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lfaa

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My point was that you don't need to use it when you are sleeping. can't you just plug it in once a month (or once a week) and be guaranteed that its always charged?
Sure I can, I just have to think about it... I just got an idea: I'll put a warning in my calendar and get a notification: hey tonight is the night to recharge the mouse. once every 2-3 week is fine. :)
 

darngooddesign

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Sure I can, I just have to think about it... I just got an idea: I'll put a warning in my calendar and get a notification: hey tonight is the night to recharge the mouse. once every 2-3 week is fine. :)
Thats a good idea. I wasn't being sarcastic, just saying that you shouldn't need a battery indicator for something that lasts reliably weeks or months.
 

Moof1904

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Unable to "Start Using iCloud"

I'm getting a prompt to "Start Using iCloud" but when I click the button "Start Using iCloud" complete the dialog with my iCloud credentials and click "Next" and the system processes for a few seconds and then returns to the "Start Using iCloud" screen.

I've rebooted, tried this numerous times, clicked "Sign Out" and tried signing back in to iCloud, but nothing works. This is a clean install of Big Sur on a brand new partition.

(And I know that my iCloud credentials are correct because I'm pasting them from 1Password.)

Is anyone else seeing this?
 

drbill

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My mac (Mac Pro 2013) will not sleep. This began after updating to Big Sur 11.2 and has persisted thru 11.2.1, 2 and 3 and now in 11.3 beta 7 (I wanted to see whether 11.3 might fix this problem).

I've tried removing all external thunderbolt and USB, I've stopped home sharing, I've booted into safe mode...no joy.

Activity monitor shows WindowsServer is preventing sleep and also large # of idle wake ups with kernel_task (don't really know what this means).

Help is greatly appreciated.

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gilby101

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My mac (Mac Pro 2013) will not sleep....
The terminal command pmset -g shows power settings and includes a line specifying processes preventing sleep. That may help. I suspect it is not WindowServer which is really blocking sleep. kernel_task behaviour that you are seeing is normal.
 
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drbill

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The terminal command pmset -g shows power settings and includes a line specifying processes preventing sleep. That may help. I suspect it is not WindowServer which is really blocking sleep. kernel_task behaviour that you are seeing is normal.
Thanks for your suggestion. Here's the power settings. By the way, womp and networkoversleep are "0" because I've disabled "wake for network access". This does fix the problem but I need to be able to access this machine over the network at times so I don't want this disabled. I guess I need to find out what network activity is preventing sleep. The thing is all was fine with the machine sleeping normally and wake for network access enabled before I updated to macOS 11.2!
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cool11

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I have a usb hub from anker, and a seagate external hard disk attached to it,
for many years.
Numerous versions of mac os passed from my mbp without problems all the previous years.
But now, the last months, I can see that after some minutes, mac seem to lose 'connection' with the external hard disk.
Though it displays external hard disk and its contents as connected and visible/available, the reality is that they are not.
I just can't do anything with these files.
So I have to unplug, plug again, and then I gain some extra minutes before this problem appears again.

Is there any general problem with usb/ports/hubs etc, with big sur?
Does my problem reminds anything to you?
I hope this to be just a bug and be fixed soon.
But I wait for your opinions.
 

gank41

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I have a usb hub from anker, and a seagate external hard disk attached to it,
for many years.
Numerous versions of mac os passed from my mbp without problems all the previous years.
But now, the last months, I can see that after some minutes, mac seem to lose 'connection' with the external hard disk.
Though it displays external hard disk and its contents as connected and visible/available, the reality is that they are not.
I just can't do anything with these files.
So I have to unplug, plug again, and then I gain some extra minutes before this problem appears again.

Is there any general problem with usb/ports/hubs etc, with big sur?
Does my problem reminds anything to you?
I hope this to be just a bug and be fixed soon.
But I wait for your opinions.
I’ve also got an 8TB Seagate external drive connected to a 10 Port Aukey hub and have had connection issues since getting my M1 MBP. Before on my 2015 MBP, never had any issues for a few years.
 
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ddublu

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I have a 2020 iMac with two TB 3 connections to two separate disk arrays (Thunderbay 4s) which also has two external monitors connected. After the most recent update to 11.3 beta, my iMac boots to a login screen but as soon as I hit enter after my pword, it freezes briefly and then shuts down only to restart with a warning that it was shut down due to a problem. I can unplug the TB3 connections (but obviously lose all external data and both monitors).

I've pulled the power cable for 20 secs, restarted into safe mode, reset SMA and NVRAM with no luck.

All data is on both external disk arrays except for things like LR catalog, Final Cut Pro backups/cache and a few other things. My TM backup for my system is pointed to one of the external disk arrays as well.

Any other suggestions to check/try before I revert back to non-beta 11.2.3? Will I have to sort back to a TM backup to restore from that isnt from a beta backup?
 

gilby101

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Any other suggestions to check/try before I revert back to non-beta 11.2.3? Will I have to sort back to a TM backup to restore from that isnt from a beta backup?
Report to Apple Feedback.

With a bit of luck you will be able to install 11.2.3 over the top. That will rewrite the read-only system partition.

But if that fails then you will have to restore with an 11.2.3 install and recover from an 11.2.3 TM backup. And then recover just your files (not settings) from a more recent TM backup. Make sure you know where your LR catalog is stored so that you can recover the latest from TM.
 

ddublu

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Report to Apple Feedback.

With a bit of luck you will be able to install 11.2.3 over the top. That will rewrite the read-only system partition.

But if that fails then you will have to restore with an 11.2.3 install and recover from an 11.2.3 TM backup. And then recover just your files (not settings) from a more recent TM backup. Make sure you know where your LR catalog is stored so that you can recover the latest from TM.
Thanks! How would I install over the current OS? The plan was to boot into recovery, erase and install 11.2.3. Would love to not have to restore if I can help it.
 

cool11

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I’ve also got an 8TB Seagate external drive connected to a 10 Port Aukey hub and have had connection issues since getting my M1 MBP. Before on my 2015 MBP, never had any issues for a few years.
So, I am not alone on this issue.

Is Big sur failing with usb/external hard disks?
 

ddublu

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So, I am not alone on this issue.

Is Big sur failing with usb/external hard disks?
This latest beta isnt playing friendly on a configuration that has worked for me for over 5 years. USBC to an external monitor, no problem. USBC to an external disk array (most current SoftRaid drivers to support Big Sur) - no dice.
 
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gank41

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So, I am not alone on this issue.

Is Big sur failing with usb/external hard disks?
I'm using a Belkin Thunderbolt 3 Dock Pro along with a powered Aukey Hub, making sure to connect to the Belkin Dock first before plugging in the Aukey Hub. I've read that macOS can have issues with two powered docks/hubs connected and then try to get Power Delivery from the first dock/hub that's connected. My issues continue with only one of my 6 external drives, and that's a Seagate drive.
 
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Sill

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Hello Sill. My original post seems to have been taken over by other problems but you have brought it back. You describe exactly the problem I was having. I would have thought by now Apple would have seen our posts and done something about it with an update but I fear not. I thought Mac was supposed to be superior to Microsoft Windows but my wife's Windows 10 is much faster. Every action gets an immediate response, no waiting at all.

I wouldn't go as far as complementing Windows, but the issues with Apple software (and their political activities) have me looking at Linux again.
 
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Sill

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I think I may have found one answer to the slowdowns.

When it occurred on my machine, I had about 50 browser tabs open in Firefox, and perhaps 5 open in Safari. For privacy reasons, I used Firefox and set it to auto-delete cookies and cache when the tabs were closed. I only used Safari for forums and accounts that required a sign-in. Firefox was what slowed down first and then it spread throughout my machine. I quit every program and restarted and the issue was still there.

I used my Time Machine backup of my home iMac to restore my office iMac to Catalina, and also give me access to my important files in case the home machine took a dive. It works just fine, even though the office iMac is 5 years older.

The home iMac kept crawling slower and slower, like if it was going to thermally overload, but there was no excessive fan noise. Finally, the thing froze and then blinked out and rebooted. When it came back up it was running fine, except there was a "problem report" window open. I haven't clicked the "Send to Apple" button yet, because I have no idea what info that might pass to them.

Since then the computer has not given me much trouble, aside from the occasional "I'll think about it" when I click in a window and start to type. I've also noticed that Safari, when I click on a link, will revert to showing the sending page in the title bar until the linked page has loaded. This makes me think I didn't click the link and I do it again, and then the page load screws up. Finally, page loads have screwed up occasionally, reverting to the old text version of a given site until I click it a second or third time.

Based on this I think that memory issues caused by the browsers are a major issue. Safari isn't as bad as Firefox.

One last detail I should mention is that the most recent updates of Firefox have been nearly unusable for me. Lots of sites are broken or missing objects. I'm not happy with how Apple took cookie management out of the users' hands a few versions ago, so I really want an alternate browser that gives me cookie control and also mitigates a lot of the security risks. There's really nothing out there, so I'm stuck with Safari.
 

Sill

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You could say: the complexity of modern web pages is a major issue. And on Apple devices, Safari manages this better than other browsers.

I could, but thats not it.

I used to laugh about how many browser windows I could have open at once, but now if I have 10 pages open for any length of time, slowdowns happen. I had the NASDAQ page up with a single stock on that I was watching. After a few days the machine started slowing down. I happened to bring that stock window to the top, at the bottom I see a message "This web page is using a large amount of resources, closing it may improve performance". Note that it was a simple window with nothing but a pane showing an up to the moment price. There was nothing else on the screen that might draw resources. Probably not much different than an RSS feed.

So to say "all browser suck, but Apple's sucks the least" is not really good ad copy, Gilby. :D
 

the3ye

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Is it just me or Apple managed to break Web Inspector in Safari 14.1? I can’t seem to view webpage images when in Sources > Images folder. It used to show all graphics with ability to scroll them in previous version, and right now it’s showing one random pic only.
 

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ZachNathan

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Oof... I dunno about anyone else, but I just updated to 11.3 and something's changed with Safari's memory management. I'm running with a significantly higher RAM usage now, with noticeable lag and pinwheel compared to 20 minutes ago (11.2). OS is perfectly fine, and noticeably snappier.

Anyone have any tips? I use a RAM cleaner, but it feels Safari is running up the usage constantly.
 

mcvaughan

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Still seeing the occasional Bluetooth drops on 11.3. Magic Mouse and AirPods Max drop at the same time, but then come back after about a minute.
 

GeeYouEye

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State of Denial
I just upgraded directly from 10.15.7 to 11.3. The Open Recent menu no longer works in any app I've tried (Xcode, VLC, TextEdit). Anyone heard of/dealt with this before? That is, the menu is correctly populated, but selecting anything doesn't actually open the document.
 

dmrowley

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Aug 4, 2010
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As of this morning, I found my machine had crashed after installing 11.3.1, and now my 2TB External Thunderbolt3 SSD is not recognized as a drive. The weird thing is that I can see it in System Information, but disk utility doesn't show the drive. I am trying to figure out if this is OS related, or bad timing for the drive to fail. I have only been using it about 6 months...

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