macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Syncretic]

Had exactly the same problems. Then remembered to have read somewhere of apparent differences between "amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1" and "...=1". Edited the config plist to the latter - and from then on it worked and boots beta 7 with latest OS.dmg.
Not sure if this was "placebo" or not. Pls try and report back...

Unless Ventura changed how boot-args are parsed (I haven't looked), it's a placebo.

[EDIT for clarity: there should be no difference between "amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1" and "amfi_get_out_of_my_way=1"; I'm not suggesting that adding "amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1" is a placebo.]

 

[Larsvonhier]

Unless Ventura changed how boot-args are parsed (I haven't looked), it's a placebo.

Have not believed in it either, but nothing else helped to boot b7 on my MP3,1.
Perhaps rather related to the overall length of boot args (saves 2 byte string length to parse with all the other arguments and stuff)?
Let´s see what @idenis42 finds.

 

[Sven G]

I, too, had the “no boot” problem, after having updated OCLP to the latest nightly alpha (the one where SIP is raised to 0x803 for root patching): I had to manually add amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1 to the boot args in the config.plist file (this time, that parameter hadn’t been added automatically by the OCLP installer), in order to be able to boot the Ventura system: probably, only a temporary glitch, for these recent builds, which seem to have dropped disabling AMFI (good; and it’s also positive that SIP is now more enabled than before)…

 

[idenis42]

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[kocoman]

does the radeon rx 6xxx work? need avx2 (hard codeded complied in) to work for ivy bridge? i want to drive 4k display for basic youtube video only.. thx

 

[binarysmurf]

Asking a question just for my clarity... If the current 0.5.0 build is telling me that my model is supported (iMac 13,2) then there is a good chance that Ventura's current beta will install and run via an external SSD on my machine?

 

[Larsvonhier]

Asking a question just for my clarity... If the current 0.5.0 build is telling me that my model is supported (iMac 13,2) then there is a good chance that Ventura's current beta will install and run via an external SSD on my machine?

Seems to be ivy bridge with GTX Nvidia GPU, so no, won´t run out of the box (vanilla). OCLP checks based on your OS actually running, so probably Monterey in your case. That´s why it outputs "natively supported".

 

[eternalpeasant]

I presume 6,1 Mac Pro’s won’t be supported

 

[hvds]

Once again - tried macOS 13.0 beta 6 on MBP5,2 mid 2009. The Rosetta library still does the job to enable a bootable system on non-AVX machines.
This time had to download the IPSW file for beta 6 (UniversalMac_13.0_22A5331f_Restore) via my developer account as MrMacintosh says. Put into place on the external target SSD while booted from the internal 12.5.1.
Using the latest OCLP ventura alpha 0.5.0 which contains the changes for KDK-less, which should matter only for post install patches.
A few window server crashes, needed to do a PRAM reset, and to use external mouse/keyboard as usual for Ventura tests on this machine. No post install patches exist, i.e. no graphics acceleration etc: just a non-AVX test. Still able to write this in Safari 16.1 on 13.0b6.

Same procedure and result with 13.0b7. OCLP 0.5.0n from 13Sept used.
A few WS crashes, esp. during 1st login after 1st boot. Not surprising, one of the crash logs attached.
Writing with Safari 16.1 on my MBP5,2. No graphics accel of course, but still amazing.

Thanks OCLP team and all contributors.

 

[Larsvonhier]

I presume 6,1 Mac Pro’s won’t be supported

Nope, but thas has been clear from day one on - even if this is hard to accept for machines still sold in 2019.
We´ll be lucky should we get OCLP support (without further tinkering) and metal patches for Ventura on it.

 

[speedy776]

Maybe you can help me... I get this error message when I open the photos App. I have a 17,1 Mac with the latest alpha OCLP on Ventura. All other thinks working fine.

 

[eternalpeasant]

Nope, but thas has been clear from day one on - even if this is hard to accept for machines still sold in 2019.
We´ll be lucky should we get OCLP support (without further tinkering) and metal patches for Ventura on it.

Missed out this but damn

 

[hvds]

Maybe you can help me... I get this error message when I open the photos App. I have a 17,1 Mac with the latest alpha OCLP on Ventura. All other thinks working fine.

Had this Photos crash in Monterey betas more than a year ago on (non-metal) MBP5,2, see #820 . It went away with a release of Monterey. Not sure it will this time as apps rely more and more on Metal explicitely (but I may be completely wrong as I don't know about your mac model).
Maybe try to use an earlier version of Photos (7 not 8)?

 

[speedy776]

Had this Photos crash in Monterey betas more than a year ago on (non-metal) MBP5,2, see #820 . It went away with a release of Monterey. Not sure it will this time as apps rely more and more on Metal explicitely (but I may be completely wrong as I don't know about your mac model).
Maybe try to use an earlier version of Photos (7 not 8)?

Thanks for your answer... how can I get an earlier version? I think it's a graphic problem but I don't know why. Every solution is welcome

 

[Sven G]

Tried tonight’s OCLP 0.5.0 alpha, and my MBP11,3 still refuses to boot Ventura b7 from an external Thunderbolt SSD, with the progress bar halting halfway: only editing the configuration file (se previous post: with AMFI “off”, as in older builds) restores booting. So, it looks like support for AMFI being “on” is still work in progress, in these days (which is also obvious from the changelog, where it isn’t yet mentioned): but eventually, of course, it will work…

 

[perez987]

Maybe you can help me... I get this error message when I open the photos App. I have a 17,1 Mac with the latest alpha OCLP on Ventura. All other thinks working fine.

Same as you. iMac17,1 spoofed as 18,3. Developers have this as an issue of 0.5.0 alpha. I have read in OCLP GitHub that the issue is solved a few builds ago but my Photos crash although I have last compiled OCLP-Patcher.

Photo's App won't open / Non-Functional / Intel Broadwell and Skylake iGPUs / Resolved with c064269

Go to Graphics Acceleration.

 

[yahgoo]

Hi to everyone who update to Ventura, I already has Ventura in my 2 Hackintoshes One 10 generation I5 10400F with Gigabyte B560M-H working everything OOB with a Dongle Bluetooth and AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB with full acceleration.

Another Laptop Acer Aspire ES1-572 i5 6200u with Intel HD Graphics 520 with a patch in Opencore 0.8.4 to get acceleration and now runs as metal 3. Appers in system as Intel HD Graphics 620 (spoofed in OpenCore as 1659000 (HD 620) Kabylake). Working everything including SD Card Reader, Bluetooth and WiFi with an BCM94360CD OOB. Running Ventura Beta 4 smooth and perfect (SSD 240GB) Kingston.

Now here the issue...

I had an MacBook Pro Retina Early 2015, who is unsupported to Ventura 13 (Broadwell). I made an Ventura Pen Drive with OpenCore Legacy Support (OpenCore 0.8.3) and changed the SMBIOS of my MacbookPro12,1 to MacbookPro14,1 (2017), install was perfect, everything working but without acceleration support (Intel Iris Graphics 6100 (Broadwell).
I already done everything spoofed 162B0000 to every Kabylake IGPU's and nothing works. Than I had an idea of use my AppleIntelBDWGraphics.kext from Monterey 12.5 and the rest of kexts like Framebuffer and bundle's, set csr-active-config to 02080000 (Root disabled) and use command line snapshot Mounter V2 to install these kext's in /S/L/E of Ventura 13 Beta 4. Works with my Intel Iris Graphics, get acceleration but System hangs and never start's keep looping in boot. Then I changed the info.plist of AppleIntelKBLGraphics.kext and add 0x162B8086 (Intel Iris Graphics 6100). The System not load the kext at all (Both files AppleIntelKBLGraphicsFrameBuffer.kext too. There is anyone who get's acceleration with this IGPU?

Link to Monterey 12.5 AppleIntelBDWGraphics.kext and FrameBuffer + Bundles
Monterey´s 12.5 Kext´s and Bundles of Intel Iris Graphics 6100

I'm losing my fate in get this working.

Pictures of my About This Mac and System Info (Graphics and Monitor).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10jedLfkrsv8t-fkQ4juhxqYafNIlC2yM/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iH6dFA2-tm0rMdsCtnmwwecy5fIvRYvX/view?usp=sharing

More information about kext's policies in Ventura and Metal Support.
https://github.com/khronokernel/khr...-metal/_posts/2022-08-01-2022-LEGACY-METAL.md

This Article says that Skylake Metal support is not working, but you can do a Spoof in Intel HD Graphics as an Kabylake device to work this out. My Acer is an Skylake and works everything except for the Intel HD Graphics 520 that.i spoofed to Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kabylake) device-id (16590000) in OpenCore 0.8.4 from OpenCore Legacy Patcher 0.4.9. Now my Skylake iGPU is fully accelerated and show as Metal 3 device (Intel HD Graphics 620).
If anyone has a solution for this, please share.
Ventura 13 beta 4.

I genSMBIOS my HP840G3 to MacBookPro14,1 on Monterey 12.3? I tried many ways eg hackintool to generrate frame buffer patching to spoof HD520 to HD530 but to no avail? Please explain how did you spoof with OCLP?

 

[Sanmiguel71]

Maybe you can help me... I get this error message when I open the photos App. I have a 17,1 Mac with the latest alpha OCLP on Ventura. All other thinks working fine.

Exact same for me here, iMac17,1, latest OCLP from today/yesterday. With new root patches and new built and installed OCLP...

I guess we need to wait for a new nightly...

 

[fernando.c.neves]

Here the link for Kernel Debug Kit 13.0 22A5342F.

https://download.developer.apple.co...342f/Kernel_Debug_Kit_13.0_build_22A5342f.dmg

Kernel Debug Kit 13.0 build 22A5342f​

September 14, 2022

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This package contains development & debug versions of the macOS kernel and many I/O Kit families for use with LLDB remote (two-machine) kernel debugging. These files contain full symbolic information, unlike the equivalent files in a normal macOS installation. Also included are LLDB macros useful for kernel debugging and DEVELOPMENT (for every day use) and DEBUG (for much more error checking) kernels built with more assertions and fewer compiler optimizations.

• 568.57 MB

 

[Larsvonhier]

I genSMBIOS my HP840G3 to MacBookPro14,1 on Monterey 12.3? I tried many ways eg hackintool to generrate frame buffer patching to spoof HD520 to HD530 but to no avail? Please explain how did you spoof with OCLP?

Again, this is not a hackintosh thread, pls. move your question to appropriate thread. Thx.

 

[Sven G]

Some good news: OpenCL in Photoshop works again in Ventura, also for the Nvidia Kepler dGPU, with the latest OCLP alpha nightly (excellent)…! BTW, I also noticed a slightly different behaviour in Acronis Cyber Protect Home Office: now, when Preferences… is clicked in the app menu, a spinning beachball briefly appears, as if it attempted to do something (previously, nothing happened); sadly, the Preferences window still won’t appear, on my MBP11,3, both in Ventura and Monterey: who knows what could cause this strange glitch (and other similar ones, in the same app)…?

 

[K two]

Some good news: OpenCL in Photoshop works again in Ventura, also for the Nvidia Kepler dGPU, with the latest OCLP alpha nightly (excellent)…! BTW, I also noticed a slightly different behaviour in Acronis Cyber Protect Home Office: now, when Preferences… is clicked in the app menu, a spinning beachball briefly appears, as if it attempted to do something (previously, nothing happened); sadly, the Preferences window still won’t appear, on my MBP11,3, both in Ventura and Monterey: who knows what could cause this strange glitch (and other similar ones, in the same app)…?

Have you contacted https://www.acronis.com/ regarding your issue(s)?

 

[TOM1211]

Some good news: OpenCL in Photoshop works again in Ventura, also for the Nvidia Kepler dGPU, with the latest OCLP alpha nightly (excellent)…! BTW, I also noticed a slightly different behaviour in Acronis Cyber Protect Home Office: now, when Preferences… is clicked in the app menu, a spinning beachball briefly appears, as if it attempted to do something (previously, nothing happened); sadly, the Preferences window still won’t appear, on my MBP11,3, both in Ventura and Monterey: who knows what could cause this strange glitch (and other similar ones, in the same app)…?

Have you had the problem of menu bar disappearing ? Problem seems to be from a forced shutdown?

 

[Sven G]

^^^ No, no problems with the menu bar, here. (As for Acronis, as it worked normally in Big Sur and also works in Monterey on a non-root patched MBP11,1, I wondered if the window glitches in Monterey and Ventura on the MBP11,3 had something to do with the root patching or the partly broken OpenCL; of course, I cannot really expect to get support from the vendor, on an unsupported configuration. Well, I’ll just have to wait and see what happens: anyway, it’s not an essential program (got it once “discount-bundled“ with Parallels)…)

 

[kocoman]

Just FYI (but probably already known by the developers): the latest Photoshop reports the Kepler dGPU of my MBP11,3 (KDK-less root patched for Intel iGPU and Nvidia dGPU, on an external SSD for experimenting with Ventura, with the latest alpha OCLP 0.5.0) as partially unsupported: so, it looks like currently it has no OpenCL support in Ventura (while in Monterey it passes all checks, OpenCL included); let’s hope that all this can be fixed in a future OCLP release…

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