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macOS 12 Monterey on Unsupported Macs Thread

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macOS Beta profile installed, so now I'm attempting to download and install 12.3 Beta 3 🤞

Will update with progress.

UPDATE:
Updated and booted fine. Seemed like it got stuck on the Apple logo installer screen on reboot, but I let it work. Took me through part of the setup assistant (sluggish). Home Screen, built OCLP, applied and did root patches.

Working fine so far.
 
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OKonnel said:
With OCLP 0.4.3 Night Monterey 12.2 works great in my iMac 27-inch late 2013 (see my Signature). Unfortunately, due to Photoshop 2022 not seeing OpenCL drivers, not enabling nVidia GTX 780M card (Kepler series), and disabling many important features, for my work I still use Catalina on 2TB internal SSD. So, I keep and boot Monterey 12.2 from the internal 128GB Apple SSD (formerly Fusion Drive) for testing only.
Of course, friends, I applied the Post Install Patch; but not only that, since I have personally tried to make changes to the macOS 12.2 System, but to no avail.
Note 1: I have inserted Kext and Framework taken from various versions of Catalina and made other attempts; obviously recreating the disk image each time with Montery and redo it boot.
Note 2: Actually, even AirPlay doesn't work with Monterey in iMac14,2 like mine; but this problem is solved very well by purchasing and using AirServer or Reflector which also have more features than AirPlay.
Finally: I really hope the best OCLP's Developers fix this nasty issue with OpenCL, so that I can install macOS Monterey on the main disk as well and use it for my work.
I just found that I cannot put the problem in Github as a third party application is involved in this case.
We hope that Khronokernel, Ausdauersportler, ASentientBot and other good developers read this post.
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I think it's important to edit my old post in light of my further insights.
So, I later read that Apple is deprecating OpenCL technology in favor of the new Metal technology. Comparing the behavior of Photoshop, in fact, in Catalina and Monterey, I see that even in Catalina various things of Photoshop 2022 do not work, even if in Catalina the OpenCLs are recognized by PS Sniffer and Photoshop, so activate all the hardware acceleration options. Note: Be aware that Adobe Lightroom, in Monterey, actually recognizes all hardware acceleration and works fine.
I noticed another Monterey advantage that is making me definitely prefer Monterey to Catalina, in my 27-inch iMac with a late 2013 i7 CPU and nVidia GTX 780M. If with Preview.app I open many photos taken with my iPhone XS (in heic format) or if I open a large *dynamic* images .heic from System/Library/Desktop Pictures/, with Monterey the images open without artifacts while Catalina displays some oblique black lines on the sides of pictures and photos.
 
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After the ongoing battle since release, I've given up and gone back to Big Sur. I was suffering from regular full system crashes which a manual reboot would fix but happening multiple times a day. But then 2 days ago, my Mac just completely gave up, couldn't reboot, wouldn't load up and so I'm done with the annoyance of it. Peace out
 
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thatguywill said:
After the ongoing battle since release, I've given up and gone back to Big Sur. I was suffering from regular full system crashes which a manual reboot would fix but happening multiple times a day. But then 2 days ago, my Mac just completely gave up, couldn't reboot, wouldn't load up and so I'm done with the annoyance of it. Peace out
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I have the same model as you and have been using Monterey daily since almost 3 months ago without any problems at all...

You must be doing something wrong....
 
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thatguywill said:
After the ongoing battle since release, I've given up and gone back to Big Sur. I was suffering from regular full system crashes which a manual reboot would fix but happening multiple times a day. But then 2 days ago, my Mac just completely gave up, couldn't reboot, wouldn't load up and so I'm done with the annoyance of it. Peace out
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Which reboot / boot picker screen were you seeing?

When I did mine initially, I didn't opt-start from the usb, so it tried booting but failed on the ? drive icon. Opt-start brought me to the USB boot picker when showed my High Sierra and Monterey drives.

I followed the steps to enable boot from internal drive, booted through the super slow start-up assistant and then applied the root patch.

I can understand the annoyance, but this does come with the territory of installing software on unsupported devices.
 
anyone have a solution to get the card reader working again using MBP 8,1 with GitHub build OCLP and 12.3 beta
going to update to 12.3B4 here shortly :)

thanks
 
Jumping to 12.3 Beta 4 shortly. Why does an incremental update have to be 11.26GB? Not even a full version 😂

Update:
Smooth install as last time.
 
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ChrisOSX said:
Jumping to 12.3 Beta 4 shortly. Why does an incremental update have to be 11.26GB? Not even a full version 😂
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webg3 said:
it's not because the SIP is disabled, but because of the snapshot created to run the HD4000 driver, if you install a previous version of the system and don't install the patch, go to system updates, and get the Delta update, then you can apply the patch.
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Tockman said:
It's not an incremental one in any case. If your root is patched just forget about incrementals.
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Going from 12.3 Beta 3 to 12.3 Beta 4 should be an incremental update. My point being it shouldn't be that large in comparison to say 12.3 to 12.4, or 12.3 to 13.
 
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I'm realizing that Monterey 12.2.1 is now preferable to Catalina and that my 27-inch late 2013 iMac works much better with Monterey. (I7 CPU and nVidia GTX 780M Kepler series GPU and therefore in need of Post Install Patch).
As I said in another post, for example, with Monterey graphic, photographic and even dynamic "heic" files open with Preview app without the defects with which Preview app opens them in Catalina or Big Sur.
In my iMac 14.2 AirPlay doesn't work (yet) and Khronokernel elaborated on this in a very comprehensive post. But it matters little to me: both because I never use AirPlay on my iMac and because I satisfied my need completeness (nerd) by purchasing "Reflector" and "AirServer" which are better than each other and provide more complete functionality. of AirPlay (see the comparisons on their WEB sites).
I am keeping Monterey on the internal Apple SSD which was from Fusion Driver, while on 2TB SSD I still use Catalina for my work. To use and restart the Mac with Monterey I almost always prefer to use the latest version of OCLP Night Build.
I HAVE JUST A DOUBT about the new Monterey's Time Machine: I find, so, it absolutely unfair that Backups created with Monterey cannot be viewed in full, using Catalina and other 10.XX macOS versions.
If my Mac breaks down, in the meantime that I fix it or buy a new Mac, I would have to use an my Mac with macOS High Sierra or Catalina and, in this case, in the Time Machine disk, created with Monterey, I could only see one disk (moreover hidden ) containing the latest Backup. All previous Backups would be lost forever; Monterey, in fact, from what I see by making the hidden files visible and examining them, it seems to me that it uses a kind of coded indexing and does not keep the individual files and folders of various hourly backups. The various hourly Backups, in short, appear only when Time Machine disk is used with the Mac with which the Backups were created.
Am I wrong, maybe? Thanks for tips and advice
 
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Going from 12.3 Beta 3 to 12.3 Beta 4 should be an incremental update. My point being it shouldn't be that large in comparison to say 12.3 to 12.4, or 12.3 to 13.
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Well known and reported/asked here many times.
See e.g. #2,016 and have a look at the doc linked from there.

Please distinguish the terms "update via System Preferences / Software Update (aka OTA update)" and delta update. OTA is always possible, which is a great achievement of OCLP. Just the size of the download made by the OTA update varies: some 2GB if deltas are possible, and some 11GB if not.
And as was said, system with OCLP's post-install root patch applied will download the large size. So the download takes longer, but the subsequent steps are similar, if a bit longer. But it works. A very small inconvenience to my mind.

I have a root-patched system as well and am just doing the OTA update from 12.3b3 to b4 which loads 11GB.
 

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Well known and reported/asked here many times.
See e.g. #2,016 and have a look at the doc linked from there.

Please distinguish the terms "update via System Preferences / Software Update (aka OTA update)" and delta update. OTA is always possible, which is a great achievement of OCLP. Just the size of the download made by the OTA update varies: some 2GB if deltas are possible, and some 11GB if not.
And as was said, system with OCLP's post-install root patch applied will download the large size. So the download takes longer, but the subsequent steps are similar, if a bit longer. But it works. A very small inconvenience to my mind.

I have a root-patched system as well and am just doing the OTA update from 12.3b3 to b4 which loads 11GB.
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None of that is in question. I have read and understood that prior to posting.

That does’t negate my point though. Just because it is does any mean it should. Maybe they’ll find a work around or another method altogether so it does’t do that.
 
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Did you try to apply post-install root patches again? In my case it solved the issue and the card reader got working again.
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no such luck here, I tried but it didn't work... I even tried resetting the pram as well
I know I'm not the only one and it just stopped after an update
 
ChrisOSX said:
Which reboot / boot picker screen were you seeing?

When I did mine initially, I didn't opt-start from the usb, so it tried booting but failed on the ? drive icon. Opt-start brought me to the USB boot picker when showed my High Sierra and Monterey drives.

I followed the steps to enable boot from internal drive, booted through the super slow start-up assistant and then applied the root patch.

I can understand the annoyance, but this does come with the territory of installing software on unsupported devices.
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It got to the point where I couldn’t even boot in to safe mode, it would just crash on the progress bar. I’ve installed all the betas to this point, booting in to safe mode, installing post install patch then it was fine. But since Day 1 I experienced regular full system crashes only fixable by manually restarting.

No one was able to help with this issue on here.
 
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