System/Library/Extensions/IO80211Family.kext/Contents/Plugins/

it relies on the /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Sharing.framework
(attached an hex example)
View attachment 900608
but from Catalina they added also this other SharingXPCServices.framework

Already tried to use previous Mojave sharing framework but Finder in Catalina crashes.

In few words to have AirDrop in Catalina Finder you need a machine officially supported till HighSierra, that already have a compatible Broadcom Wifi card, patching the driver card this submenu that is related to continuity features is showed:
View attachment 900607

This can be achieved by binary patching the AirPortBrcm4360.kext (that is the minimal Broadcom group officially supported by Catalina) , but only the machines supported till HighSierra will work due to Broadcom enhanced wifi hardware that they embed.
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Thank you for that in-depth analysis.
 
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DWomack said:
I am going to use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the ELCap installation on the ssd to USB hard drive. Then boot from the cone to verify it works. If that works then I'll try using the patched Catalina installer to over write the Ssd. This is going to take a while.

Am I going to be able to migrate the ELCap stuff to Catalina?


Dennis
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So on this iMac8.1 running ELCap I cloned it to USB and have booted from it and verified things are working.

So, what do I do now? Boot from the patched installer disk and either convert existing SSD to APFS and install over the top or format it as APFS and clean install?

Measure twice and cut once.


Dennis
 
Hello
I have Catalina working on a macbook from mid 2009. I have installed it through dosdude patch
When I open the imovie application, it opens correctly but when trying to create a new project or movie, a crash occurs closing the application.
the file system is AFPS.
the graphics card is nvidia geforce 9400m.
Is there any solution for this?
thanks.


Process: iMovie [2925]
Path: /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
Identifier: com.apple.iMovieApp
Version: 10.1.14 (358560)
Build Info: iMovieX-35856000076000000~6 (15B18c)
App Item ID: 408981434
App External ID: 833677695
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: iMovie [2925]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2020-03-23 19:13:11.279 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.3 (19D76)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 3DDA3DD3-1515-426B-A157-CD80DD99803B


Time Awake Since Boot: 7900 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000010
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process: exc handler [2925]

VM Regions Near 0x10:
-->
__TEXT 000000010b96d000-000000010bac4000 [ 1372K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
.
.
.
.
 
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Candi Vega said:
Hello
I have Catalina working on a macbook from mid 2009. I have installed it through dosdude patch
When I open the imovie application, it opens correctly but when trying to create a new project or movie, a crash occurs closing the application.
the file system is AFPS.
the graphics card is nvidia geforce 9400m.
Is there any solution for this?
thanks.


Process: iMovie [2925]
Path: /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
Identifier: com.apple.iMovieApp
Version: 10.1.14 (358560)
Build Info: iMovieX-35856000076000000~6 (15B18c)
App Item ID: 408981434
App External ID: 833677695
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: iMovie [2925]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2020-03-23 19:13:11.279 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.3 (19D76)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 3DDA3DD3-1515-426B-A157-CD80DD99803B


Time Awake Since Boot: 7900 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000010
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process: exc handler [2925]

VM Regions Near 0x10:
-->
__TEXT 000000010b96d000-000000010bac4000 [ 1372K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
.
.
.
.
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You need to find a copy of 10.1.12 since every subsequent version uses Metal.
 
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Candi Vega said:
Hello
I have Catalina working on a macbook from mid 2009. I have installed it through dosdude patch
When I open the imovie application, it opens correctly but when trying to create a new project or movie, a crash occurs closing the application.
the file system is AFPS.
the graphics card is nvidia geforce 9400m.
Is there any solution for this?
thanks.


Process: iMovie [2925]
Path: /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
Identifier: com.apple.iMovieApp
Version: 10.1.14 (358560)
Build Info: iMovieX-35856000076000000~6 (15B18c)
App Item ID: 408981434
App External ID: 833677695
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: iMovie [2925]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2020-03-23 19:13:11.279 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.3 (19D76)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 3DDA3DD3-1515-426B-A157-CD80DD99803B


Time Awake Since Boot: 7900 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000010
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process: exc handler [2925]

VM Regions Near 0x10:
-->
__TEXT 000000010b96d000-000000010bac4000 [ 1372K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/iMovie.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie
.
.
.
.
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Here is a link posted by jackluke https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...3772/page-251?post=27935151#post-27935151post 6261
 
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DWomack said:
So on this iMac8.1 running ELCap I cloned it to USB and have booted from it and verified things are working.

So, what do I do now? Boot from the patched installer disk and either convert existing SSD to APFS and install over the top or format it as APFS and clean install?

Measure twice and cut once.


Dennis
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Got it working! Installed over existing ELCap installation after converting the HFS+ to APFS on the 2TB SSD. Booted OK. Seemed to get stuck going into my normal non admin acct. I powered off and rebooted. This time I selected my admin account. Didn't take very long to get in and setup the new features not in ELCap. Used disk utility to check SSD. It came back clean.

Rebooted and tried to re enter my normal account It stuck again with with what I call an animated navel. This time I just walked away and let it cook. The SSD has 1.5 TB of stuff on it, so I guess it was doing a lot of house keeping.

The chime at boot used to be loud now it is very muted.

I was pushed into this because Mail in ELCap doesn't support the newer ssl protocols, and the old ones are going away.

Thank you to everyone. Much appreciated.


Dennis
 
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DWomack said:
Got it working! Installed over existing ELCap installation after converting the HFS+ to APFS on the 2TB SSD. Booted OK. Seemed to get stuck going into my normal non admin acct. I powered off and rebooted. This time I selected my admin account. Didn't take very long to get in and setup the new features not in ELCap. Used disk utility to check SSD. It came back clean.

Rebooted and tried to re enter my normal account It stuck again with with what I call an animated navel. This time I just walked away and let it cook. The SSD has 1.5 TB of stuff on it, so I guess it was doing a lot of house keeping.

The chime at boot used to be loud now it is very muted.

I was pushed into this because Mail in ELCap doesn't support the newer ssl protocols, and the old ones are going away.

Thank you to everyone. Much appreciated.


Dennis
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Bravo! That is the right style to get along with our old machines, which are still well supported by Dosdude and community.
 
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