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Negative experience with MBP 10,1 installation of macOS Monterey Dev Beta 4 with OCLP v0.2.3 and v0.2.4
Have others been encountering the following types of difficulties or am I alone in my distress?
Setup:
HTH,
Mike
PS: Just realized that it could have been that case that I just didn't wait long enough in stage 2, i.e., after the screen went from ~40% thermometer to all black, so I'll try again and note if there's any disk activity (blinking lights on my USB external disk case) for the 250GB SSD target.
Have others been encountering the following types of difficulties or am I alone in my distress?
Setup:
- Normally running Big Sur from internal 500GB SSD, with:
- External USB 3TB drive for TimeMachine backup and extra storage,
- External USB 250GB SSD as a target for Monterey installation
- External USB 64GB Thumb Drive as InstallAssistant and OCLP target.
- Attempted an incremental update from Monterey Dev Beta 3 running on the 250GB external SSD and booting from an EFI installed earlier by OCLP v0.2.3 (probably) Default OCLP settings, except Verbose set to true.
- Did a full InstallAssistant download (using the first URL listed in this thread), created an installer on the thumb drive with an EFI produced by the text version (and, later, the GUI version) of OCLP v0.2.3. Then attempted a full install to the 250GB external SSD using the thumb drive EFI and Installer.
- Same as 2, except re-downloaded InstallAssistant (from new URL: http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...fn37408kguq3obcd05itznjk/InstallAssistant.pkg) and used updated OCLP v0.2.4 (Text UI)
- Install failed to complete (left overnight, didn't monitor exact sequence)
- Install failed to complete:
- It started with normal black screen, white progress thermometer, proceeded to about 40% mark and halted (or went to fully black screen; but CPU still running, i.e., screen backlight on)
- Had generally unreliable behavior (e.g, failure to load selection list of target disks) from OCLP v0.2.3+ (i.e., with the new GUI and TUI).
- Went back to running Big Sur from internal SSD to get some other work done, but must have used one of the EFIs generated by the troublesome OCLP versions. System ran extremely slowly; email with Apple email client was broken-- you could open a message and headers would display, but content was all blank. This problem went away with new v0.2.4 TUI version of OCLP.
- Now with new InstallAssistant image and OCLP version, was hopeful. But just like Case 2, install halted with black screen after initial ~40% thermometer.
HTH,
Mike
PS: Just realized that it could have been that case that I just didn't wait long enough in stage 2, i.e., after the screen went from ~40% thermometer to all black, so I'll try again and note if there's any disk activity (blinking lights on my USB external disk case) for the 250GB SSD target.
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Hello everyone!
After installing Monterey Beta 4 on a late 2012 non-retina MBP 9.2 I have run into a couple of problems. As many have already reported, BT doesn't work, that doesn't bother me as much as the fact that the second monitor connected via Thunderbolt doesn't work. In fact I can't change the brightness of the MBP screen either. has anyone else had the same thing happen to them, any solutions maybe it's something that will be fixed in upcoming updates?
Thank you very much for the help.
After installing Monterey Beta 4 on a late 2012 non-retina MBP 9.2 I have run into a couple of problems. As many have already reported, BT doesn't work, that doesn't bother me as much as the fact that the second monitor connected via Thunderbolt doesn't work. In fact I can't change the brightness of the MBP screen either. has anyone else had the same thing happen to them, any solutions maybe it's something that will be fixed in upcoming updates?
Thank you very much for the help.
For some unknown reason, after a cold restart tonight, my BT works again in beta4 with OCLP 0.2.4.
Quick reply to my earlier msg. I have succeeded in working through the installation process. Took some extra care during multiple reboots in the process. Had to manually redirect them. More info later...
That's not inconceivable. You have an iMac, which could well be fed with USB differently on the circuit board, compared with the Mac Pro 3,1/4,1/5,1 which many of our posts are trying to get BT active again under Monterey.
BTW, how did you get USB 3 added to your iMac 2010 (via the SD slot)?
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Update: Succeeded in MBP 10,1 installation of macOS Monterey Dev Beta 4 with OCLP v0.2.3 and v0.2.4
I succeeded in getting a full install of Beta 4 as described in Case 3 of my original message. Took a total of about 1 hr 15 min. The trick was to actively monitor the process. After the initial phase (with white Apple logo, progress thermometer, 14 min), the system rebooted into a blank, black screen.
In fact, it was in a loop, rebooting every 5 min, flashing the boot drive selector screen for a second or two, booting into one of the EFI devices, going to black screen for 5 min, repeat. The trick was to catch it during that 1-2 sec window when the boot selector was showing and using the right-arrow key to move off the EFI choice.
There was an additional "drive" shown, apparently an in-memory disk image called something like "Macintosh Installer". Selected that, hit return to boot from it and that was the trick. Next phase was a blank screen (IIRC), about 21 min, with flashing LEDs on the external SSD drive indicating activity. One more time through the reboot process with manual intervention to select this "drive" again, the third phase was about 11 min and rebooted into the Monterey start screen.
Hope this helps (especially for those of you targeting an internal volume where you don't have a flashing LED to indicate that something is actually happening during blank screen periods
).Mike
The USB3 mod in my iMac 2010 is described in detail in another forum thread (and also linked in my signature):
USB 3 + Wifi ac + BT4.2 for iMac 27" mid 2010
There has been a thread on USB 3 for iMac 2009 and one on USB 3 for iMac 2011. The miniPCIe slot for wifi/BT is utilised to provide USB 3 connection at the expense of wifi and BT, which have to be changed to external dongles. Thus, I explore a similar idea from those threads to install USB 3 in...
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I haven't seen any adapter to plug into the SD card slot to convert it to a USB3 port. Otherwise, that will be genius!
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i have this issue since beta 1 with Mac mini 2021 and Cinema Display 24
the screen is always on although it s black
t should turn off when past 10 minutes after screen saver but it puts as black screen but not turn off. after hours of course the screen feels heating a lot
ive try to force turn off in configuration but I can‘t
the screen is always on although it s black
t should turn off when past 10 minutes after screen saver but it puts as black screen but not turn off. after hours of course the screen feels heating a lot
ive try to force turn off in configuration but I can‘t
Create an B3 USB installer and install it selecting your current Monterey partition/container as target.Can you tell me how i do it?
Thanks for the help!
Short questions, are there problems with Safari and login (Beta 4), like Safari causes kernel panics and not able to awake the mac after a longer time asleep?
My 2012 Mac Mini kernel panics a few times after watching media, like youtube videos.
Also, if I put my mac asleep at night and come back after my job the next day it won't awake, it does if I awake it in the morning, at least to my knowledge.
The sleepissues were there on all the other betas, the kernel panics only on b4.
My 2012 Mac Mini kernel panics a few times after watching media, like youtube videos.
Also, if I put my mac asleep at night and come back after my job the next day it won't awake, it does if I awake it in the morning, at least to my knowledge.
The sleepissues were there on all the other betas, the kernel panics only on b4.
@borp99 great job explaining.
I'm great with software horrible with wires, so I will most likely not attempt.
I currently have Beta 1 and Beta 4 installed. Attempting to put Beta 3 back on.
On my 20702B0 Broadcom card running on a Mac Pro 3,1 like many of the ones being modded, Bluetooth works fine on Beta 1 but not on Beta 4. What is the technical difference in USB and BT between the various betas of Monterey? Would a software patch work? Or is each version of Monterey changing too much?
Are there any Apple geniune WiFi/BT4LE cards out there that work out of the box and don't require modding or are we running into limitations of the Mac Pro 3,1 4,1 and 5,1?
I'm great with software horrible with wires, so I will most likely not attempt.
I currently have Beta 1 and Beta 4 installed. Attempting to put Beta 3 back on.
On my 20702B0 Broadcom card running on a Mac Pro 3,1 like many of the ones being modded, Bluetooth works fine on Beta 1 but not on Beta 4. What is the technical difference in USB and BT between the various betas of Monterey? Would a software patch work? Or is each version of Monterey changing too much?
Are there any Apple geniune WiFi/BT4LE cards out there that work out of the box and don't require modding or are we running into limitations of the Mac Pro 3,1 4,1 and 5,1?
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no I meant im curious what gpu was installed because it says radeon pro 570 lol
If you have Monty beta-4 BT blues, try
sudo killall -9 BlueTool bluetoothd
which might fix it until the next boot.
sudo killall -9 BlueTool bluetoothd
which might fix it until the next boot.
I'm trying install Monterrey with OCLP but for now I cant
Till yesterday I am running Big Sur in Mac mini 2012 with micro patcher (native boot) and kext patcher
I have a SD to install macOS, Big Sur in SD500 first drive, Catalina in SD120 as second boot and SD500 in USB3 to install Monterrey
I was able to install Monterrey with micropatcher and run but not possible patch acceleration or Wifi
OK I begun with OCLP
install system in SD and install OpenCore in it
I boot and select EFI boot and install Monterrey
The problem I have is the Big Sur can't be booted as before, I need to have SD inserted and select EFI boot and the load Big Sur, If I choose SD500 in the boot menu I has a start up error signal
How could I recover my old boot form with Big Sur system?
Till yesterday I am running Big Sur in Mac mini 2012 with micro patcher (native boot) and kext patcher
I have a SD to install macOS, Big Sur in SD500 first drive, Catalina in SD120 as second boot and SD500 in USB3 to install Monterrey
I was able to install Monterrey with micropatcher and run but not possible patch acceleration or Wifi
OK I begun with OCLP
install system in SD and install OpenCore in it
I boot and select EFI boot and install Monterrey
The problem I have is the Big Sur can't be booted as before, I need to have SD inserted and select EFI boot and the load Big Sur, If I choose SD500 in the boot menu I has a start up error signal
How could I recover my old boot form with Big Sur system?
Several options:
1. Install Big Sur using OCLP, too! Otherwise you would need to handle the different EFI partitions managed by micropatcher and OLCP all the time (frankly speaking I do not understand why one can stick with this tool for now).
2. You have several disks. So you can install OC from the OCLP on the Monterey disks EFI partition, the micropatcher EFI on the Big Sur disk.
You already found your solution as you figured out how to boot Big Sur again using an SD card with the proper EFI installed there.
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I'm curious - are all the people having issues with Mid 2012 MacBook Pros and bluetooth running original BT/Wifi cards?
Has anyone got Bluetooth working in B4 with an upgraded bcm94360cd (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/802-11ac-and-bt-4-2-are-here-for-unibody-mbps.2171056/) ?
Has anyone got Bluetooth working in B4 with an upgraded bcm94360cd (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/802-11ac-and-bt-4-2-are-here-for-unibody-mbps.2171056/) ?
Seemingly. From my point of view its a software driver issue. When booted from 10.14.6 (backup drive, external HDD) my MBP 9,2 offers Bluetooth as usual.
EduCovas, on of our developers was able to confirm this fixed Bluetooth issues on their MacBookPro9,2.
Additionally would like to report that a hibernation cycle also resolved this on my personal MacBookPro9,2: