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I don't go anywhere without my KDK, but that's probably just me.
Background: I have a Late 2014 iMac (Model 15,1). It originally came with a 3TB Fusion drive but the fusion drive was failing several years ago. I replaced the Fusion Drive with a Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, which also left 128GB Apple SSD drive when the 3TB Hard Drive was removed.
So I have two internal SSD drives, 1TB & 128GB. On the 1TB is loaded Ventura 13.6.1 w/OCLP 1.2.0 everything works well, except when I boot having devices connected to the USB ports. Upon boot, I get the Login screen but do not have control of Bluetooth mouse or keyboard. This is also true when I connect a wired keyboard with the other USB ports occupied with (WD 4TB Time Machine Drive, 4K/BluRay/DVD/CD Rom Drive, and UPS Backup connection. The way I get around this is to power down the iMac via the physical power button, then disconnect all USB ports and reboot. Upon reboot (with no USB connections), it boots to the Login screen, and I have access to my keyboard and mouse. Another interesting observation is the only USB device I can leave connected is my thumb drive (with Sonoma 14.1.1 & OCLP 1.2.0) while booting and still have keyboard and mouse connections at the Login screen.
On the Apple 128GB, which I’m using as a test drive for Sonoma 14.1.1 & OCLP 1.2.0, the same thing occurs while having the iMac USB ports being connected – no access to mouse or keyboard. The same work around as above gives me keyboard and mouse control.
Using SlientKnight, I found out that my EFI firmware is not what is expected. How do I update the EFI firmware? The latest valid macOS for my iMac is Big Sur 11.7.10. Do I need to install this macOS version to obtain the latest EFI firmware? Is there easier way to update the EFI firmware for my iMac? Will the firmware update help solve the USB issue I described above? Any help will be greatly appreciated!
To the OCLP Developers – thank you for your time and effort.
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It's from Apple and contains a lot of necessary kexts for debugging.
From ChatGPT:
The KDK (Kernel Debug Kit) is a set of tools and resources provided by Apple for debugging the kernel of macOS, the operating system used on Mac computers. It is intended for developers and system administrators who need to diagnose and troubleshoot low-level issues in the macOS kernel. Here are some situations where you might need the KDK:
- Kernel-level Debugging: If you are developing software that interacts with the macOS kernel, such as device drivers or other low-level system software, the KDK can help you debug and analyze issues at the kernel level.
- Kernel Extensions: If you are creating kernel extensions (KEXTs) for macOS, which are used to add functionality to the kernel, the KDK can be essential for debugging and ensuring the stability and compatibility of your extensions.
- Kernel Panics and Crashes: When the macOS kernel encounters a critical error, it may result in a kernel panic. The KDK provides tools to analyze kernel panic logs and diagnose the cause of the panic.
- Performance Optimization: If you are working on performance optimization for macOS, understanding how the kernel operates and interacts with your software is crucial. The KDK can help in profiling and optimizing kernel-related activities.
- Security Research: Security researchers may use the KDK to analyze and discover vulnerabilities or security issues at the kernel level. This is particularly important for identifying and addressing potential security risks.
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Updated 14.1 to 14.1.1 on a MacBook 10,1 (2017 12" MacBook) OTA. Worked fine. When the OS rebooted, the wifi wasn't working, but I figured that might happen, so I plugged in USB-C Ethernet adapter and OCLP popped up that it needed an update. Did that, then it wanted to update the root patches again. Did that, rebooted and now the machine is working just as well as it did on 14.0 and 14.1. Thanks again OCLP!
i only created the account 10 months ago and was just wondering how long the status would stay after 24 posts ;-) actually i've been developing on mac for 30 years and find newbie quite funny and it doesn't bother me either - thanks for your link ;-) and see you soon! It's absolutely amazing that my cheesegrater can live on with OCLP - I love it! All fine thanks rehkram.
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Same here: I mostly use it in clamshell mode with just the external display in use (Thunderbolt --> DisplayPort). When the issue happened, I opened gfxCardStatus to check the automatic switching that seemed regular. EFI firmware is also 429.0.0.0.
The issue mostly happened with the lid closed, so on the external monitor, when the lid was open didn't have any problems, but sometimes the glitch extended also to Music and Photos, and in that case the glitch occoured to the built-in display too.
Okay. Thanks for testing. Do you know which of the AMD GPUs I could use? The heatsink of my GPU has 2 pipes. I've read there are 2 variants of heatsinks for the 2010 iMac: one with 2 and one with 3 pipes. Since all "Mac" related used parts are crazily overpriced, I don't want to invest in a different heat sink.
Unfortunately I cannot answer that question...but acc. to my experience Ventura and Sonoma did not slow down the machines at all...so most probably it will provide same performance like with Big Sur....
So newer Macs are losing WiFi when updated to 14.1.1? I don’t have a USB adapter to Ethernet. Could the root patches be applied via USB?
Very strange. I guess you've checked your display resolutions and refresh rate are correct for the monitor? Many times after an update I have to mess with those settings. I run my Dell DisplayPort link at max res 2560 x 1600, 60 Hz, and the internal display Apple default res.
Here you have all the answers: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/
I already modded 4 diferent iMacs with diferent graphic cards and thank to this tutorial all are working like a dream.
This does not only affect newer macs in my experience, of course OCLP can be copied in Library/Application Support/ Dortania from USB and then executed, but if a KDK download is necessary, the Lan connection is important USB - Ethernet adapters should also work - in future and nightly versions the OCLP patcher gets the information that an update has been loaded and makes the necessary download beforehand if necessary. It's may be necessary to read the docu a little and also keep an eye on the OCLP changelog. Good luck.
Try to get the M5100/W5170M/M6000 (Venus) cards. The best card to get would be the WX4130 (Polaris GCN4). Recently iMac spare parts became really cheap, MXM graphics cards are a different story.
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Honestly, there are only two AMD GPU tables and and both tables contain exactly the information which card will fit onto which sink.
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Amazing work by the OCLP dev team with their current version 1.2.0. I updated my 15-inch MBP to OS 14.2 without issues. Mine is a dual graphics version . . .
Overall update process was uneventful once started. Then once the new OS booted you do the post install patches as usual and you're set. Does not get any easier than this. Well done to everyone who were involved with this amazing project!
Overall update process was uneventful once started. Then once the new OS booted you do the post install patches as usual and you're set. Does not get any easier than this. Well done to everyone who were involved with this amazing project!
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Root patches can be applied without an internet connection. Just run OCLP after reboot. In case you do need an internet connection, you could also use your iPhone as a hotspot via USB. With a viable data plan obviously.
I have the same iMac 15,1, except it wasa 1TB Fusion drive. I have a similar USB issue. With 4 USB 3 ports, I have one connected to a external sound system (speakers). If I have 1 external drive connected to the remaining 3 USB ports, everything works as expected, 1 external SSD and a wired keyboard OK, 2 SSD drives and everything gets wonky! I have the firmware that SilentKnight thinks is OK. So your USB situation may well be due to the firmware being old. Go to Mr. macintoshes site and download the Big Sur installer. Install it to a 512GB SSD and your firmware should be updated in the process (check with SilentKnight).
Big Sur is small, so a 64GB USB drive may well be enough for that purpose.
Updated my MBP11,1 to 14.1.1, OCLP 1.2.0, yesterday
Also updated iPhone SE 2 to 17.1.1 yesterday.
Paired the MBP successfully with a Bluetooth earphone, and plays music well.
Can't pair it with the iPhone or vice versa. iPhone sees the MBP sometimes, MBP can't see the iPhone.
iPhone can't see the earphone.
Looks more like a problem on the iOS side to me?
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When my Imac 13,2 late 2012 going on sleep mode occured a GPU Reset event in DiagnosticReprts folder and maybe this cause the missing icons on menu bar after wake up.
Details info:
Thu Nov 9 00:47:43 2023
Event: GPU Reset
Date/Time: Thu Nov 9 00:47:43 2023
Application:
Path:
Tailspin: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gpuRestart2023-11-09-004743.tailspin
GPUSubmission Trace ID: 0
OS Version: Mac OS X Version 14.1.1 (Build 23B81)
Graphics Hardware: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX
Signature: 28
Report Data:
NVDA(DMA): Channel exception! Exception type = 0x28 DMA Engine Error (CE Error 2)
Channel Info: [3, 0xc, 0xc, 0x1b1]
Version Info: [com.apple.GeForce, 16.0.0, 0x4e554e, 22469702, , 1]
ErrorDB Hash: [70ced8266b6e91e895714fe37e4dc1bd]
Resource Manager Info:
4443564e 000000cc 79922948 9a7f841d 00000001 00000014 d3793533 46d3a4a6
4614f297 e71edccf 00088301 00000098 12f2220a 081d0a1f 1002c1c0 20001810
30002800 2aa83800 04aaa840 00500048 00603b58 149a030a 820a0a00 02180713
01900250 923d0a01 380a3a13 00000024 0000000e 0000e001 00001549 00000001
00001249 00000000 00010447 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff
000000ff 13c2220a 1000081f 80a81800 200bf7b0 3028280c 50003803 97b39888
4002c4ab 00480280 4443564e
When my Imac 13,2 late 2012 going on sleep mode occured a GPU Reset event in DiagnosticReprts folder and maybe this cause the missing icons on menu bar after wake up.
Details info:
Thu Nov 9 00:47:43 2023
Event: GPU Reset
Date/Time: Thu Nov 9 00:47:43 2023
Application:
Path:
Tailspin: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gpuRestart2023-11-09-004743.tailspin
GPUSubmission Trace ID: 0
OS Version: Mac OS X Version 14.1.1 (Build 23B81)
Graphics Hardware: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX
Signature: 28
Report Data:
NVDA(DMA): Channel exception! Exception type = 0x28 DMA Engine Error (CE Error 2)
Channel Info: [3, 0xc, 0xc, 0x1b1]
Version Info: [com.apple.GeForce, 16.0.0, 0x4e554e, 22469702, , 1]
ErrorDB Hash: [70ced8266b6e91e895714fe37e4dc1bd]
Resource Manager Info:
4443564e 000000cc 79922948 9a7f841d 00000001 00000014 d3793533 46d3a4a6
4614f297 e71edccf 00088301 00000098 12f2220a 081d0a1f 1002c1c0 20001810
30002800 2aa83800 04aaa840 00500048 00603b58 149a030a 820a0a00 02180713
01900250 923d0a01 380a3a13 00000024 0000000e 0000e001 00001549 00000001
00001249 00000000 00010447 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff 000000ff
000000ff 13c2220a 1000081f 80a81800 200bf7b0 3028280c 50003803 97b39888
4002c4ab 00480280 4443564e
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It´s solved now
