I don't know the details, but I have heard that Ventura caused a lot of headaches, and that comparatively, Sonoma was much easier for the developers of OCLP. I am sure that it wasn't easy, but they did get the final version of OCLP out in good time! I suspect that was in spite of Apple's strange ways. I have OCLP 1.1 running on my iMac 15,1 and it feels like a supported machine, very stable. Granted I do not do anything demanding on that computer, just word processing and net stuff using Brave. Monterey will get security updates until the end of next year, so why worry now? Who knows what the world will be like in 2024 anyway, considering the escalating events in Ukraine and Israel, it sure doesn't bode well!Valid point, I don't need Sonoma on the Mac Pro. But in a couple of years, Monterey browser and app support will start to break. I'd rather give it another two years of life!
Thanks for the 1.1 tip. I'm in no hurry so maybe I'll wait for the public release of 1.1 and give it another shot. Just seems weird I can get Monterey on there no problem. But I have been paying enough attention to understand that Ventura/Sonoma presented way more dev difficulties.
You should see and select the EFI icon when you start up holding the OPTION key down (Alt key is the equivalent on a Windows keyboard), the select the macOS USB installer.Hello, I am trying to install Sononma 14.0 on my CMP 3.1 (updated wifi and Vidéo card) with an installer on USB key made from OCLP 1.0.
The installer is well created, I restart on the USB key with the ALT key and launch the installation which starts... but it blocks on the first restart around 12 minutes and comes back to the recovery window all the time.
What did I miss? Thanks
Does Live Text work on iMac?Finally got around to doing it.
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I don't know either, but I suspect the "comparatively easy" Sonoma development was because the Devs had already tackled the hard stuff with Ventura (Wi-Fi excluded).I don't know the details, but I have heard that Ventura caused a lot of headaches, and that comparatively, Sonoma was much easier for the developers of OCLP.
I think Sonoma is not easier to patch than Ventura, but the most difficult step was to go from Monterey to Ventura.I don't know the details, but I have heard that Ventura caused a lot of headaches, and that comparatively, Sonoma was much easier for the developers of OCLP. I am sure that it wasn't easy, but they did get the final version of OCLP out in good time! I suspect that was in spite of Apple's strange ways. I have OCLP 1.1 running on my iMac 15,1 and it feels like a supported machine, very stable. Granted I do not do anything demanding on that computer, just word processing and net stuff using Brave. Monterey will get security updates until the end of next year, so why worry now? Who knows what the world will be like in 2024 anyway, considering the escalating events in Ukraine and Israel, it sure doesn't bode well!
From the "horse's mouth" here. We don't need to guess any more.I think Sonoma is not easier to patch than Ventura, but the most difficult step was to go from Monterey to Ventura.
The next step is probably lower, with less under the hood changes and similar patching methods
Hello hvds,Hello RogueB,
it looks to me that at least the first patching failure for your iMac 13,2 has to do with KDK not working correctly (this assumption can of course be wrong). The Python code which invokes KDK for rebuilding the kernel cache etc is on Github under resources/sys_patch/sys_patch.py lines 287 ff if I read it correctly.
Did the post-install patch try to load a KDK at all? (it should have used the one from 14.0b7 as closest match as the proper one for 14.0 release seems to be not yet there).
Maybe the problem goes away once the proper KDK is available and thus freshly loaded by the patcher.
Otherwise you could have a look at your /Library/Developer/KDKs and delete the KDK... folders which are in there, to force the patcher to freshly load whatever KDK seems appropriate.
I'm not sure I've seen this error before, but could be, in the early days of KDK usage by the patcher.
And if they didn't they do now.Finally, everyone(?) on this forum knows the risks of utilizing cutting edge "benevolent hacks" on our old machines.
You contradict yourself.I think Sonoma is not easier to patch than Ventura, but the most difficult step was to go from Monterey to Ventura.
The next step is probably lower, with less under the hood changes and similar patching methods
NoYou contradict yourself.
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BTW, is it safe now to do the OTA to 14.1b3
On the contrary, on my iMac 15,1, the beta 3 install gets a black screen with the white Apple symbol shining bright, and frozen. Had to bail out and reinstall 14.0 from a CCC backup, which was painless but took an hour. um....Beta3 OTA much the same as b2 OTA on the Mini7,1 via OCLPv1.0.1, rock solid!! 🥳
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Did you try this? From the terminal, and desktop of the target Mac, not in traget mode;I am still not able to change a Standard account, to an Admin account.
Recall, after updating a 2009 iMac from Monterey to Sonoma, using a OCLP v1.0.1 USB Key, ...the Admin account was somehow reverted to a Standard account. So I am simply not able to apply post install patches, which require an Admin password. And in General, I am not able to administrate this iMac.
I was able to use Target Disk Mode, and "I believe", successfully apply the OCLP v1.0.1 to the EFI of the Macintosh HD in that late 2009 iMac.
I believe this to be the case, since I can now boot the 2009 iMac without the USB Key, and directly off the EFI/Macintosh HD inside the 2009 iMac.
But again,
Attempt after attempt, to boot into Recovery Mode, still does not work.
Are there ANY Terminal Commands I can use from the Host MacBook Pro, targeting that now external Macintosh HD drive (while in Target Disk Mode), To ADD an Administration account to that iMac?
Know that I can see the entire file Structure of that iMac Macintosh HD, in the Finder, of the Host MacBook Pro.
Boot into any macOS other tha Sonoma - go to the Sonoma install in question> Library/Extensions ƒ, delete everything which begins with Apple, reboot and let the installation complete. OCLP will prompt to install Post-Install patches, do so and reboot as instructed.On the contrary, on my iMac 15,1, the beta 3 install gets a black screen with the white Apple symbol shining bright, and frozen. Had to bail out and reinstall 14.0 from a CCC backup, which was painless but took an hour. um....

What are you charging to certify our Macs with the official "Works on my machine" certificate of approval
My intent was to share, that I was fully aware what likely trouble I was getting into when I entered the world of OCLP.And if they didn't they do now.
Flagging myself for this OT post.
I tried it. The User (Dawn) has No Admin privileges. That is my issue.Did you try this? From the terminal, and desktop of the target Mac, not in traget mode;
cd /var/db/
and
rm .AppleSetupDone <--- note there is no s after Apple, as in your previous post.
You can also get to /var/db/ using the Go menu in Finder, Go to Folder ... /var/db/
TryI tried it. The User (Dawn) has No Admin privileges. That is my issue.
It is a Standard account from which I launch Terminal.
This is a copy and paste from Terminal:
Dawn@Dawns-iMac-21 ~ % cd /var/db/
Dawn@Dawns-iMac-21 db % rm .AppleSetupDone
override rw-r--r-- root/wheel for .AppleSetupDone? y
rm: .AppleSetupDone: Permission denied
Dawn@Dawns-iMac-21 db %
You see I entered the: cd /var/db/
Then I entered: rm .AppleSetupDone
and Terminal Returned with:
override rw-r--r-- root/wheel for .AppleSetupDone?
To which I answered with a y
Then Terminal returned with:
rm: .AppleSetupDone: Permission denied
Now what?