On my MBP6,2, Sequoia is noticeably less responsive than Ventura and Sonoma. And 15.3 is a bit less responsive than earlier versions of Sequoia. I've accepted this as "normal" for my 2010 (15 year old) hardware.
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Hi all, updated Mac pro 5,1 and iMac 11,2 OTA to 13.1, once restarted the login page keeps restarting and doesn’t let me login?
Try booting into Safe mode and reinstall patches. Shut down, restart while holding Option. At the system boot picker, choose the OCLP EFI, and then hold down Shift while selecting the OCLP macOS.
Thanks mate but same outcome, shows safe boot at top right but login screen keeps restarting and doesn’t let me input password
You must be using a Memoji for your profile picture. You need to change that. In fact, you need to remove Memoji as profile picture for all accounts. Try to type your password super fast before the login screen resets. It may take you numerous attempts. Otherwise, you may have to erase storage and install OCLP macOS again.
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Again and again thanks to the Dev's for keeping my old macs running new OS's!!!
All's Well That Ends Well
All working great on my 5 cMP machines
All's Well That Ends Well
All working great on my 5 cMP machines
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Hi @deeveedee! I feel sorry for you...
On my 27" iMac from late 2013, instead, maOS is still as fast and responsive as ever....
Maybe you need to wait a little longer for the caches to build up, for the System to settle, for Spotlight to recreate itself, for XProtect to scan the disks, etc. after which your Mac should become responsive again.
As an aside, even with 15.3.1, only the problems I've described always remain on my Mac, involving the histogram tools in App Preview and the strange behavior of videos from YouTube on my iPhone 12 that are not all visible on the Mac, via AirPlay. And it is a mystery why some work fine and others give me a ban signal in a grays screen on the Mac....
That rMBP should be ok, relatively speaking. Different to grasp what "very slowly" means.
Before you try anything else, I would suggest updating to Sequoia 15.3.1 and latest OCLP as that works great here on Macs older than yours. But I guess you might have different expectations.
Sequoia might be one of or indeed the very last MacOS that supports Intel so there is a fair point in trying to make it work to have support from Apple as long as possible. YMMV.
Hi guys,
I have imac 27 inch 2011 with Radeon WX4150 and core i7 3.4GHz. I install sequoia, wifi not working with exclamation mark. then I tried with sonoma and it's still like that. I am so frustrated with this. tried 3 wifi module and nothing work. Post install root patch only patch the GPU. any suggestions?
I have imac 27 inch 2011 with Radeon WX4150 and core i7 3.4GHz. I install sequoia, wifi not working with exclamation mark. then I tried with sonoma and it's still like that. I am so frustrated with this. tried 3 wifi module and nothing work. Post install root patch only patch the GPU. any suggestions?
I had 15.2 and did upgrade to 15.3 and started to have gray screen and hidden dock. I reinstalled 15.2 again. It´s resolved gray screen on 15.3.1?
If you can get networking via ethernet or mobile, try running the OCLP patcher again, as it needs to download the drivers for your Mac and that is why your are not getting wifi. If that is a no go, you can install the latest MacOS that gives you working Wifi and then build an OCLP installer on a USBstick and then install from that, which should then have the patches onboard to be loaded without networking available. Good luck.
I am afraid I don't quite understand what you are asking. I would suggest upgrading to latest Sequoia 15.3.1 and then rerun the patcher. Twice if you still do not see full functionality. Again, your rMBP 2014 should be fine if you simply follow the OCLP instructions from this thread. For example in the post above this one. You need the drivers patched with networking to see full functionality.
if you have a usb WiFi adapter
GitHub - chris1111/Wireless-USB-Big-Sur-Adapter: Drivers for Realtek 802.11n and 802.11ac USB Wi-Fi adapters. Packages for macOS
Drivers for Realtek 802.11n and 802.11ac USB Wi-Fi adapters. Packages for macOS - GitHub - chris1111/Wireless-USB-Big-Sur-Adapter: Drivers for Realtek 802.11n and 802.11ac USB Wi-Fi adapters. Pack...
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Oldie but goldie: Use your iPhone Hotspot via USB for internet, assuming you got a decent data plan. Or since it's a desktop, get a WIFI extender connected to your ethernet port until that wifi driver issue is being sorted.
Thank you.
EDIT: @Alfilde I performed some tests on my MBP6,2 to assess your suspicions about boot time. Test results are as follows with my methodology below. Spotlight is disabled on all volumes for my testing and all macOS volumes have been allowed to achieve steady state following their installation. Boot times are measured from the Open Core menu to a fully-populated desktop.
- Ventura 13.7.4: 48.52 seconds
- Sonoma 14.7.4: 59.41 seconds
- Sequoia 15.3.1: 99.55 seconds
- Before booting each tested macOS for the first time, I reset NVRAM
- Before measuring boot time of each macOS, I booted macOS once and then reboot
- To collect boot time for each macOS, I booted each macOS three times and recorded the best boot time. My specified boot times are measured from the Open Core boot menu to a fully-populated desktop (this includes my manual password entry).
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rMBP10,1 mid 2012 updated from 15.3 + 2.2.0 to Sequoia 15.3.1 (24D70) + OCLP 2.2.0. I used the apple installer downloaded via the OCLP button to ~/Applications, then just double clicked it while logged in to 15.3. Took about 30 mins. Was connected using ethernet with wi-fi switched off.
Very slow on first login attempt, eventually I forced a power-off and rebooted, problem solved, it ran fast. Rebuilt OCLP (it downloaded the metallib update for the new macOS build) and repatched, then rebooted. Performance seems normal at this point, no discernible difference to 15.3
Very slow on first login attempt, eventually I forced a power-off and rebooted, problem solved, it ran fast. Rebuilt OCLP (it downloaded the metallib update for the new macOS build) and repatched, then rebooted. Performance seems normal at this point, no discernible difference to 15.3
Boot time on my mid 2012 MBP is definitely longer on Sequoia than Sonoma similar to the numbers you measured, but I attribute that to the more extensive patches that were needed. Once booted I don't really notice any difference in speed compared to Sonoma. The devs have done a fine job IMO up to this point and if I can make it to 2026 before I have to consider a new or new used computer I will be quite pleased.
My MBP6,2 needs Wi-Fi and NVidia Tesla root patches for Sonoma and Sequoia, so I don't attribute any performance differences between Sonoma and Sequoia to "more extensive patches."
It is an absolute certainty that we will observe differing degrees of performance degradation for different Mac models/SMBIOS due to metal/non-metal, AVX, AVX2, memory size/speed, CPU/GPU performance ...
Like you, I am quite pleased and continue to be amazed that Sequoia runs at all, let alone runs respectably well on our unsupported Macs. Please don't interpret my own experience as an assignment of judgement to Macs that I have not tested.
Perfect @deeveedee! I was referring to the performance of the Finder and the behavior of applications, even the heavier ones like Final Cut Pro. In these situations, my perception is no different from my daughter's 2018 MacBook Pro that supports Sequoia. Except, of course, for decoding times and other performance related to hardware limitations.Thank you.
EDIT: @Alfilde I performed some tests on my MBP6,2 to assess your suspicions about boot time. Test results are as follows with my methodology below. Spotlight is disabled on all volumes for my testing and all macOS volumes have been allowed to achieve steady state following their installation. Boot times are measured from the Open Core menu to a fully-populated desktop.
To measure boot times (from Open Core menu to fully-populated desktop), I did the following:
- Ventura 13.7.4: 48.52 seconds
- Sonoma 14.7.4: 59.41 seconds
- Sequoia 15.3.1: 99.55 seconds
Please don't feel sorry for me. I'm still pleased with the performance of this very old hack (thanks to the OCLP Devs).
- Before booting each tested macOS for the first time, I reset NVRAM
- Before measuring boot time of each macOS, I booted macOS once and then reboot
- To collect boot time for each macOS, I booted each macOS three times and recorded the best boot time. My specified boot times are measured from the Open Core boot menu to a fully-populated desktop (this includes my manual password entry).
But as far as boot time is concerned, you are absolutely right. Sequoia seems to start up rather slowly while Sonoma, at least in my case, was lightning fast. After startup and the initial password screen in Sonoma (since I use FileVault) the progress bar would almost make jumps and in a few seconds the desktop would appear. After that everything stabilized in a very few seconds: recognition of Time Machine, external HDs, etc. and without ever the fan noise as, on the other hand, happens in Sequoia.
But now, for the sake of objectivity and intellectual honesty... someone should repeat the above tests with a Mac that supports Sequoia to see if booting in a supported Mac also became much slower than in Sonoma and Ventura.
In fact, let us not forget that Sequoia has a very large installer size and has to deal with experimenting with AI features. So I would call Sequoia an hybrid System, and I think it will take a long time before Apple can give us new macOS perfectly optimized in their structure and Code...
All in all, as happened in the transition from Catalina up to Sonoma and as happened before in other phases of Mac OS X and OS X..
I think, so, that OCLP is innocent 😍
I have the same machine and Sequioa is fine. Not great but manageable. It may be a RAM issue though since I have 16GB.