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macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

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Ausdauersportler said:
I have to assume this page is as irrelevant as the Ventura macOS claiming Polaris to support Metal 3, you can also check this list from the developer pages.

At least we can agree to find a lot of contradicting information, but I prefer developers documentation over marketing slides.
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I'm sorry, you're right.

Currently I have a problem with graphics on my iMac18.2 after installing Sonoma. The Retina display has a wrong resolution. Display marked as 14" not a 21.5". I'm currently trying to figure out how to fix this. (I hope OCLP 1.1 may fix this)

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My iMac 11,3 is having a similar problem. Camera is working fine in FaceTime, but in Photo Booth it is green.
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yes me too... to get the colors correctly with Photo Booth just open Photo Booth then FaceTime and the colors go back to normal from green, then close FaceTime
 
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Has anyone found and tested a USB Wi-Fi dongle that is supported by unpatched Sonoma? If so, are you able to provide a model number for it? Thank you.

EDIT: I have searched and see articles/posts about this. A credible recommendation from this thread would be more valuable to me. Thank you.

EDIT2: I do not need Bluetooth.
 
SPOKE TOO SOON: Took 35 hours for my Mac to crash with OCLP 1.1. Moving in the right direction though :)

UPDATE: Fixed for me now after updating to the nightly build 1.1. (NOT FIXED, see note above)

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Using the latest available version of OCLP 1.0.1 and updated my 2012 rMBP 15" to Sonoma which worked great. But now it ends up crashing at least once a day. Hoping that the next version of OCLP will fix that.

The only crashlog I can find starts with "medianalysisd..." Will paste the content below. Any ideas what this points to?

Anyone else experiencing this with OCLP 1.0.1 and macOS Sonoma? I wonder if it has to do with the eye candy in Sonoma, like the zoom in and out when you lock/unlock your Mac. Is there a way to turn this off? I already switched to a still wallpaper but it still happens. Thanks!
 
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deeveedee said:
Has anyone found and tested a USB Wi-Fi dongle that is supported by unpatched Sonoma? If so, are you able to provide a model number for it? Thank you.

EDIT: I have searched and see articles/posts about this. A credible recommendation from this thread would be more valuable to me. Thank you.

EDIT2: I do not need Bluetooth.
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Since we've already had this conversation in private, I will see what I can find, if you would like.
 
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MacinMan said:
Since we've already had this conversation in private, I will see what I can find, if you would like.
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We did? Did you recommend a USB to me? I don't recall. By the way, are we still on for dinner tomorrow?

Ok - flagging myself for that response. If you have tested recommendations, please post them publicly in this thread. Thank you.
 
deeveedee said:
We did? Did you recommend a USB to me? I don't recall. By the way, are we still on for dinner tomorrow?

Ok - flagging myself for that response. If you have tested recommendations, please post them publicly in this thread. Thank you.
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Remember, we had a conversation about your concerns about patching WiFi drivers, and I suggested people buy an adapter with up to date drives, and you felt that USB adapters weren't the answer. If you think it would be better to post suggestions here publicly I can do that, but I don't have any real solid suggestions yet, so that's why I sent you one in private for you to look at and determine if it would work for people here.
 
@MacinMan My bad. Didn't recall. Ok - I'm only asking for tested USB Wi-Fi that works with Sonoma without post-install patches. Bluetooth optional. And please feel free to answer publicly - I'm no longer embarrassed about my Wi-Fi preferences. Thank you!

BTW: I do remember answering a public Wi-Fi question where I suspected that a USB adapter with one of the legacy Brcm chipsets would still require OCLP patching (but I wasn't certain).

EDIT: I think the OT/need-a-new-thread pendulum has swung too far. A Wi-Fi alternative for unsupported Macs running Sonoma should be within this thread's scope.
 
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I've installed Sonoma on two of my three machines and noticed that it too crashed regularly. I also noticed thanks to MacFans (high Temperatures >70degC) and Stat bar that my CPU usuage was sky high 80-100% immediately following the upgrade.

So I boosted the fan to full. That kept the temperatures down to 50deg-ishC and once the CPU usage resolved after all the cataloging processes completed, the CPU usage settled better to about 15% maximum. The temperatures were still higher at about 48-51 degC compared to my pre upgrade 35-45degC average.

One thing I therefore can clearly say, upgrading to Sonoma does make the machine run warmer and could be cause of "crashes".
 
I now have Sonoma running on ALL my Macs, and not a single one of them is overheating or crashing.

Sonoma is running “natively” on my ’19 Mac Pro, ’19 Mac Mini, ’21 MacBook Pro, and my ’22 Mac Studio. I also installed Sonoma via OCLP 1.0.1 on my ’13 Mac Pro, ’14 MacBook Pro, and a ’17 MacBook. Only the ’14 MacBook Pro was a clean install, the rest were updates on top of Ventura installations with lots of software.

No issues…
 
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I'm grateful that I can use my Sonoma system (OCLP1.0.1 and macOS 14.1Beta2) equipped with a MacBook Pro retina 15' Late 2013 (11,3) almost smoothly every day.

Until a few days ago, I also noticed that when I started using this Mac every morning, I would experience kernel panics or system freezes.
After reading the System Report log, I guessed that it probably happens when dynamically changing the Mac's graphics settings for sleep.
Then I installed gSwitch.app and changed the setting from dynamic GPU switching to fixed to integrated or discrete GPU.
After that, the system no longer freezes and I can now use it with even more peace of mind.

I think this may be a workaround for the same case, so I am reporting it here for reference.

On the other hand, when connecting a camera using FaceTime.app or Photobooth.app, the built-in FaceTime HD no longer appears in the camera selection menu, but the iPhone camera is displayed, and when I select it, the iPhone shows that it is connected. However, the Mac monitor window remains completely black. This problem still remains.
 
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hyperions said:
yes me too... to get the colors correctly with Photo Booth just open Photo Booth then FaceTime and the colors go back to normal from green, then close FaceTime
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It worked, however only until closing the Photo Booth app again. Next time it was green again. Nice workaround though.
 
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on Sonoma is it possible to view/retrieve some mac info when accessing from the "about this mac" menu?

with a clean installation you lose the model and year of release and the "startup disk" entry; When upgrading from 13.6 this information is retained
 

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@deeveedee and anyone else who is curious about an external WiFi adapter that may not require OCLP patching, I found this one which is WiFi 6, which will be newer than any hardware in a Mac needing OCLP, I'm sure: The problem is, the specs say 10.7 to 10.12 for macOS support, but that might be inaccurate, so use this as a starting point for a search.

I wanted to add doing a search on Amazon showed most of these dongles as windows only. I'm sure that's not completely accurate, but also there may be someone here more experienced than me since I've never had to buy one of these.
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deeveedee said:
Agreed. Unless one needs XCode, this is a perfectly good option as Monterey is still receiving Apple security updates.
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Xcode is the ONLY reason for me to use OCLP to install Ventura or Sonoma on my iMac 17,1 (late 2015).
I had no problems with Monterey, but as Xcode is my main software ...
 
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I'm starting to think Sonoma on my Mac Pro 5,1 via OCLP just wasn't meant to be :(

I had been running Monterey perfectly well, then I tried to build a new installer from OCLP 1.01. That got hung and would never install.

I tried several other methods, and ultimately (accidentally!) erased my EFI volume. So I freshly built a High Sierra install, then patched my EFI volume with OCLP 1.01, updated to Monterey, then built a Sonoma installer.

This actually got me to through the first few Sonoma installation screens, but now it's perpetually stuck on about 1/3rd the Apple boot logo.

After two days trying every thing I could think of, I'm completely stuck. Any ideas are welcome.
 
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I'm starting to think Sonoma on my Mac Pro 5,1 via OCLP just wasn't meant to be :(

I had been running Monterey perfectly well, then I tried to build a new installer from OCLP 1.01. That got hung and would never install.

I tried several other methods, and ultimately (accidentally!) erased my EFI volume. So I freshly built a High Sierra install, then patched my EFI volume with OCLP 1.01, updated to Monterey, then built a Sonoma installer.

This actually got me to through the first few Sonoma installation screens, but now it's perpetually stuck on about 1/3rd the Apple boot logo.

After two days trying every thing I could think of, I'm completely stuck. Any ideas are welcome.
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Assuming your Mac Studio M1 Max and M1 MBA have Sonoma installed and running well, why even bother installing it on the older Mac Pro? Monterey is and will be viable for some time, and it is stable.
Ventura is iffy for some people and various hardware configurations, it works fine on my iMac 15,1 but I don't know about the Mac Pro.
The only other thing you could try is to get the latest OCLP 1.1 nightly, Oct. 8 I believe from the URL below and see if that allows for a viable Sonoma install;
github.com

OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/SOURCE.md at main · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
 
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davidlv said:
Assuming your Mac Studio M1 Max and M1 MBA have Sonoma installed and running well, why even bother installing it on the older Mac Pro? Monterey is and will be viable for some time, and it is stable.
Ventura is iffy for some people and various hardware configurations, it works fine on my iMac 15,1 but I don't know about the Mac Pro.
The only other thing you could try is to get the latest OCLP 1.1 nightly, Oct. 8 I believe from the URL below and see if that allows for a viable Sonoma install;
github.com

OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/SOURCE.md at main · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
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Valid point, I don't need Sonoma on the Mac Pro. But in a couple of years, Monterey browser and app support will start to break. I'd rather give it another two years of life!

Thanks for the 1.1 tip. I'm in no hurry so maybe I'll wait for the public release of 1.1 and give it another shot. Just seems weird I can get Monterey on there no problem. But I have been paying enough attention to understand that Ventura/Sonoma presented way more dev difficulties.
 
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