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rotfeld

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My Macbook Pro 9,2 is stuck on gray wheel at first login after upgrade (from Catalina). I’m using OCLP 0.5.3 and Monterey 12.6.2. What am I doing wrong? Anyone experiencing the same issue?
 

719c6

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After getting the cMP up and running with Windows 10 and 11, each on a NVME, I've noticed that USB flash drives formatted as FAT32 not longer are readable. They show up in device manager and disk management but no reads. I can read NTFS drives just fine. Is that just part of having OC? Or is there a fix?
 

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After getting the cMP up and running with Windows 10 and 11, each on a NVME, I've noticed that USB flash drives formatted as FAT32 not longer are readable. They show up in device manager and disk management but no reads. I can read NTFS drives just fine. Is that just part of having OC? Or is there a fix?
Is this the Windows 11 on unsupported Macs thread?
 

HowowcanIgo

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Jan 3, 2022
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Hi guys,

Is anyone having trouble opening apps on his Mac with these last few updates?
I can open apps after login but after say 10min when I want to open a new one, it won't. The icon bounces for a while and eventually it stops bouncing but nothing happens. They do appear in the force quit menu and if I try to force quit them it it takes a long while or won't (I lose patience after a while and just hold the power button at this point.

I've had these problems on OCLP 0.5.2 & now on 0.5.3 too. I don't know if it relates to OCLP or MacOS or unfortunately even my Mac itself as it's quite an old machine (2009).But I had no problems with previous versions.
I tried rebuilding and installing OCLP and removing and reinstalling the patches to no avail.
What has changed however is the battery quality. It's completely worthless at this point as even the internal clock needs to be updated when I log in.
Could this be the reason? Or have the last updates of Monterey gotten more demanding for the CPU, GPU, memory,...?
I've rebooted when plugged in and that doesn't change things so I'm not hopeful replacing the battery will help.

Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,

Frederik
 

Ausdauersportler

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Hi guys,

Is anyone having trouble opening apps on his Mac with these last few updates?
I can open apps after login but after say 10min when I want to open a new one, it won't. The icon bounces for a while and eventually it stops bouncing but nothing happens. They do appear in the force quit menu and if I try to force quit them it it takes a long while or won't (I lose patience after a while and just hold the power button at this point.

I've had these problems on OCLP 0.5.2 & now on 0.5.3 too. I don't know if it relates to OCLP or MacOS or unfortunately even my Mac itself as it's quite an old machine (2009).But I had no problems with previous versions.
I tried rebuilding and installing OCLP and removing and reinstalling the patches to no avail.
What has changed however is the battery quality. It's completely worthless at this point as even the internal clock needs to be updated when I log in.
Could this be the reason? Or have the last updates of Monterey gotten more demanding for the CPU, GPU, memory,...?
I've rebooted when plugged in and that doesn't change things so I'm not hopeful replacing the battery will help.

Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,

Frederik
About bouncing apps in the docs:
Try to disable Featureunlock, guess searching this thread would give the the same info.

About MacBooPro 2009 hardware problems:
There are other threads about this ancient HW covering it, you can go back to the latest supported macOS to cross check the hardware.

About Monterey eating HW:
Yes, but this is nothing new. The newer the macOS versions become the more hardware it needs to provide the same (like AirDrop, AirPlay) or new functionality (like UC…) Especially the desktop itself really needs some GPU power and sometimes the login screen itself unmasks a broken GPU.
 
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Argyboy

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Seemingly you got the same machine than I do. This MPB runs the latest Ventura build without any issues. If you dont have any limitations in terms of software requirements for any of the previous MacOS', why not moving to 13.1 instead? For the worst case always have Time Machine backups at hand, however, I never needed them in my case.
Got Ventura installed on my MBP yesterday, and it runs far better than I expected it to in terms of speed. In fact, I don't see a whole lot of difference between Ventura and Catalina in terms of speed on these machines, even with 8GB RAM. Thanks for the suggestion! It'll be great to get another few years of use out of this laptop.
 
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Faline

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Dec 20, 2022
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as soon as I resolve may I post a resulting message about how I fixed, If it's of any interest for anyone here and would be relevant in the thread.
Hi again, chaps!
Now I can share how I sucessfully restored my Windows-11 bootable (EFI - GPT ) either form behind OC or without prior OC picking. The task was to install Billy Gate's system onto a separate internal SATA drive. Actually I made up my mind to follow hwojtek 's wise advice to reinstall Windows with OC without looking for intricate ways.

The steps to follow if someone wants to do same:
- with Disk Utility you have to ensure that the target drive is a GPT drive formatted as win NTFS or exFat (this can be reformatted later from inside Win installation procedure)
- with Bootcamp Assistant you prepare as requested a Windows installation U-disk and create a Bootcamp partition on the internal drive with the smallest possible size (you may never use it later, you can, though, if you want it for some other purpose). Guess this is to integrate Windows into Mac's system and activate Windows bootability. (Am I wrong, pals? Or this is an unnecessary step?)
- after the computer reboots press Opt key to pick Efi OC to boot and then pick "Windows" (this is your U-disk for GPT Windows placement) and let the installer work. When it's time to choose target you point to the already prepared disk (with a name you assigned before). If previously it was exFAT you are to reformat it on the spot (with that the disk will be automatically awareded with the standard BOOTCAMP name - *later you will discover two different BOOTCAMPs in your system ( which hopefully can be remedied later by renaming the partition with the alreay installed Windows).
- Windows reboots 3 times from inside the OC, you are likely to check the automatic correct picking of "Windows" (not the OsX Monterrey or other)
- as soon as all is finished including the Apple Windows support packade stetting up remember to remove/disable Boot Camp manager application from Autostarts (through e.g. Tasks manager) PRIOR to Windows reboot after the package is over- this is highly important otherwise you will get system freeze with the distorted graphics screen. In the latter case you can exclude the unfortunate Boot Camp manger from Autostart list within Windows safe mode.

In the long run you will get Windows bootable ftom both: either from behind the OC wall or not, which is also very pleasant. :) . I've got the whole system working fine on my iMac27-mid2010.

Since I was in a hurry to revive and blow life into my system with MacOS and Windows I had not checked/studied the possibility of removing the small BOOTCAMP partition created by Bootcamp assistant or renaming the other Bootcamp partition where Windows rests: was not determined to run into new problems. Maybe the OCLP connoiseurs here know the exact consequencieds of such post-instlall (probably risky) actions. Let them answer, anyway that would be a precious comment.
I omit description of Windows 11 U-disk preparation for unsupported computers, which is a separate story, sorry now. Since this is irrelevant in this thread.
 
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markj3000

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May 11, 2021
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I'm running Monterey on a Late 2008 2.93ghz dual core MBP with 8gb ram and an SSD. It runs everything smooth but temps jump up pretty quickly being a dual core so I have iStat Menues with a custom fan curve. It gets louder but works. It's a secondary tinkering machine so not super concerned about performance but my guess is you wouldn't have any issues with it. To me it seems to run just as well as Catalina on this machine.
I have two late 2008 13” 5,1 mb’s like that, but they have issues with the WiFi dropping out and not coming back after sleep on Catalina and above, on oclp with all post patches. Does yours do that/ did you have to fix that?
 

Bmld

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Dec 25, 2022
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Hello

On Monterey (ocpl 5.3 / Mac midle 2010) I had a problem with the screen and a coming back after a sleep. In the energy saver I select the first item and the problem is resolved.

Capture d’écran 2022-12-25 à 12.18.11.png



I install Catalina on a 2008 MacBooks with Dosdude patcher without problem since two years.
 

HowowcanIgo

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Jan 3, 2022
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About bouncing apps in the docs:
Try to disable Featureunlock, guess searching this thread would give the the same info.

About MacBooPro 2009 hardware problems:
There are other threads about this ancient HW covering it, you can go back to the latest supported macOS to cross check the hardware.

About Monterey eating HW:
Yes, but this is nothing new. The newer the macOS versions become the more hardware it needs to provide the same (like AirDrop, AirPlay) or new functionality (like UC…) Especially the desktop itself really needs some GPU power and sometimes the login screen itself unmasks a broken GPU.
Hi Ausdauersportler, thanks for the reply.
I've been searching for posts mentioning Featureunlock and I noticed they're older than a few months. I've never had this issue before and I've been using OCLP for the better part of the year now so I'm not sure why I'd experience an issue with Feautureunlock now.

The apps I start right after a reboot open without a problem.
But starting an app after say 10min just makes the icon bounce and shows the app as *(not responding) in the Force Quit window. Even when the bouncing stops (and there's no dot below the app icon in the doc) it shows up In the Force Quit window as *(not responding).
Meanwhile the system is not showing any sign of hanging really. No fans speeding up or getting warm...
Another issue I noticed for example was with my earphones. I had plugged in my earphones for the first half an hour, then pulled them out and after a while put them back in. The earphones did not get recognised this time it seemed. Music kept being played on the normal built-in speakers. I now there've been problems with these ports do to age but after repeatedly trying nothing changed. I assume this also is software that needs to be triggered by a hardware switch in the plug?

*edit: I've tried with disabling Featureunlock but to no avail.

Are you still covinced it could be Featureunlock that's causing the problem?

Thanks again.
Frederik
 
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trifero

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It's tasteless to monetize every information one has just read on a forum, where OC developers and hundreds of people provide free, in-depth support. Even worse, he does not understand how it works. Copypasting monkey.
I disagree. Deeply. His work is huge. As you said, he has read thousands of posts, docs, archives, written by hundreds of people, and condesed in an ordenated, easy to find audiovisual list. Its a huge work.
 
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E__F__

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Mar 27, 2021
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I have two late 2008 13” 5,1 mb’s like that, but they have issues with the WiFi dropping out and not coming back after sleep on Catalina and above, on oclp with all post patches. Does yours do that/ did you have to fix that?
I haven't had that issue with my machine. I did a clean install of Monterey if you didn't then that could be part of it. Mine is he 15" and I bought it right around when they announced the new 2009 17" which this 2.93ghz processor is from. So we may have slightly different internals beyond just the CPU & GPU. I would say to make a bootable flash drive using the open core app and do a clean install if you haven't already. This is what they say on the Dortania github for troubleshooting wifi:

Cannot connect Wi-Fi on Monterey with legacy cards​


With OCLP v0.2.5, we've added support for legacy Wi-Fi on Monterey. However, some users may have noticed that they can't connect to wireless networks.


To work-around this, we recommend that users manually connect using the "other" option in the Wi-Fi menu bar or manually adding the network in the "Network" preference pane.



You could also try rebuilding your opencore efi from the app. I've been using opencore for less than a month now though so don't know all the ins and outs.
 
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Faline

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Dec 20, 2022
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I disagree. Deeply. His work is huge. As you said, he has read thousands of posts, docs, archives, written by hundreds of people, and condesed in an ordnenated, easy to find audiovisual list. Its a huge work.

people
I also support Mr.Macintosch's work because he is popularizing OCLP in the media which itself is very popular, he does a good job spreading knowledge on the very useful instruments and approaches amongst plenty of people possesing "unsupported" computers. Besides, he honestly directs people to this source, drawing those who want to be involved deeper for better understanding. Otherwise how could we have learned about this place ?...
Hundreds of OCLP programmers could have done same, but it seems no one ventured the obviously useful task.
 

Faline

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Dec 20, 2022
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I disagree. Deeply. His work is huge. As you said, he has read thousands of posts, docs, archives, written by hundreds of people, and condesed in an ordnenated, easy to find audiovisual list. Its a huge work.

people
I also support Mr.Macintosch's work because he is popularizing OCLP in the media which itself is very popular, he does a good job spreading knowledge on the very useful instruments and approaches amongst plenty of people possesing "unsupported" computers. Besides, he honestly directs people to this source, drawing those who want to be involved deeper for better understanding. Otherwise how could we have learned about this place ?...
Hundreds of OCLP programmers could have done same, but it seems no one ventured the obviously useful task.
 

princeegli

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Dec 7, 2017
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hi....im on my 2009 mac mini...with sierra 10.12 (from Dosdude Patcher)
i want to go to montery....but can i just go oclp steps....im wondering about the APFS ,will the install work...or do i have to do the APFS Patch first.....or can i just use my 0.5.3 oclp and create install usb ,and install
.......
ive been having the error creating usb install with oclp....my monterey install is in my applications folder.
i read where someone took it out of applications,and put in other folder,then oclp create media worked
but if i try and move installer,it just moves a 4kb shortcut...but remains in applications.
thanks for any help.
 
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MacHosehead

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May 21, 2022
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ve been having the error creating usb install with oclp....my monterey install is in my applications folder.
i read where someone took it out of applications,and put in other folder,then oclp create media worked
but if i try and move installer,it just moves a 4kb shortcut...but remains in applications.
thanks for any help.
OCLP shoud be able to create a USB installer from the Monterey install in the Applications folder. Did you download it from OCLP? What is the error?

You can move something from the Applications folder in Finder by holding down the command key and dragging into the other folder.

After booting from the USB installer EFI maybe you could start with installing Monterey to external media first and see how it goes.
 
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princeegli

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Dec 7, 2017
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OCLP shoud be able to create a USB installer from the Monterey install in the Applications folder. Did you download it from OCLP? What is the error?

You can move something from the Applications folder in Finder by holding down the command key and dragging into the other folder.

After booting from the USB installer EFI maybe you could start with installing Monterey to external media first and see how it goes.
thanks
 

Staygrade

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Jan 29, 2021
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I created a user account and it also beachballs.
WindowServer [ERROR] - Unknown CGXDisplayDevice: 0x41dc9d00
error 16:12:09.934473+0100 kernel 1 duplicate report for System Policy: symptomsd(190) deny(1) system-privilege 10006
error 16:12:09.934489+0100 kernel Sandbox: WindowServer(176) deny(1) iokit-set-properties HIDWaitCursorFrameInterval
error 16:12:10.618098+0100 WindowServer [ERROR] - Unknown CGXDisplayDevice: 0x41dc9d00

Do you think it has someting to do with the dGPU being disbaled for graphics switching?
Any idea what this is? [0x13c0117e420] Bad CurrentVBLDelta for display 69673216 is zero. defaulting to 60Hz.
It doesn't happen when I run El Capitan only in the OCLP Monterey.
 

princeegli

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Dec 7, 2017
12
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thats my error.....yes i downloaded monterey from oclp

im trying again tomorroe with an ssd drive as external drive
 
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