macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Heliotropen]

Live text had to be disabled for Nvidia Kepler GPUs and Ivy/Haswell iGPUs to avoid kernel panics caused by the mediaanalysisd when you have a big Photos library.

Don't enable AMFI on Macs with those cards, the current patch set for them requires that to be disabled for now, hopefully we'll be able to finally solve this soon. Once it's fixed, it'll be in the change log.

So far the only problems caused by AMFI being disabled are the broken permissions (that can be worked around with tccplus) and VirtualBox that's not launching VMs. Other than that, everything should work just like 13.2.1 and older.

I read that to late ... now I'm stuck halfway booting.
Had fixed everything so it was working ... but then I got that much smarter.

Any way to turn it back off from recovery?
Or do I have to make a network reinstall of Sierra and then start over?

 

[OKonnel]

Saw that too late, everything was working, but now it gets stuck halfway booting.
Can I do anything to disable AMFI again besides reinstalling everything?
*note that I can't boot, but I can boot into recovery*
Well if nothing else I got that smarter
Will try the other things when I'm up running again.

Start-up your Mac.
As soon as the Disk icon appears, immediately press the SpaceBar repeatedly.
You will now see several icons appear.
Don't touch anything, but press the left Shift key and while pressing it, click on the main disk.
Your Mac will start up in Safe Mode. So restart OCLP, install to Disk, restart the Mac and when it restarts (at Gong) press and hold the Option key until the EFIBoot icon appears.
Click on the icon and you will have installed OCLP

 

[WurzelGnOOm]

Hello everyone,

can one of you please help me to solve a problem?

I don't get a notification from apps to grant them certain rights.
"tccutil reset AppleEvents" already run, but without success.

An example: GrandTotal creates an email with Apple Mail, but doesn't do it because the authorization is missing.

On my MacBook with 13.3.1 without OCLP it works without any problems.

I have no idea what could be the reason.
Thanx for your great Support

 

[Heliotropen]

Start-up your Mac.
As soon as the Disk icon appears, immediately press the SpaceBar repeatedly.
You will now see several icons appear.
Don't touch anything, but press the left Shift key and while pressing it, click on the main disk.
Your Mac will start up in Safe Mode. So restart OCLP, install to Disk, restart the Mac and when it restarts (at Gong) press and hold the Option key until the EFIBoot icon appears.
Click on the icon and you will have installed OCLP

Works with the space bar, keeps shift down + presses the main disk.
But it still gets stuck half way in ...

Can I prepare an OCLP usb from my macbook to the imac somehow?
And then boot up on that?

 

[educovas]

You could use the installer USB stick to boot OpenCore and then boot the installed OS. Building OpenCore USB stick for your iMac on a different Mac is also possible.

 

[Heliotropen]

You could use the installer USB stick to boot OpenCore and then boot the installed OS. Building OpenCore USB stick for your iMac on a different Mac is also possible.

Ha, yeah, I first used the usb to install the imac then the mac, so it had the Opencore for the macbook on it.
But think I have the usb ready now: launched Opencore on the mac, change the settings to the imac and installed that patch on the usb with the ventura for the imac. ... will try to boot from it on the imac now.

Edit: is now reinstalling from the usb … hope it works 🤞🏻

 

[GH1852]

I'm asking for assistance with getting into Safe Boot. I'm running Ventura 13.3.1 using OCLP 0.6.4 on a mid-2012 MacBook Pro. I also want to mention that I have Windows 10 installed (without any problems) using BootCamp Assistant, installed in legacy (non-UEfI) mode.

The system seems to be running fine, and I can reach MacOS Recovery by using the boot picker and command-r.

However, I can't seem to coax MacOS to boot into Safe Boot. At the boot picker, I hold down the left shift key, and use Enter to continue. The progress indicator alway stops at around 50-55%. Waiting 40 minutes doesn't show any further process.

I've been advised on the OCL Discord server to try clearing NVRAM. However I've seen mentions of resetting NVRAM on a Mac running OCLP with Windows installed leading to a scenario where the system offers Windows at boot but MacOS no longer is offered at startup.

I'm a little wary about doing something in an attempt to address the Safe Boot issue that might make things a good deal worse. I don't use Safe Boot unless I'm troubleshooting, which actually isn't that often.

Thanks for looking.

 

[OKonnel]

Ha, yeah, I first used the usb to install the imac then the mac, so it had the Opencore for the macbook on it.
But think I have the usb ready now: launched Opencore on the mac, change the settings to the imac and installed that patch on the usb with the ventura for the imac. ... will try to boot from it on the imac now.
Edit: is now reinstalling from the usb … hope it works 🤞🏻

Follow the advice of @educovas.
If to install macOS 13.3.1 you had created a USB PenDrive with OCLP and default settings:
- Insert the PenDrive in an USB port
- Start-up your Mac
- At Gong's sound immediately press and hold the Option key
- When disks and EFIBoot appear, select the EFIBoot of the PenDrive (it is easy to recognize it based on the icon), so:
- LEAVE the Pen Drive inserted and restart the Mac
- When the Mac has started up regularly and you have arrived at your Home, just restart OCLP 0.6.4 or 0.6.5 Nightly without modify the Setting and indicate the Main System Disk to install the EFIBoot
Done. So:
- restart your Mac,
- At Gong's sound immediately press and hold the Option key
- When disks and EFIBoot appear, now select EFIBoot with Main Disk icon overlaid
The Mac should carry on normally

If instead you want to use another Mac to create a PenDrive with Ventura 13.3.1 installer for this iMac, remember that in OCLP Settings you must first select the iMac14,2. So, if you already have a PenDriva with the Installer, you will simply need to redo the EFIBoot using OCLP and install it on this stick. If you haven't made any other mistakes, this will allow you to restart your frozen iMac.

P.S.
If everything works again, kindly remember to do the Photoshop OpenCL test with the Advanced Sharpness filter as I asked you to... Thanks

 

[cab_007]

Regarding beta 4, I can confirm that with Little Snitch, network connection cycles even when the LS monitor/alert is disabled. I have to hit refresh periodically to get web pages to load/open. Similar issue is seen with continuous pings, it stops with
ping: sendto: No route to host
Request timeout for icmp_seq

UPDATE: After disabling LS Content Filter in System Settings, no more cycling but also no LS benefits in the meantime.

 

[rob.shaw]

Regarding beta 4, I can confirm that with Little Snitch, network connection cycles even when the LS monitor/alert is disabled. I have to hit refresh periodically to get web pages to load/open. Similar issue is seen with continuous pings, it stops with
ping: sendto: No route to host
Request timeout for icmp_seq

Found exactly the same. Had to stop all apps related to Little Snitch and it’s daemon for the connectivity to stop cycling.

 

[igisokMK2023]

Hi guys ,

Okey solution for this latest Patch should be Amfi and Gpu only related and Stable Ventura, for previous most used apps vintage,

what i think is that Ventura OS is best Os when you use Mobile and Pc together but Apple will Force developers or developers for Adobe,Fusion,Microsoft and other companies Like Parallels to focus on M Processors and that the true

What Oclp developers will enhance is to use open source software without problems and Gpu acceleration for Vintage Apps only Intel related,

So the true is that if you buy Apple product for web and surf you will not have any advantage from previous Pc and you are good to Go With Intel Macs and Oclp Bigsur,Ventura or Maverick,

INTEL X86 is history but Rosseta 2 is HOPE if Microsoft wants Agreement for cross platform cooperation or Intel makes deal again with Apple FOR arm cpu

Oclp will be back with patches and you can use every Os on older M Cpu in future

i think Apple decrease life span of their machine to 4 years Software support but again they never decreased the prices newer hardware is not life long lasting like previous 2020 machines

time will tell but OCLP IS great like Project since everybody can use Apple Ecosystem that more then enough

 

[ohphee]

If it helps someone, I installed Ventura 13.3.1 on a MacBookPro11,3 using OCLP 0.6.4 for a friend two weeks ago. Was a nightmare putting the pieces together since I haven't used Mac OS regularly after the PowerPC to Intel transition.

In the end, I needed to disable AMFI through setting NVRAM boot-args (via terminal with sudo nvram boot-args="amfi_get_out_of_my_way=1") by booting into the USB key with the Ventura installer. At the same time, I also disabled the NVIDIA Kepler discrete graphics in UEFI by passing the NVRAM command. Please refer to MacBookPro11,3 GMUX issues with 12.0 Beta 7 and newer #522 for the nvram value to disable/re-enable.

Doing so let me finally get through the progress bar hanging up during boot. What a relief to see it travel beyond 1/4 and then later 1/2.

Once booted fully into desktop, OCLP reported the post-install patches were already installed, but I reinstalled them anyways before re-enabling the Kepler dGPU via nvram.

Good luck!

 

[mikelets456]

If it helps someone, I installed Ventura 13.3.1 on a MacBookPro11,3 using OCLP 0.6.4 for a friend two weeks ago. Was a nightmare putting the pieces together since I haven't used Mac OS regularly since the PowerPC to Intel transition.

In the end, I needed to disable AMFI through setting NVRAM bootargs (via terminal with sudo nvram boot-args="amfi_get_out_of_my_way=1") by booting into the USB key with the Ventura installer. At the same time, I also disabled the NVIDIA Kepler discrete graphics in UEFI by passing the NVRAM command. Please refer to MacBookPro11,3 GMUX issues with 12.0 Beta 7 and newer #522 for the nvram value to disable/re-enable.

Doing so let me finally get through the progress bar hanging up during boot. What a relief to see it travel beyond 1/4 and then later 1/2.

Once booted fully into desktop, OCLP reported the post-install patches were already installed, but I reinstalled them anyways before re-enabling the Kepler dGPU via nvram.

Good luck!

Thanks for posting. I’m on a 11,4 on 13.2.1 and running perfectly. I think I stay here for a while. It sounds like rapid security and OCLP don’t play well together.

 

[ohphee]

Thanks for posting. I’m on a 11,4 on 13.2.1 and running perfectly. I think I stay here for a while. It sounds like rapid security and OCLP don’t play well together.

For what it's worth, my boyfriend rolled the dice and updated to RSR without a hitch today. He's at 13.3.1a now. If I were to do it again though, I'd definitely go for 13.2.1 like you did until the whole AMFI thing boils over with the next release of OCLP.

 

[dandeco]

Darn it! Now my MacBookPro11,4 was running fine at work today, but when I boot it up after arriving home, I get that problem I had after installing the RSR update. It must've downloaded and installed automatically without my permission or something! This time I booted it into Safe Mode and re-applied the post-install root patches, and that seemed to fix it for now.

 

[Heliotropen]

....

I was out of luck, could not get it to patch the usb correctly from the MacBook.
Had to reinstall, first trough Maverics, then Sierra ... then create a new USB.
But now I'm back running flawless ...

Will try to get photoshop to work again tomorrow and will test it out.
Anyways the machine seems to run as it should.

Had forgotten how pretty and uncomplicated Sierra looked, and how ugly these new versions are in compare, without all their children toy aesthetic and safety popups and so on

 

[igisokMK2023]

Only Thing that count for now,

Oclp is best for Imac 2012 up to 2020 also count for Mac mini 2014 up to 2019 with Bluetooth modules. Ivy Haswell ,Nvidia Kepler

all Apple Find me and Facetime Cloud ,Handoff working

best optimised drivers for Gpu are Nvidia Kepler,Amd and Intel Hd that all best library

best app for Hackintosh are Adobe Photoshop,Gimp,Adobe Premiere ,Avid,Final Cut Pro,Logic Sound pro,
microsoft suite,pages,

best browser Firefox and Safari,

best audio Boom3d enhancer

some crap software which is not well maintaned since Catalina like Clean My Mac,Gemini and Mac fuse which is still needed

If Linux has all of these we wont be using Mac anymore

Open source in Linux is solution in future if community will optimise Gpu drivers on Linux

 

[ofeyvi]

So apparently there's reports coming through that the Rapid Security Response for macOS Ventura 13.3.1 (a)
is breaking OCLP installs. What's everyone's experience? I've turned off all updates since my last bad experience of going from 13.2 to 13.3.1 update on OCLP 0.6.4.

What I've read is that "pre haswel cpus wont handle this update and will not install it. "
And some installs have resulted in non-bootable machines.

Anyone with a definitive answer or is skip till 13.4 works?

 

[dictoresno]

So apparently there's reports coming through that the Rapid Security Response for macOS Ventura 13.3.1 (a)
is breaking OCLP installs. What's everyone's experience? I've turned off all updates since my last bad experience of going from 13.2 to 13.3.1 update on OCLP 0.6.4.

What I've read is that "pre haswel cpus wont handle this update and will not install it. "
And some installs have resulted in non-bootable machines.

Anyone with a definitive answer or is skip till 13.4 works?

im wondering this too. I just took a leap and did a normal OTA update on my 2014 Mac mini from 13.2.1 to 13.3.1 and everything worked fine after applying the patches so far.

its now prompting me for the RSR update and im definitely not willing to risk it yet.

honestly, there's WAY too much info to sift through in this thread with what Ventura works with which OCLP on what computer. we need to make a new sticky thread wiki updated daily with a list by machine and the most current macOS Ventura release and most recent OCLP version that is working without issue so everyone can quickly glance and know for sure "ok with this model Mac, with this version Ventura, with this version of OCLP is working fine."

anything different than what's listed, stay away from until the wiki is updated with peer reviewed data.

 

[Wickintime]

I updated my MBA2015, OCLP 6.4 Ventura13.3.1 with RSR and had no problem. However my upgraded 2012 iMac with the same OCLP and Ventura upgrades will not download the RSR. ("Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again." The progress bar stops at about 3/4 distance.

 

[rehkram]

I just checked the OCLP releases page, this is now stated clearly, with no exceptions, at the top of the OCLP 6.4 release blurb:

WARNING: Do not install macOS 13.3.1 (a) Rapid Security Response Update, currently unsupported on Macs running OpenCore Legacy Patcher. If you installed the update by accident, you can recover by booting into Safe Mode, and repatch macOS​

Releases · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

I've turned off all automatic updates in System Settings on the rMBP10,1 for the time being. 13.3.1 is working well.

 

[davidlv]

I updated my MBA2015, OCLP 6.4 Ventura13.3.1 with RSR and had no problem. However my upgraded 2012 iMac with the same OCLP and Ventura upgrades will not download the RSR. ("Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again." The progress bar stops at about 3/4 distance.

1. On an iMac 15,1 late 2014 27" the RSR update worked, had to redo the post install root patches.
But on my "supported" M2 MBA, it wouldn't install. Here is a possible solution for Macs running OCLP.
After a 2 hour marathon Tel call with Apple Support trying to get the "Rabid Security Response" installed on my 2023 MBA (no OCLP of course), we finally had success after creating a new Admin User account (not necessary to set up Siri etc). The System Settings/General/Software Update was able to install that 13.3.1 (a) update. Deleted that account later and all is well. There was something in my User account preventing the update.
Might well be a useful troubleshooting method in such cases with OhCLP installed too.

 

[Wickintime]

Thanks for that but I think I'll follow the doritania/OCLP website advice for now.

 

[coolio2004]

Regarding beta 4, I can confirm that with Little Snitch, network connection cycles even when the LS monitor/alert is disabled. I have to hit refresh periodically to get web pages to load/open. Similar issue is seen with continuous pings, it stops with
ping: sendto: No route to host
Request timeout for icmp_seq

UPDATE: After disabling LS Content Filter in System Settings, no more cycling but also no LS benefits in the meantime.
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Same happened to me. Went back to 13.4b3 and I am waiting for LS update.

 

[dadiy]

Anyone running Ventura 13.3.1 on a MacBookPro13,3. Currently on 13.2.1 and things seem stable just not sure if it's safe to upgrade.