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Hi, I have a Mac Pro 3.1 running High Sierra and running it well with a ATI Radeon HD 5870 1 GB graphics card, however I have a Palit GTX 570 card that I had for a now defunct Mac Pro 2.1, would this card work in my 3.1 and if so does it need any updated drivers given its an old card?
Hope you can help
Keith
Hope you can help
Keith
This is a tad off topic for the thread, but since we have a number of folks here who have flashed PC video cards with Mac ROMs it seems like a good place to ask it. I have noticed for a long time, from using a MacPro 3,1 under linux, that the reported temperatures on the HD2600XT have always been fairly high at close to 90C. From my MacPro 3,1's Windows 10 drive, I ran GPU-Z to dump the HD2600XT's bios and loaded it in RBE_128 to view the Fan control values. As has been previously observed...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/gpu-temperature-over-90c.801160/
...the Tmin is set to 85C, Tmax to 105C with a 0% Duty cycle and a Tslope of 80. By comparison,
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2359/sapphire-hd2600xt-256-071104
has Tmin of 40C, Tmax of 101C, Tslope% of 22 and a duty cycle of 16%. I am wondering if would be worth the risk of editing the bios obtained from the card using GPU-Z to have a more reasonable Tmin like 65C? I assume the 0% duty cycle just means that the Mac HD2600XT never shuts the fan off.
ps Actually, I just noticed that the PC card uses a lookup table to control the temp
Threshold C 50 60 70 75 80 85 90 95
Fan Speed % 27 39 51 87 100 100 100 100
whereas the Mac card has the transfer function used instead. It does have entries for a lookup table of...
Threshold C 50 60 70 75 80 85 90 95
Fan Speed % 30 41 50 61 70 81 90 100
So the lowest risk approach might be to just toggle that lookup table on. I did notice that according to GPU-Z, the fan is typically only running at 1% speed. I wonder if this could be a leftover from Jobs intense dislike of fan noise.
pps I assume that most folks who are flashing the PC cards start with them on a PC, but I am wonder if the same tools would work okay under Windows 10 when flashing directly on a MacPro.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/gpu-temperature-over-90c.801160/
...the Tmin is set to 85C, Tmax to 105C with a 0% Duty cycle and a Tslope of 80. By comparison,
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2359/sapphire-hd2600xt-256-071104
has Tmin of 40C, Tmax of 101C, Tslope% of 22 and a duty cycle of 16%. I am wondering if would be worth the risk of editing the bios obtained from the card using GPU-Z to have a more reasonable Tmin like 65C? I assume the 0% duty cycle just means that the Mac HD2600XT never shuts the fan off.
ps Actually, I just noticed that the PC card uses a lookup table to control the temp
Threshold C 50 60 70 75 80 85 90 95
Fan Speed % 27 39 51 87 100 100 100 100
whereas the Mac card has the transfer function used instead. It does have entries for a lookup table of...
Threshold C 50 60 70 75 80 85 90 95
Fan Speed % 30 41 50 61 70 81 90 100
So the lowest risk approach might be to just toggle that lookup table on. I did notice that according to GPU-Z, the fan is typically only running at 1% speed. I wonder if this could be a leftover from Jobs intense dislike of fan noise.
pps I assume that most folks who are flashing the PC cards start with them on a PC, but I am wonder if the same tools would work okay under Windows 10 when flashing directly on a MacPro.
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For the first time ever, today I had a dialog pop up saying that I'd run out of application memory and it offered a list of applications to quit. I had a few apps open - Safari (many tabs), Chrome (many tabs), Excel (a few documents), Notes, Reminders, Messages, Keychain - but that's not unusual for me. I have 8GB RAM and loads of free disk space. I'm hoping this is nothing to do with 10.13.4. Strange things were happening as well - when I tried to quit Excel, and it offered me to save open documents (to which I said yes), it said it couldn't find the document. Excel also complained that it couldn't save one of the documents on BT Cloud - I never store documents on BT Cloud. I shall have to keep an eye on it. Anyone else seen this before?
Advice / Opinions wanted!!
In the past, I've evaluated using High Sierra on my Mac Pro 3.1 with HD5770 video card. It seemed to work except for the login screen color sometime being red but more important, it does not wake up properly when it goes to sleep. When I "wake" it up, the system is running; I can SSH in remotely, but still no video display. Looking at my usage of my MP 3,1, we mostly use is with Photos (with over 57K of.) When I use it, I found I turn of sleep so Photo scanning and analysis needs to run.
Can someone tell me how the latest version of HS works on the MacPro 3,1? Is it stable and is the HD5770 video, sleep and otherwise, working? At worst, I can set it so it does not go to sleep. For daily, heavy multi-media use and processing, I still use the MP, for most others I use an iMac. I'm on the fence waiting for the new MP or iMac Pro, I'm not sure if I can wait another year with the current MP.
Or maybe I should stay with Sierra? I am hoping that some of the Photos bugs were fixed and maybe slightly faster when editing a lot of photos in a session? If I edit too many in the row, it queue too may tasks up and hangs/crashes. An effect of slow CPU. Its amazing when you are not editing photos, it is amazingly fast with 57K photos. There is not other consumer SW, PC or otherwise, that can handle so much with out breaking photos up. My MP has raided SSDs for "fast" I/O.
I plan to reinstall HS on separate SSD using the latest and latest installer.
In the past, I've evaluated using High Sierra on my Mac Pro 3.1 with HD5770 video card. It seemed to work except for the login screen color sometime being red but more important, it does not wake up properly when it goes to sleep. When I "wake" it up, the system is running; I can SSH in remotely, but still no video display. Looking at my usage of my MP 3,1, we mostly use is with Photos (with over 57K of.) When I use it, I found I turn of sleep so Photo scanning and analysis needs to run.
Can someone tell me how the latest version of HS works on the MacPro 3,1? Is it stable and is the HD5770 video, sleep and otherwise, working? At worst, I can set it so it does not go to sleep. For daily, heavy multi-media use and processing, I still use the MP, for most others I use an iMac. I'm on the fence waiting for the new MP or iMac Pro, I'm not sure if I can wait another year with the current MP.
Or maybe I should stay with Sierra? I am hoping that some of the Photos bugs were fixed and maybe slightly faster when editing a lot of photos in a session? If I edit too many in the row, it queue too may tasks up and hangs/crashes. An effect of slow CPU. Its amazing when you are not editing photos, it is amazingly fast with 57K photos. There is not other consumer SW, PC or otherwise, that can handle so much with out breaking photos up. My MP has raided SSDs for "fast" I/O.
I plan to reinstall HS on separate SSD using the latest and latest installer.
Some with AMD cards have these issues with red distortion in Preview and sometimes also in Safari and login (I do), and also a problem with wakeup from sleep (I don't). As the cosmetic problems with Preview don't bother me, HS has worked perfectly fine for me.
That is, up til 10.13.3. The latest 10.13.4 introduces yet antoher anomaly for some AMD cards (HD 7950 in my case), namely that you cannot use full resolution 3840x2160 on 4K screens. You will be limited to 2560x1440.
Hello all, I've moved past my heavily upgraded Mac Pro 3,1 to an iMac Pro and at this point would love to sell parts to other modders. If there's something you're interested in let me know, but the most pertitant item may be my *Nvidia GTX 680* mac graphics card which i bought for full high sierra compatibility. DM me if interested in this or other components.
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I have the same configuration. The red login screen is easily fixed by changing the desktop image. The black screen on wake from sleep is still there, so I turn off sleep. I am burn in testing with setiathome so I don’t want the cpu to sleep anyway.
If the sleep problem can be cured with a new graphics card then you might soon see my HD5770 card on eBay.
I have the same configuration. The red login screen is easily fixed by changing the desktop image. The black screen on wake from sleep is still there, so I turn off sleep. I am burn in testing with setiathome so I don’t want the cpu to sleep anyway.
If the sleep problem can be cured with a new graphics card then you might soon see my HD5770 card on eBay.
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Last weekend I dragged my trusty late 2008 MacBook 5,1 straight from Mavericks to High Sierra with dosdude's tool - worked fine, no problems at all (yet). If anything it's faster and smoother than Mavericks. I enabled the "reduce motion" setting though (which just as on iOS replaces all the wild animations with a soft cross-fade, much easier on both GPU and eyes).
Just discovered something disappointing with my MacPro3,1 High Sierra 10.13.4 installation.
Time Machine Backup, will backup just fine, I can restore individual files no-problem but a total system restore fails with this message...
Originally it would allow restores from 10.13.3 backups, but as soon as I selected a 10.13.4 backup I would get the above message.
So I erased the TM drive and created a new 10.13.4 backup from scratch but still a no-go for system restores.
This was not a problem for me back on 10.13.3.
Thank goodness for CCC.
Time Machine Backup, will backup just fine, I can restore individual files no-problem but a total system restore fails with this message...
Originally it would allow restores from 10.13.3 backups, but as soon as I selected a 10.13.4 backup I would get the above message.
So I erased the TM drive and created a new 10.13.4 backup from scratch but still a no-go for system restores.
This was not a problem for me back on 10.13.3.
Thank goodness for CCC.
Just discovered something disappointing with my MacPro3,1 High Sierra 10.13.4 installation.
Time Machine Backup, will backup just fine, I can restore individual files no-problem but a total system restore fails with this message...
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Originally it would allow restores from 10.13.3 backups, but as soon as I selected a 10.13.4 backup I would get the above message.
So I erased the TM drive and created a new 10.13.4 backup from scratch but still a no-go for system restores.
This was not a problem for me back on 10.13.3.
Thank goodness for CCC.
Thanks for the warning!! I will clone my drives, time to buy more drives!
Do you know if individual file recovery works?
You must have missed the part in my original post...
"Just discovered something disappointing with my MacPro3,1 High Sierra 10.13.4 installation.
Time Machine Backup, will backup just fine, I can restore individual files no-problem but a total system restore fails with this message..."
No. High Sierra requires Nehalem or newer processor for Radeon drivers. The current "hack" is nothng more than reverting the drivers to the version found in Sierra. But this driver is responsible for some minor glitches (sleep/wake problems, red blocks, etc). Not all glitches are found on all hardware.
Been reading back through the forum and haven't found anything to help me figure this out yet...
I'm trying to install High Sierra on a freshly formatted Samsung Evo SSD, installed on the SATA port of my MBP 5,3. I've successfully created the USB drive using both an image pulled from the App Store, and another with the installer downloaded through the patcher itself.
Both thumb drives have successfully completed the install process, and the post install tool correctly identifies my model as 5,3. I enabled the update and SIP disable options as well.
In every case the boot drive remains unbootable. I've tried both journaled and APFS formats and get the same results with both after multiple forced cache rebuilds.
Can't imagine what I'm missing?
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Oh for crying out loud... I can now totally imagine what I was missing. Like I said, the patcher accurately detected the model of my Mac, which is not the same as selecting the model. Argh.
This will be another lesson in attention to detail I will likely fail to learn from.
Thanks dosdude! This is awesome.
I'm trying to install High Sierra on a freshly formatted Samsung Evo SSD, installed on the SATA port of my MBP 5,3. I've successfully created the USB drive using both an image pulled from the App Store, and another with the installer downloaded through the patcher itself.
Both thumb drives have successfully completed the install process, and the post install tool correctly identifies my model as 5,3. I enabled the update and SIP disable options as well.
In every case the boot drive remains unbootable. I've tried both journaled and APFS formats and get the same results with both after multiple forced cache rebuilds.
Can't imagine what I'm missing?
*****EDIT
Oh for crying out loud... I can now totally imagine what I was missing. Like I said, the patcher accurately detected the model of my Mac, which is not the same as selecting the model. Argh.
This will be another lesson in attention to detail I will likely fail to learn from.
Thanks dosdude! This is awesome.
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All I can think is that maybe you're not applying the post-install patches to the correct volume? You should be selecting the volume onto which you just installed High Sierra.
I have been running these patches without a hiccup for quite a while on my 2009 13" 5.5 MBP. Recently I have had an issue with coming out of sleep with a crash on corebrightnessd.
If I click on System Preferences > Displays I get a beachball and a very slow load of the settings page. Once loaded under 'Night Shift' the schedule is set to off with the manual mode checkbox already ticked. If I untick the box to turn Night Shift off it seems to take the command but on returning to the Display menu the box is checked again.
Reading through the thread I reinstalled the Night Shift patch using the tool but after a restart the problem remains as above. I do not use Night Shift so not particularly bothered about fixing it so uninstalling this patch would also be ok - but on the Patch Updater tool I do not see an option to remove or disable it - unless I have missed something?
If I click on System Preferences > Displays I get a beachball and a very slow load of the settings page. Once loaded under 'Night Shift' the schedule is set to off with the manual mode checkbox already ticked. If I untick the box to turn Night Shift off it seems to take the command but on returning to the Display menu the box is checked again.
Reading through the thread I reinstalled the Night Shift patch using the tool but after a restart the problem remains as above. I do not use Night Shift so not particularly bothered about fixing it so uninstalling this patch would also be ok - but on the Patch Updater tool I do not see an option to remove or disable it - unless I have missed something?