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Yes. See post 252, screenshot of the sneak peak announcement.
BT&Wifi does not run before proper patches at work (tried myself on the trash can). Stay tuned...
Thanks a lot.
But ..how do I get through? "Access to this site has been restricted" What did i miss?
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It's a miracle - the door opened. Thank You very much.
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I cringe when I stumble upon some of my older posts (and even some of my most recent posts). Glad I'm not the only one! 😂
I don’t mean any disrespect at all to the developers of this project.. .my problem has been the lack of being able to test there modifications they’ve been working on to get sonoma running….if they wanna password protect there fixes thats up to them I have decided to take it on myself for those who don’t wanna wait and patch a few things to get it up and running. I have modified olcp to suit my needs.
-Patched WiFi and Bluetooth for Mac Pro 6,1….5,1 and 4,1. Issues with speedtstep where addressed in prior build of open core I thank the dev who fixed the speedstep issues for 6,1 I have implemented it as well with few extra modifications to make the system run little cooler as I kept getting mds high usage after Sonoma install. Currently I only have access to these three machines and the efi MAY work on other systems but it has NOT BEEN TESTED!
- Fixed Issues -
-WiFi and Bluetooth stack patched(no airdrop I’m still investigating)
-Additional patches to address memory issues and higher cpu usage…should now readjust based on task and seeing 10c temp decrease on average.
-Fixed desktop rendering issues where (Green screen) by patching IOSurface ABI and finder.
-completely removed the dev teams work around for usb 1 and 2 devices(you no longer need a usb hub to install and go through setup.
….older Radeon and older Nvidia chipsets that the dev team managed to get working has also been stripped from my release my viewpoint is at this point you NEED a metal compatible GPU….if you don’t have it.. .don’t upgrade. Devs don’t agree with me and that’s perfectly fine which is why this project is open source.
Last but not least I developed a small application that will allow you to customize the opencore menus at startup. I’m sure there are other bugs but I’ve been working on this for the last few days. I use to dev for apples pro application team before it was outsourced to Europe(Final Cut, logic etc) and worked for logic prior to apple acquiring the company….any fixes or modification’s Ive made will written up and sent to the devs. ****this is allphhaaaa stage and and I’m not responsible for bricked systems….you try at your own risk**** uploading efi now…you will have to understand some basics to install the efi folder by mounting efi partition cause I’m a lazy sack a poo and haven’t made an installer yet…plan on doing that in the next few days. Have a good day everyone
-Patched WiFi and Bluetooth for Mac Pro 6,1….5,1 and 4,1. Issues with speedtstep where addressed in prior build of open core I thank the dev who fixed the speedstep issues for 6,1 I have implemented it as well with few extra modifications to make the system run little cooler as I kept getting mds high usage after Sonoma install. Currently I only have access to these three machines and the efi MAY work on other systems but it has NOT BEEN TESTED!
- Fixed Issues -
-WiFi and Bluetooth stack patched(no airdrop I’m still investigating)
-Additional patches to address memory issues and higher cpu usage…should now readjust based on task and seeing 10c temp decrease on average.
-Fixed desktop rendering issues where (Green screen) by patching IOSurface ABI and finder.
-completely removed the dev teams work around for usb 1 and 2 devices(you no longer need a usb hub to install and go through setup.
….older Radeon and older Nvidia chipsets that the dev team managed to get working has also been stripped from my release my viewpoint is at this point you NEED a metal compatible GPU….if you don’t have it.. .don’t upgrade. Devs don’t agree with me and that’s perfectly fine which is why this project is open source.
Last but not least I developed a small application that will allow you to customize the opencore menus at startup. I’m sure there are other bugs but I’ve been working on this for the last few days. I use to dev for apples pro application team before it was outsourced to Europe(Final Cut, logic etc) and worked for logic prior to apple acquiring the company….any fixes or modification’s Ive made will written up and sent to the devs. ****this is allphhaaaa stage and and I’m not responsible for bricked systems….you try at your own risk**** uploading efi now…you will have to understand some basics to install the efi folder by mounting efi partition cause I’m a lazy sack a poo and haven’t made an installer yet…plan on doing that in the next few days. Have a good day everyone
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Thank you good sir I appreciate you sending me this morning to try. It’s been working great….did have to restart though after Mac Pro went to sleep to get WiFi back but other than that has been working great. Thank you!I don’t mean any disrespect at all to the developers of this project.. .my problem has been the lack of being able to test there modifications they’ve been working on to get sanoma running….if they wanna password protect there fixes thats up to them I have decided to take it on myself for those who don’t wanna wait and patch a few things to get it up and running. I have modified olcp to suit my needs.
-Patched WiFi and Bluetooth for Mac Pro 6,1….5,1 and 4,1. Issues with speedtstep where addressed in prior build of open core I thank the dev who fixed the speedstep issues for 6,1 I have implemented it as well with few extra modifications to make the system run little cooler as I kept getting mds high usage after Sanoma install. Currently I only have access to these three machines and the efi MAY work on other systems but it has NOT BEEN TESTED!
- Fixed Issues -
-WiFi and Bluetooth stack patched(no airdrop I’m still investigating)
-Additional patches to address memory issues and higher cpu usage…should now readjust based on task and seeing 10c temp decrease on average.
-Fixed desktop rendering issues where (Green screen) by patching IOSurface ABI and finder.
-completely removed the dev teams work around for usb 1 and 2 devices(you no longer need a usb hub to install and go through setup.
….older Radeon and older Nvidia chipsets that the dev team managed to get working has also been stripped from my release my viewpoint is at this point you NEED a metal compatible GPU….if you don’t have it.. .don’t upgrade. Devs don’t agree with me and that’s perfectly fine which is why this project is open source.
Last but not least I developed a small application that will allow you to customize the opencore menus at startup. I’m sure there are other bugs but I’ve been working on this for the last few days. I use to dev for apples pro application team before it was outsourced to Europe(Final Cut, logic etc) and worked for logic prior to apple acquiring the company….any fixes or modification’s Ive made will written up and sent to the devs. ****this is allphhaaaa stage and and I’m not responsible for bricked systems….you try at your own risk**** uploading efi now…you will have to understand some basics to install the efi folder by mounting efi partition cause I’m a lazy sack a poo and haven’t made an installer yet…plan on doing that in the next few days. Have a good day everyone
Im looking at that tonight I think it has something to do with the lowlevel patch I implemented for finder….can you send me your analytics data and a screenshot of console?
Yay my WiFi’s working now on my MacBook Pro 2011 but there’s no acceleration any way to get the translucent menu bar?I don’t mean any disrespect at all to the developers of this project.. .my problem has been the lack of being able to test there modifications they’ve been working on to get sonoma running….if they wanna password protect there fixes thats up to them I have decided to take it on myself for those who don’t wanna wait and patch a few things to get it up and running. I have modified olcp to suit my needs.
-Patched WiFi and Bluetooth for Mac Pro 6,1….5,1 and 4,1. Issues with speedtstep where addressed in prior build of open core I thank the dev who fixed the speedstep issues for 6,1 I have implemented it as well with few extra modifications to make the system run little cooler as I kept getting mds high usage after Sonoma install. Currently I only have access to these three machines and the efi MAY work on other systems but it has NOT BEEN TESTED!
- Fixed Issues -
-WiFi and Bluetooth stack patched(no airdrop I’m still investigating)
-Additional patches to address memory issues and higher cpu usage…should now readjust based on task and seeing 10c temp decrease on average.
-Fixed desktop rendering issues where (Green screen) by patching IOSurface ABI and finder.
-completely removed the dev teams work around for usb 1 and 2 devices(you no longer need a usb hub to install and go through setup.
….older Radeon and older Nvidia chipsets that the dev team managed to get working has also been stripped from my release my viewpoint is at this point you NEED a metal compatible GPU….if you don’t have it.. .don’t upgrade. Devs don’t agree with me and that’s perfectly fine which is why this project is open source.
Last but not least I developed a small application that will allow you to customize the opencore menus at startup. I’m sure there are other bugs but I’ve been working on this for the last few days. I use to dev for apples pro application team before it was outsourced to Europe(Final Cut, logic etc) and worked for logic prior to apple acquiring the company….any fixes or modification’s Ive made will written up and sent to the devs. ****this is allphhaaaa stage and and I’m not responsible for bricked systems….you try at your own risk**** uploading efi now…you will have to understand some basics to install the efi folder by mounting efi partition cause I’m a lazy sack a poo and haven’t made an installer yet…plan on doing that in the next few days. Have a good day everyone
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Like I said in my post I have completely stripped any cards that DO NOT support metal….this is where the dev team and I disagree. If you don’t have a metal gpu you should not be upgrading…vast majority of people that come to the forums are people not technically inclined(no offense majority know what there doing but there’s those few that don’t read) and saw this project on YouTube or some other platform and they read the first paragraph and jump in to install…I whole heartily think it’s time to let none metal gpu support die. Big Sur and Montaray still have about a year and two years of updates. It’s been a good run but it’s time to sunset and move forward!!!! I think if the devs can get it working somewhat decent without the annoying glitches with screen resolution changes all gargled up and the anomalies then fine but I don’t believe in investing anymore time in none metal support it should’ve ended a while ago. Metal has been supported on all Mac’s since 2013….
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Is there any progress in making the 3802 metal GPUs working yet?
where's the repo?I don’t mean any disrespect at all to the developers of this project.. .my problem has been the lack of being able to test there modifications they’ve been working on to get sonoma running….if they wanna password protect there fixes thats up to them I have decided to take it on myself for those who don’t wanna wait and patch a few things to get it up and running. I have modified olcp to suit my needs.
-Patched WiFi and Bluetooth for Mac Pro 6,1….5,1 and 4,1. Issues with speedtstep where addressed in prior build of open core I thank the dev who fixed the speedstep issues for 6,1 I have implemented it as well with few extra modifications to make the system run little cooler as I kept getting mds high usage after Sonoma install. Currently I only have access to these three machines and the efi MAY work on other systems but it has NOT BEEN TESTED!
- Fixed Issues -
-WiFi and Bluetooth stack patched(no airdrop I’m still investigating)
-Additional patches to address memory issues and higher cpu usage…should now readjust based on task and seeing 10c temp decrease on average.
-Fixed desktop rendering issues where (Green screen) by patching IOSurface ABI and finder.
-completely removed the dev teams work around for usb 1 and 2 devices(you no longer need a usb hub to install and go through setup.
….older Radeon and older Nvidia chipsets that the dev team managed to get working has also been stripped from my release my viewpoint is at this point you NEED a metal compatible GPU….if you don’t have it.. .don’t upgrade. Devs don’t agree with me and that’s perfectly fine which is why this project is open source.
Last but not least I developed a small application that will allow you to customize the opencore menus at startup. I’m sure there are other bugs but I’ve been working on this for the last few days. I use to dev for apples pro application team before it was outsourced to Europe(Final Cut, logic etc) and worked for logic prior to apple acquiring the company….any fixes or modification’s Ive made will written up and sent to the devs. ****this is allphhaaaa stage and and I’m not responsible for bricked systems….you try at your own risk**** uploading efi now…you will have to understand some basics to install the efi folder by mounting efi partition cause I’m a lazy sack a poo and haven’t made an installer yet…plan on doing that in the next few days. Have a good day everyone
sounds like you've taken some of Edu's fixes (wifi, bluetooth, IOSurface downgrades), thrown in some jargon (Finder doesn't even draw the desktop... the Dock does), and outright fabricated USB fixes.
by any chance, did you also fix Ventura non-Metal (primarily a userspace problem) by downgrading the kernel to an earlier beta? 🤦🏻♀️
please back up these claims or quit spreading misinformation.
It is comments like these that make it clear to the people working on OCLP that you do mean disrespect to the developers and members of the DortaniaInternal program.
The reason the patches are now password protected is to prevent people from breaking their installs and asking why it didn't work, which takes time away from actually doing something useful. By you willingly acknowledging this, and willingly saying "Well I'm going to go around it", you are helping others to do the same.
The patches are also password protected because, when combined, the hardware that is needed to test is available to the members of the DortaniaInternal program. There does not need to be any outside testing done, if there is any testing that needs to be done outside of these members, it will be made known.
Currently, that is not the case.
I will say this again, not just to you but to everyone in this thread - no one outside of this program needs Sonoma. "Wow, it's the newest beta of macOS" is not a good enough reason for you to be risking your installations on an unsupported machine. Developer betas are designed for developer testing - which can also be done in a virtual machine. Sure, it's nice to test, but the way this thread has been going - and the way the Ventura one went last year - puts too much of a strain on the developers.
Don't want to wait? Then get a supported Mac.
1st-post housekeeping suggestion: can we get rid of the vague and optimism inducing "List of officially unsupported machines that have shown Sonoma booting ability to some degree" section?
Maybe replace it with a "Known issues" section?
For example:
Patch Progress on known issues:
Wireless Support: Alpha - Not yet ready for public beta.
UI Corruption: Alpha - Not yet ready for public beta.
Broadwell/Skylake kernel panics: Alpha - Short term fix only. Sustainable long-term fix TBD.
Ivy Bridge/Haswell/Kepler: Significant work required. 6+ months.
Non-Metal: Basic framebuffers work. Unknown if graphic acceleration will be possible.
Maybe replace it with a "Known issues" section?
For example:
| Model | GPU Support | WiFi Supported | Other Issues |
| MacBook10,1 MacBookPro14,x iMac18,x | YES | No | |
| MacPro6,1 iMac17,1 iMac16,2 iMac15,1 | UI/Background Corruption | No | |
| MacBook9,1 MacBook8,1 MacBookAir7,x MacBookPro13,x MacBookPro12,1 | UI/Background Corruption iGPU prone to kernel panics | No | |
| MacBookPro11,5 | iGPU not supported | No | |
| iMac11,x* iMac12,x* MacPro5,1* MacPro4,1* MacPro3,1* | *Depends on GPU upgrade. GCN4+: supported natively GCN1-3: UI Corruption Keplar/Pre-Metal: no acceleration | No | |
| IvyBridge GPUs Haswell GPUs Kepler GPUs | FrameBuffer only at best No Acceleration | N/A | |
| Pre-Metal | FrameBuffer only at best No Acceleration | No |
Patch Progress on known issues:
Wireless Support: Alpha - Not yet ready for public beta.
UI Corruption: Alpha - Not yet ready for public beta.
Broadwell/Skylake kernel panics: Alpha - Short term fix only. Sustainable long-term fix TBD.
Ivy Bridge/Haswell/Kepler: Significant work required. 6+ months.
Non-Metal: Basic framebuffers work. Unknown if graphic acceleration will be possible.
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I have booted a Mac Pro 5,1 with Kepler GPU and just Framebuffer support.
So that line is not correct in every case.
So that line is not correct in every case.
Good info! That’s not something I knew from the first post or the OCLS wiki. Any other examples of stuff working or known issues?
THREE years minimum. These constant full updates that scramble features all over the place, drop random hardware from support, without any warning, and no way to even guess, is stressful as hell and burning up all the goodwill Apple has left from its customers. I'm starting to feel like sorority girls are running marketing.
So cool to see dosdude1 as a top contributor on there. That guy was the original OCLP!At last the Open Core Legacy Patcher Team accepts donations. Please be generous, they have saved a lot of money to so many people.
OpenCore Legacy Patcher - Open Collective
Open source project dedicated to getting older Macs running newer versions of macOS.opencollective.com
I didn´t see visible differences in the spoilers form previous macOS versions, thought Sonoma is basically BigSur/Catalina improved stuff. My doubt is about the performance of Sonoma in my Macbook Pro mid 2012 with fast 16GB of RAM and Mercury (I use to jump over versions). I guess I will discover by myself, I am already saving space in the SDD to try a bet version.
Anybody have some performance feedback?
Anybody have some performance feedback?
If you have 16GB RAM, I'm pretty sure it's going to go great. My old 2011 MBA with only 4GB RAM is fine and much quicker than when it was on the the last officially Apple blessed version of OSX was. I suspect the machine was deliberately slowed by Apple with the last OSX they infected it with.
Only in the say way that Big Sur is basically improved High Sierra. At the moment 2012s run much slower. (No graphical acceleration). The developers say patching that will be extremely difficult. Possibly 6+ months of effort.
I have an older MacMini that was running terribly the macOS, flooding memory (4GB). I decided to leave only Linux Mint on it, and I strongly advice this solution. These macs prior Metal can be very usefull with Linux, you can do some work, watch streaming, but macOS will be demanding and will limit the experience. Just a suggestion for you.
Big Sur won´t run 32 bit apps and other resources that High Sierra does. Well, without graphic acceleration there is no point in to migrate, I will wait. Also, I need a fresh new install cuz have some issues in my user accumulated in a lot of upgrades, Safari won´t run for me (only new user). Thanks for the tip.
Out of curiosity: Is spotlight still as bad as it was in the previous versions? You look for movie files and it shows you pictures instead? Can you at least set the preferred search results order nowadays? It searches the internet instead of your local files?
Upgrading to Sonoma, where new screensavers are the main feature, doesn't seem very convincing argument to me. Or is it? And what about Siri, any note worthy improvements there?
Upgrading to Sonoma, where new screensavers are the main feature, doesn't seem very convincing argument to me. Or is it? And what about Siri, any note worthy improvements there?
