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JoinMeinHeaven

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good evening everyone on my iMac 27" from 2010 which was running on SONOMA 14.3.0 and with the update to 14.3.1 it restarts and gets stuck at the boot gong in a loop with the screen remaining black.
I tried NVRAM, it remains the same black screen. what can I do to help me out? Thank you in advance for your response.
Sincerely
Boot in safe mode
 

JoinMeinHeaven

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@JoinMeinHeaven Here is a new video done with screenFlow vs qicktime. The recording is always slightly slower than what I see on screen and it's always been that way even when I recorded with a supported OS. Probably because of the Fusion drive vs a pure SSD.

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If you lower the resolution to 1152x720 you will notice that it is not as fluid as it is supposed to be. And it happens across all the other parts of the system
 

ElSooz

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Select the volume to boot from, hold down the shift key during initial phase of boot process. I had a similar problem with my late 2013 MBP 11,3 and the installation/upgrade process completed after that. I was using the 1/30 OCLP 1.4.0 (n) but 1.3 is probably the same.
 
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amaze1499

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The KDK for macOS 14.3.1 now available, here: https://github.com/dortania/KdkSupportPkg/releases Scroll down a bit. :cool:
Remember our little conversation about the whats min Ram specs are for modern MacOS'?

Just updated my Macbook 6,1 late 2009 using 4GB to Sonoma 14.3 using 1.4.0. It works reasonably well with performing mundane things like browsing the web, writing emails, notes calendar, printer server on the local network.

The actual bottle neck rather seems to be the processor and the 256mb GPU ram, given the numerous (sometimes unnecessary?) tasks running in the back ground. Swap is around 250mb after a few hours moderate usage while having 1 or 2 apps open.

Could you use it as a daily driver? Perhaps. Keyboard and Bluetooth are also working again with the latest OCLPn. That really begs the question: How often is hardware update actually necessary? I got too many iPhones, iPads and Macs lying around which are still working (well) with default OS. Thats a shame.
 

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Portiere

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Installed succesfully 14.3.1 on my mini late 2012 intenal Crucial main SSD partition.
With 14.4 beta after succesfull installation i can't root patch cause OCLP asks me admin privilegies password (OCLP not Sonoma) that i don't know
 
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Installed succesfully 14.3.1 on my mini late 2012 intenal Crucial main SSD partition.
With 14.4 beta after succesfull installation i can't root patch cause OCLP asks me admin privilegies password (OCLP not Sonoma) that i don't know
I think it's because all the admin users become standard users after installation of 14.4. They can't do anything, as patching the system with OCLP, and they can't create a new admin user. A system without admin user is useless.
 

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Remember our little conversation about the whats min Ram specs are for modern MacOS'?

Just updated my Macbook 6,1 late 2009 using 4GB to Sonoma 14.3 using 1.4.0. It works reasonably well with performing mundane things like browsing the web, writing emails, notes calendar, printer server on the local network.

The actual bottle neck rather seems to be the processor and the 256mb GPU ram, given the numerous (sometimes unnecessary?) tasks running in the back ground. Swap is around 250mb after a few hours moderate usage while having 1 or 2 apps open.

Could you use it as a daily driver? Perhaps. Keyboard and Bluetooth are also working again with the latest OCLPn. That really begs the question: How often is hardware update actually necessary? I got too many iPhones, iPads and Macs lying around which are still working (well) with default OS. Thats a shame.
Apparently, memory use is hardware and configuration dependent. This Mini7,1 is running the current Firefox with one tab open to this page, the CPU is idling at 1% and RAM use is well over 6 GB out of 16GB. Any comparison S/B based on somewhat equal Macs. 😉
mem use.jpg
 
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ponta pon pon

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MBP 15'retina late 2013 with Kepler (11,3) updated via OTA from 14.3 + OCLP 1.3.0 to 14.3.1 + OCLP 1.3.0 pswd key-in slow but work in login field then I did post-root-patch (without safe boot mode). After that MBP reboot normally and login OK.
 
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RogueB

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I think it's because all the admin users become standard users after installation of 14.4. They can't do anything, as patching the system with OCLP, and they can't create a new admin user. A system without admin user is useless.
I installed 14.4 beta2 on an iMac 13,2 via USB Thumb Drive. When I reached login screen, I had no problems entering administrative password, other than having to use a wired USB keyboard and mouse. Thereafter I took a chance and applied 1.4.0n OCLP patches. I also had no issue entering admin password when OCLP requested credentials. Once machine rebooted, after applying patches successfully, there was graphic acceleration, but Bluetooth, WiFi and Ethernet were not functional.
 
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RogueB

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Remember our little conversation about the whats min Ram specs are for modern MacOS'?

Just updated my Macbook 6,1 late 2009 using 4GB to Sonoma 14.3 using 1.4.0. It works reasonably well with performing mundane things like browsing the web, writing emails, notes calendar, printer server on the local network.

The actual bottle neck rather seems to be the processor and the 256mb GPU ram, given the numerous (sometimes unnecessary?) tasks running in the back ground. Swap is around 250mb after a few hours moderate usage while having 1 or 2 apps open.

Could you use it as a daily driver? Perhaps. Keyboard and Bluetooth are also working again with the latest OCLPn. That really begs the question: How often is hardware update actually necessary? I got too many iPhones, iPads and Macs lying around which are still working (well) with default OS. Thats a shame.
I have 17" MacBook Pro 5,2 with 8 GB RAM, C2D at 3.06 GHz, and a Samsung SSD.
It is a dual graphic card model, a 256 MB NVIDIA GE force 9400M (like yours) and a 500 MB NVIDIA GE for 9600M.
It run 14.3 without issues, at speeds compatible with "daily driver use", until I applied Sonoma 14.4 beta1, and then beta2 updates, just to push the envelope. It boots into login screen on beta2, but keyboard and trackpad are not functional, hence, I can't login to see if it actually would function. Hoping an OCLP version will help there, eventually.

The SSD is divided into 4 volumes, Sonoma, Ventura, Monterey and Catalina. The latter three are fully functional.

While I mainly use the MacBook Pro 5,2 as a "test bed", to see how long I can upgrade OS via OCLP, most applications run at speeds compatible with daily use. That includes GIMP (some versions still run on non-meta machines, albeit only at casual speeds), Libre Office and most Apple productivity application, with exception of Maps which requires metal capability.

I agree that many older Apple computers would function just fine with modern software, although I do recognize that there are limits dictated by the price of effort needed to maintain software compatibility, security requirements, etc.
 

rbart

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Apparently, memory use is hardware and configuration dependent. This Mini7,1 is running the current Firefox with one tab open to this page, the CPU is idling at 1% and RAM use is well over 6 GB out of 16GB. Any comparison S/B based on somewhat equal Macs. 😉
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You can’t compare memory usage between systems who don’t have the same amount of installed RAM.
macOS uses more memory when more memory is available, for caching or keeping alive some process or less compressing.
 
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Ready-for-Apple

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MBP11,2: macOS 14.3.1 + OCLP 1.4.0n ✅ – OTA-Update over 14.3.

Remove some kexts from /Library/Extensions before updating, else booting in normal mode will stall. Boot in safe mode in this case. - Then apply root patches and normal booting (and all the rest, wifi etc.) will work.
Haven't deleted the kexts and booting in normal mode was ✅


The (for me) slight disturbance of Photos crashing immediately when Memories clicked ("Rückblicke" in my German version) is still there.
Yes, still the same 😢 and no info about this from developers – also editing of portrait photos crashes app if clicking on edit button. More Info: https://discord.com/channels/417165963327176704/1192473370177064970
 

Calibre5

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How is 2012 iMac 27" on macOS Sonoma 14.3.1?
Hi, It's running really well on 14.3.1, with no discernible issues, upgraded OCLP to 1.4.0 Nightly, from 2 weeks ago, before starting the update.
I upgraded from 14.3 with OTA update of 13.37 GB as I didn't revert the boot patches.
 
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BuffyzDead

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Late 2009 iMac, 10,1
OTA Update from 14.3
Using Open Core Legacy Patcher v1.4.0n, and during update, a USB Keyboard and Mouse, connected via a USB 3.0 hub, with backwards compatablity.

After commencing OTA update, OCLP prompted the download & Installation of the required KDK.
Post install patches, and all working fine.
 

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