macOS 11 Big Sur on Unsupported Macs Thread

[iphone2g&3gfan]

my apologies. That one isn't updated and doesn't allow custom URLs. Try https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts/blob/main/installinstallmacos.py
run it as:

python3 installinstallmacos.py --catalogurl https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...n-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog

 

[Macbookprodude]

how do you use this

Tried apple script - it doesn't work.

 

[nikey22]

Seeing as how MacBook Pro 2013 and later is supported, this suggests that Nvidia based GPUs should continue to see some level of driver code support in the new OS. The MBP 11,3 uses a GT750M dGPU and this can be extrapolated to work in the iMac.

 

[Adamscomputerrepair]

I created a basic patch which seems to get a copy of the OS installed.
View attachment 926159

My steps (briefly) were:
- Disable Library Validation and SIP
- launchctl setenv DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES $PWD/Hax.dylib
- Open and click through the installer app

This is all that's necessary for an "install to this machine" outcome. However, it currently does not boot... will report back if I figure anything out.

For anyone else who only has an unsupported machine and wants to test, here are the files! There are definitely alternatives like using OpenCore, cloning from a supported machine, etc. But thought I'd share this anyways.

I have the installer .pkg and your patcher. How do I make it all bootable? I've been doing unsupported mac stuff since 2014. I have a 2010 pro I'm going to try and get up and running.


EDIT: I guess what I mean is do I disable SIP from my main drive? Also how do I disable Library Validation? Also when I launch that piece of code, nothing happens. So many questions, plenty of time considering the beta has been out about 6 hours now lol.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Any idea if BootCamp will work with their custom silicon mac?

Sorry, Bootcamp may be no more and will not work on the new improved PowerPC ARM Macs.

 

[eric89074]

Something else is stopping it from working - check the plist I’d supported machines.
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so does it work on non-retina 2012 ?

It looks like pixelmongalaxy is using a 2012 non retina.

 

[macsba]

I'm in the process of installing macOS Big Sur on an external drive. I used an iMac 2017 to download the beta.

 

[Macbookprodude]

I’m betting almost anything that Windows on ARM will work on these Macs. They VM’d Linux (God only knows why), so I assume they’ll either have a solution (like a Rosetta for .exe files), or a WOA bootcamp. If not, we got it running on a Raspberry Pi 4. How much harder could an ARM Mac be?

It will be like PowerPC 1 days.. Virtual PC. Since, ARM on windows is non-existent now.

 

[Barry K. Nathan]

Since, ARM on windows is non-existent now.

This is incorrect. In fact, Microsoft even has documentation for Windows on ARM on their website.

 

[nandor690]

I'm in the process of installing macOS Big Sur on an external drive. I used an iMac 2017 to download the beta.

iv been trying to get this developer profile to work but the beta won't show up in updates

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

my 2006 iMac has 1 tb ssd and 4 ram I put more work in it then your 2013 plus its better 1 tb
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they both have AMD graphics. my 2006 has a radeon x1600 and my 2007 has a radeon 2600 pro

That sounds like great specs for an 2006 iMac and a 1TB SSD. Which is great for storing large documents and other types of files.

 

[Macbookprodude]

so do you personally have the big sur installer?

i am currently downloading it in my PowerBookG4 and will copy it to USB - my 2015 MacBook Pro is not with me currently.

 

[sw1fty]

Great, so the moment macOS finally gets a design change and I'm super hyped to try it out, I find out that my 27 inch Late 2013 iMac has been ruled out from the fun, amazing.

 

[tectxer22]

Someone should make this into a discord thread it would make everyones life a little easier ?

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

I wonder how this will run on my 2015 MacBook Pro ?

It will probably run and look great on a 2015 MacBook Pro

 

[MisterAndrew]

This is incorrect. In fact, Microsoft even has documentation for Windows on ARM on their website.

Thanks for the link. Yes, Windows 10 runs on ARM PCs, like Microsoft's Surface Pro X, so it should run fine on Apple Silicon based Macs. So those who Boot Camp should have nothing to fear. The Boot Camp utility is still present in Big Sur.

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[Barry K. Nathan]

Thanks for the link. Yes, Windows 10 runs on ARM PCs, like Microsoft's Surface Pro X, so it should run fine on Apple Silicon based Macs. So those who Boot Camp should have nothing to fear. The Boot Camp utility is still present in Big Sur.

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Well, the Boot Camp utility will remain for Intel-based Macs, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Since Apple is moving to their own GPUs, they would need to make Windows GPU drivers for Boot Camp -- in the past they were just able to use Intel/AMD/Nvidia's drivers. So there is certainly plenty for Boot Camp users to fear, but I guess I wouldn't completely rule it out.

 

[avz]

Great, the unsupported threads are always fun to follow, glad that enthusiasm is still alive and well. So far, my Mid 2012 MacBookPro9,2 is very safe, will see if my Late 2008 unibody MacBook have a chance to run accelerated 11.0.

 

[maxsp97]

iv been trying to get this developer profile to work but the beta won't show up in updates

Make sure your SIP disable.

 

[oldmacs]

So those who Boot Camp should have nothing to fear.

The whole reason people run bootcamp is to run Windows applications and nearly all Windows Applications are not written for Intel... so it makes bootcamp nearly pointless.

 

[tennisproha]

As I posted elsewhere, I'm quite upset about this. I have a 2012 quad mini that I'm planning on keeping for a while. It's really in poor taste for Apple to drop support with Catalina. I would've been okay with this if they'd ended support on Big Sur. My mini is connected to a Thunderbolt Display so I'm gonna use it as a second mac in the future.

Hopefully we can get Big Sur on it. Thanks @dosdude1 and everyone else for working on making this possible. I appreciate y'all. I'm not familiar with working on unsupported macs so it would be nice if it isn't a complete pain to setup properly.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Thanks for the link. Yes, Windows 10 runs on ARM PCs, like Microsoft's Surface Pro X, so it should run fine on Apple Silicon based Macs. So those who Boot Camp should have nothing to fear. The Boot Camp utility is still present in Big Sur.

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Apple silicon - just call it PowerPC v.2 ARM Macs. Silicon sounds lame. Think different 2 !

 

[ASentientBot]

Hey! I figured out kext loading and got the nVidia Tesla framebuffer (including brightness and sleep) working. The annoying part is it doesn't work in single-user mode since kmutil has to talk to some daemon...

sudo mount -uw /
# copy in the kexts as usual, unchanged from Catalina
chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions
chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions
sudo kmutil install --update-all # other than this command, it's basically the same
sudo kcditto

Now time to work on real acceleration.

 

[TimothyR734]

Someone should make this into a discord thread it would make everyones life a little easier ?

We are on discord as well

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

We are on discord as well

When you get a chance can you please post a link to the discord server?
Thanks,
Payne