macOS 12 Monterey on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Heindijs]

Oh sweet! I mean I found the work around, but having to not do it would be ideal for sure.

There's a workaround? I didn't know about that, could you show me a link?

 

[ChrisOSX]

There's a workaround? I didn't know about that, could you show me a link?

Yes and no, depending on which issue I was talking about. I answered it on my last post. It was pending mod review for probably linking to the docs. but anyways.

• Right click box was solved by the Beta Blur
• Mouse hover over finder was fixed as well. I did however leave reduce transparency on, but works without.

Looks like for the others we'll have to wait till it drops.

 

[th0masp]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-12-monterey-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2299557/ 👀

I checked that initially but I don't think it answers my question about the experience with that setup. I can see that e.g. the GPU HD3000 is listed as compatible here: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/108 Whereas the FAQ you link to only mentions HD4000.

Who knows how much else may have changed by now. Hence my question.

 

[K two]

I checked that initially but I don't think it answers my question about the experience with that setup. I can see that e.g. the GPU HD3000 is listed as compatible here: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/108 Whereas the FAQ you link to only mentions HD4000.

Who knows how much else may have changed by now. Hence my question.

Searched HD3000 using the tiny magnifier at the top right hand corner of this page - try that?

 

[Adrenn34]

Hi Everyone ! I hope you are healthy. Recently, I receive an old but clean IMAC 27 mid 2011. It's a A1312 Model. So I try to polish it for a gift to my girlfriend I change the HDD to an Crucial MX500 SSD and the RAM to a (2x8) 16GB Crucial too. I try to install macOS Monterey and the launch is good. BUT after starting and installing the root volume patching, to patchs : 1) Graphics : AMD TeraScale 2, 2) Graphics : Intel Sandy bridge, 3) Networking : Legacy Wireless. My computer boot and boot and boot and... Like a infinity loop. May are you some ideas to install the patch without the boot loop ? thanks you my friends and be care of your family and you !

 

[Jack Neill]

Hi Everyone ! I hope you are healthy. Recently, I receive an old but clean IMAC 27 mid 2011. It's a A1312 Model. So I try to polish it for a gift to my girlfriend I change the HDD to an Crucial MX500 SSD and the RAM to a (2x8) 16GB Crucial too. I try to install macOS Monterey and the launch is good. BUT after starting and installing the root volume patching, to patchs : 1) Graphics : AMD TeraScale 2, 2) Graphics : Intel Sandy bridge, 3) Networking : Legacy Wireless. My computer boot and boot and boot and... Like a infinity loop. May are you some ideas to install the patch without the boot loop ? thanks you my friends and be care of your family and you !

If you can't get it working, I found that Catalina and OCLP worked really well on my 2011 27". I have 32Gb of Ram in mine tho.

 

[Ausdauersportler]

Hi Everyone ! I hope you are healthy. Recently, I receive an old but clean IMAC 27 mid 2011. It's a A1312 Model. So I try to polish it for a gift to my girlfriend I change the HDD to an Crucial MX500 SSD and the RAM to a (2x8) 16GB Crucial too. I try to install macOS Monterey and the launch is good. BUT after starting and installing the root volume patching, to patchs : 1) Graphics : AMD TeraScale 2, 2) Graphics : Intel Sandy bridge, 3) Networking : Legacy Wireless. My computer boot and boot and boot and... Like a infinity loop. May are you some ideas to install the patch without the boot loop ? thanks you my friends and be care of your family and you !

The best you can do is changing the GPU with a metal one and possible adding a BCM94360XX BT/WiFi card. This makes the system fully compatible with Monterey and you would not need any patches. You do not really need the most expensive and GPU you can find on the list...every metal card you put in is better than the existing one.

 

[Adrenn34]

The best you can do is changing the GPU with a metal one and possible adding a BCM94360XX BT/WiFi card. This makes the system fully compatible with Monterey and you would not need any patches. You do not really need the most expensive and GPU you can find on the list...every metal card you put in is better than the existing one.

Hi, thanks you for your answer. ! After another clean install, this Imac work "fine". It is the root volume patch which broke this computer, I don't know why yet. Two problems remain: the first is the artifacts when watching videos (youtube or netflix) and the second is the deactivation of the wifi chip (which does not bother me because I use wired) For changing the GPU, which is the best for you to this computer ? There are so many version possible ^^. I don't have any equipment to welding :/ Thanks you

 

[Adrenn34]

If you can't get it working, I found that Catalina and OCLP worked really well on my 2011 27". I have 32Gb of Ram in mine tho.

Hello, thanks you to your answer, maybe If the computer didn't work, I will go back to another version. But I prefer to work and fine the solution I will check it

 

[TigerA]

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[TigerA]

Hi, thanks you for your answer. ! After another clean install, this Imac work "fine". It is the root volume patch which broke this computer, I don't know why yet. Two problems remain: the first is the artifacts when watching videos (youtube or netflix) and the second is the deactivation of the wifi chip (which does not bother me because I use wired) For changing the GPU, which is the best for you to this computer ? There are so many version possible ^^. I don't have any equipment to welding :/ Thanks you

Did you apply the "Post Install Patch" in the end? If you still have issue applying the patch (your wifi is still not working, meaning the patch has not been applied), you can try the safe mode by holding the left <Shift> key and click Monterey icon at OCLP boot pick screen. Then try to install the patch in the safe mode (I vaguely remember I read somewhere about this, but could be wrong 😅).
As for the metal supported GPU, I'd go with M5100: which is still relatively cheap to buy and does not require any heatsink modification. But the configuration of this card is a big challenge for a newbie though. It is an AMD card which does not require patch for Monterey. Once you upgrade the wifi card as well, which may require some soldering, you will not need to apply the Post-Install patch.

 

[Adrenn34]

Did you apply the "Post Install Patch" in the end? If you still have issue applying the patch (your wifi is still not working, meaning the patch has not been applied), you can try the safe mode by holding the left <Shift> key and click Monterey icon at OCLP boot pick screen. Then try to install the patch in the safe mode (I vaguely remember I read somewhere about this, but could be wrong 😅).
As for the metal supported GPU, I'd go with M5100: which is still relatively cheap to buy and does not require any heatsink modification. But the configuration of this card is a big challenge for a newbie though. It is an AMD card which does not require patch for Monterey. Once you upgrade the wifi card as well, which may require some soldering, you will not need to apply the Post-Install patch.

Hello , Yes, when I apply the post install patch, and I reboot it, it is reboot indefinitely

 

[Heindijs]

Yes and no, depending on which issue I was talking about. I answered it on my last post. It was pending mod review for probably linking to the docs. but anyways.

• Right click box was solved by the Beta Blur
• Mouse hover over finder was fixed as well. I did however leave reduce transparency on, but works without.

Looks like for the others we'll have to wait till it drops.

Ah, like that. Well, you can always download the nightly version of course. And I went ahead and tried it out on an early 2009 iMac and there seem to be no problems.

The sliders function perfectly, there are no glitches with the mouse cursor either. Transparency works fully
The only problem remaining is the fact that I still can't press the 'done' button when editing a widget.

 

[TimmuJapan]

Hello, thanks you to your answer, maybe If the computer didn't work, I will go back to another version. But I prefer to work and fine the solution I will check it

Here’s the thing: if you go with Monterey, this operating system will not reach maturity until the end of this year. So every time there is a major version update, it may break your system, until the wonderful OCLP people tweak the settings. Monterey can even be buggy on supported macs until later in the year.

If this is a machine that you want to experiment with, go for it and have fun with the trouble shooting (you and your gf can romantically trouble shoot together😂!), and everyone will appreciate the reports here…. but if this is a present for someone, it is probably a lot safer to start with Big Sur or Catalina and upgrade to Monterey at the end of the year. That will give your girlfriend a more stable system. Every time there is a major version update of Monterey, you may have to do trouble shooting on this machine.

Edit: or if you go with Monterey, just be really careful about updating, and point your girlfriend in the direction of the opencore legacy patcher website for some detailed study.

 

[Heindijs]

Here’s the thing: if you go with Monterey, this operating system will not reach maturity until the end of this year. So every time there is a major version update, it may break your system, until the wonderful OCLP people tweak the settings. Monterey can even be buggy on supported macs until later in the year.

If this is a machine that you want to experiment with, go for it and have fun with the trouble shooting (you and your gf can romantically trouble shoot together😂!), and everyone will appreciate the reports here…. but if this is a present for someone, it is probably a lot safer to start with Big Sur or Catalina and upgrade to Monterey at the end of the year. That will give your girlfriend a more stable system. Every time there is a major version update of Monterey, you may have to do trouble shooting on this machine.

Edit: or if you go with Monterey, just be really careful about updating, and point your girlfriend in the direction of the opencore legacy patcher website for some detailed study.

To add to that, it could even be the case that Apple never decides to fix a bug before moving to their next release, or even leave the OS on a less than stable final release. To this day Catalina has issues with sleep mode on many different Macs, especially ones with fusion drives. Fixed in Big Sur of course, and it never was a problem in Mojave

 

[ChrisOSX]

Ah, like that. Well, you can always download the nightly version of course. And I went ahead and tried it out on an early 2009 iMac and there seem to be no problems. View attachment 1962110
There sliders function perfectly, there are no glitches with the mouse cursor either. Transparency works fully
The only problem remaining is the fact that I still can't press the 'done' button when editing a widget.

I've never been one to mess to much with nightly builds, esp on my main machine, but seeing how this has been super stable, I might give it a shot.

Is there a main page for the nightly builds? Is it just the TUI? or GUI app?

Side note, I don't seem to have that issue with the widget done button lol

 

[Heindijs]

I've never been one to mess to much with nightly builds, esp on my main machine, but seeing how this has been super stable, I might give it a shot.

Is there a main page for the nightly builds? Is it just the TUI? or GUI app?

Side note, I don't seem to have that issue with the widget done button lol

Here you go.
I assumed that that widget issue had something to do with non-Metal gpus, but maybe it’s something else. I also can’t even use tab to highlight the done button like how the workaround should work so that’s also odd.

 

[amaze1499]

Here you go.
I assumed that that widget issue had something to do with non-Metal gpus, but maybe it’s something else. I also can’t even use tab to highlight the done button like how the workaround should work so that’s also odd.

Noticing a few more graphical issues. Nothing major but slight annoyances.

Sliders are off in control center
View attachment 1960640

Right clicking anything in the dock leaves a box under the menu
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Icons missing in random settings areas like Accessibility
View attachment 1960641

Nothing major, but maybe somebody has had something similar and fixed somehow? Performance wise 100% flawless (knocks on wood) so far.

These went away in my case after I repatched with 0.4.3n. Thanks!

Edit: They came back after another reboot. 🤪 (By graphical glitches I mean user icons on the login screen are not or only partially shown. Nothing major.)

 

[amaze1499]

Can someone point me in the right direction: Ever since Monterey Beta, this machine only received full size OTA updates instead of offering the incremental ones. What would I have to do, in order to get the smaller updates?

 

[ChrisOSX]

Here you go.
I assumed that that widget issue had something to do with non-Metal gpus, but maybe it’s something else. I also can’t even use tab to highlight the done button like how the workaround should work so that’s also odd.

Weird as mine is a mid 2010. Pretty far from metal I think lol

These went away in my case after I repatched with 0.4.3n. Thanks!

Edit: They came back after another reboot. 🤪

I'm going to give it a go and report back. I've had a pretty stable machine so far. Reboots are always fun anxiety though 🥲


UPDATE:
Happy to have my Backlight back. Lab Tick was ok, but there was lag/glitches with it at times.
CC Sliders are a go, along with System Preference icons.
Log in image is fine.

Might have to leave Beta Blur on as that was my fix for the box under the contextual menu when you right click something in the dock.

Temp might have increased? Could be me stressing it, by stressing I mean having 6 safari tabs open, and Finder
Other than that, stable for me 👍

 

[Heindijs]

These went away in my case after I repatched with 0.4.3n. Thanks!

Edit: They came back after another reboot. 🤪 (By graphical glitches I mean user icons on the login screen are not or only partially shown. Nothing major.)

That could be the case if you selected a memoji as icon. Seems like they also don’t work on the iMac I tested it on. Regular images work fine for me

 

[makra]

Can someone point me in the right direction: Ever since Monterey Beta, this machine only received full size OTA updates instead of offering the incremental ones. What would I have to do, in order to get the smaller updates?

Get a newer machine... The post-install patches for HD4000 require SIP to be disabled. Therefore we don't get delta updates.

 

[TigerA]

Can someone point me in the right direction: Ever since Monterey Beta, this machine only received full size OTA updates instead of offering the incremental ones. What would I have to do, in order to get the smaller updates?

run OCLP and uninstall the Post-Install Root Patch. Connect your Mac with an Ethernet cable if your wifi also needed the patch, restart the mac, .....

 

[webg3]

Get a newer machine... The post-install patches for HD4000 require SIP to be disabled. Therefore we don't get delta updates.

it's not because the SIP is disabled, but because of the snapshot created to run the HD4000 driver, if you install a previous version of the system and don't install the patch, go to system updates, and get the Delta update, then you can apply the patch.

 

[amaze1499]

it's not because the SIP is disabled, but because of the snapshot created to run the HD4000 driver, if you install a previous version of the system and don't install the patch, go to system updates, and get the Delta update, then you can apply the patch.

Perfect. This worked like charme. Update done. 21E5212f