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DerMario

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macOS Monterey Beta 3 & Safari 15.0 (17612.1.22.1.4) issue
In "macOS Monterey Beta 3" sometimes Safari try to restart a page several times and then stops with a white page and notice that cannot load.
Initially I solved instantly from the menu:
Develop -> Disable JavaScript.
Once this done, the page has been opened without problems and now it is reopened even if I reactivated JavaScript.
Attention, since the problem may have been solved after installing "Safari Developer Preview", but don't ask me why... Maybe "Safari Developer Preview" introduced some packages in "Library" also needed for Safari?... I can't say it, but now Safari is always working, even if I open very complex pages.
In any case we could conclude that problems derive from poorly realized WEB pages or from Java version and/or that Apple will have to introduce some control so that Safari can open this pages also.

Note: the issue was reported privately and kindly by @Will350, thanking you
And... I forgot ... I add that Safari now it's very much much much much fast !!! ... Really impressive :)
I installed the technology Beta but the normal safari from Beta 3 still doesn't work. Any News on solving this?
 

borp99

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I installed the technology Beta but the normal safari from Beta 3 still doesn't work. Any News on solving this?
I have Beta 3 running and my [normal] Safari 15.0 is working just fine. I prefer Firefox but that's crashing (v89x or 90x) as soon as it opens.
 

borp99

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My bluetooth card is internal Broadcom 20702 which should work. I've seen it working sparingly on B2 and B3. I am going to install B1 and see if it works there. Tried BlueToothFixup.kext but didn't seem to work.

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Something is off. This did work a few times, but might have been dumb luck. Going to install Monterey Beta 1 to see if it works there.

I have an ASUS BlueTooth 5 LE dongle ordered for 19.99 to see if it works.
My 'internal' BT 4.2 on a BCM943602CDP card also intermittently showed up on my System Report USB list, only about 1 in every 10 reboots with Beta 1 and never with b2 or b3. I too have considered an external dongle. However, member Tsialex reported to me that, when we regularly boot back and forth into new and older versions of macOS, the NVRAM gets over-populated with bluetooth configurations - with some of the older OS formats conflicting with newer formats updated by Apple. Therefore, it's likely that these multiple instances of 'do this/no, do that' during the boot sequence simply means that the kexts aren't loaded (especially prone with current Monterey beats). The only remedy is to clear NVRAM and not swap between OS's, or get a BootROM reconsruction to flash (bringing settings back to their starting point ex-factory) or buy a dongle, which I hope works for you.
 

Desjek-T

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Jul 26, 2012
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On my iMac 27" 13.2 Late 2012 Monterey Beta 3 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2 GB and 802.11ac Wi-Fi card patched with OCLP 0.2.4, I have seen that Photo Booth and Safari correctly works but Apple TV app, Netflix and Amazon Prime with Safari browser do not work.

On the other hand, Netflix with any other browser works correctly.

Do you know what the solution might be? On Big Sur everything worked correctly, thanks!!
 
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Maclinux

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Hi there,

First of all thank you very much for the help, it's great to be able to keep giving life to old Macs.
I have a MBP 9.2, I downloaded the "InstallAssistant Beta 3" from Montrrey and the OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher_main. I have created the usb installer with the Montrrey Beta, but I don't know how to apply the Open-Core-Legacy-Patcher... Can you help me? Thanks again. :):)
 

macpro_mid2014

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In his Youtube channel, Mr. Macintosh demonstrated how to do an "over the air" update from Monterey Beta 1 to Beta 2.

I tried to do an over the air update from Monterey Beta 2 to Beta 3, but the update did not work:

1- Downloaded the update via Software Update;
2- Waited for the 30 minutes "preparing";
3- Black screen with an Apple logo and a progress bar, which lasted for few minutes without any time indication;
4- Automatic reboot;
5- Chose EFI from the list;
6- macOS Installer did not appear in the EFI menu (but only in the first menu together with the EFI option);
7- Then I chose the disk where I wanted the update to be installed;
8- The Apple logo with a 5 minutes progress bar appeared but after the reboot, macOS Installer was still in the first menu together with EFI;
9- After I chose EFI and then the disk where the update should have been installed, the system booted to Monterey Beta 2, NOT Beta3;
10- I repeated this process a couple of times but I was able to update to Beta 3 only after using a USB stick prepared with createinstallmedia.

OBS: with the USB stick, macOS Installer showed AFTER I chose EFI in the first boot menu.

Hardware:


1- MacbookPro11,2
2- Destination is a Thunderbolt 2 1TB SSD by Lacie
3- Still running Big Sur 11.4 in the internal disk (1Tb NVMe SSD)

Thanks,
 
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amaze1499

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Hi there,

First of all thank you very much for the help, it's great to be able to keep giving life to old Macs.
I have a MBP 9.2, I downloaded the "InstallAssistant Beta 3" from Montrrey and the OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher_main. I have created the usb installer with the Montrrey Beta, but I don't know how to apply the Open-Core-Legacy-Patcher... Can you help me? Thanks again. :):)
Double click Open Core Patcher 0.2.3
Select what you need to patch
Simple as that
 
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macpro_mid2014

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Hi there,

First of all thank you very much for the help, it's great to be able to keep giving life to old Macs.
I have a MBP 9.2, I downloaded the "InstallAssistant Beta 3" from Montrrey and the OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher_main. I have created the usb installer with the Montrrey Beta, but I don't know how to apply the Open-Core-Legacy-Patcher... Can you help me? Thanks again. :):)

Take a look:


Thanks
 

skwood

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On my iMac 27" 13.2 Late 2012 Monterey Beta 3 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2 GB and 802.11ac Wi-Fi card patched with OCLP 0.2.4, I have seen that Photo Booth and Safari correctly works but Apple TV app, Netflix and Amazon Prime with Safari browser do not work.

On the other hand, Netflix with any other browser works correctly.

Do you know what the solution might be? On Big Sur everything worked correctly, thanks!!
This could be iCloud+ Private relay being seen as a VPN by these services. Try disabling that :)
 
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Desjek-T

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This could be iCloud+ Private relay being seen as a VPN by these services. Try disabling that :)
I have tried this but it continues to not play the content. As I said, the Apple TV app won't play anything and Safari won't play Netflix or Amazon Prime Video either. It only plays content from Brave or Firefox. Thank you!
 

khronokernel

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I have tried this but it continues to not play the content. As I said, the Apple TV app won't play anything and Safari won't play Netflix or Amazon Prime Video either. It only plays content from Brave or Firefox. Thank you!
This is due to the lack of Intel HD4000 drivers on the root volume, OCLP opts to disable the iGPU outright to allow for the usage of FileVault, SIP and delta updates.

If you still wish to root patch the HD4000 back into macOS, go into Patcher Settings and disable SIP and enable "Allow Ivy iMac iGPU:". Build a new OpenCore, install to disk, reboot and try root patching

I wouldn't recommend this however some user may feel that Safari DRM is more important so best to determine for yourself whether or not you benefit from FileVault, SIP and delta updates
 

Desjek-T

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Jul 26, 2012
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This is due to the lack of Intel HD4000 drivers on the root volume, OCLP opts to disable the iGPU outright to allow for the usage of FileVault, SIP and delta updates.

If you still wish to root patch the HD4000 back into macOS, go into Patcher Settings and disable SIP and enable "Allow Ivy iMac iGPU:". Build a new OpenCore, install to disk, reboot and try root patching

I wouldn't recommend this however some user may feel that Safari DRM is more important so best to determine for yourself whether or not you benefit from FileVault, SIP and delta updates
Perfect thank you very much for the information I prefer FileVault, SIP and delta, too. I don't mind switching browsers to watch Amazon and Netflix. Cheers!
 

mwidjaya

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This is due to the lack of Intel HD4000 drivers on the root volume, OCLP opts to disable the iGPU outright to allow for the usage of FileVault, SIP and delta updates.
Ah, let me get it straight.

With my 2012 Macmini w/ HD4000, basically it is not ideal to run Monterey.

Applying the root patch means no Filevault, SIP and OTA?
 

vince22

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Ah, let me get it straight.

With my 2012 Macmini w/ HD4000, basically it is not ideal to run Monterey.

Applying the root patch means no Filevault, SIP and OTA?
please read OP, to achieve HD4000 graphics accerelation requires FileVault and SIP disabled for mounting/ root patching to work successfully, delta (OTA) updates still works.

photo.jpeg
 
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khronokernel

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delta (OTA) updates still works
Delta != OTA

Delta references the smaller (ie. 2GB~) update packages between betas. Root Patching breaks the APFS Snapshot's seal and thus macOS is forced to request a full OS update (11GB~). These are still OTA and native to macOS however deltas won't work, if they do it's a clear bug on macOS's part as this poses a great deal of concern for file integrity during updates
 

mwidjaya

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Delta references the smaller (ie. 2GB~) update packages between betas. Root Patching breaks the APFS Snapshot's seal and thus macOS is forced to request a full OS update (11GB~). These are still OTA and native to macOS
Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

So OTA w/ full OS update is still ok.

Does that mean after that, I will need to reapply root patch? I would think so, right?
 

khronokernel

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Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

So OTA w/ full OS update is still ok.

Does that mean after that, I will need to reapply root patch? I would think so, right?
Yes, after the OS update it'll need to be repatched
We're currently looking into automatic patching on first login after OS updates to help streamline the process however as of right now you'll need to manually rerun the Post Install patches
 

vince22

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Delta != OTA

Delta references the smaller (ie. 2GB~) update packages between betas. Root Patching breaks the APFS Snapshot's seal and thus macOS is forced to request a full OS update (11GB~). These are still OTA and native to macOS however deltas won't work, if they do it's a clear bug on macOS's part as this poses a great deal of concern for file integrity during updates
thanks for clarifying .
 

Lars B.

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This is due to the lack of Intel HD4000 drivers on the root volume, OCLP opts to disable the iGPU outright to allow for the usage of FileVault, SIP and delta updates.

If you still wish to root patch the HD4000 back into macOS, go into Patcher Settings and disable SIP and enable "Allow Ivy iMac iGPU:". Build a new OpenCore, install to disk, reboot and try root patching

I wouldn't recommend this however some user may feel that Safari DRM is more important so best to determine for yourself whether or not you benefit from FileVault, SIP and delta updates
Does this apply to the 15 inch MacBookPro10,1 as well? Will OCLP simply disable the iGPU and FileVault, SIP and delta updates will work normally? So the only difference compared to Big Sur with its included HD4000 drivers is that the system always uses the discrete GPU on Monterey and does no GPU switching? Everything else continues to work?
 
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