macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

[amstel78]

That's a side-effect of the modern AMD card on the Mac Pro 3,1. The only solution is to replace the card with an nVidia one.

Is your statement to apply only to post El Capitan distros because in the past, my Mac wouldn't sleep on its own. I had to use 3rd party applications to force the Mac to sleep on schedule. Waking up wasn't the issue.

In this case, sleeping according to schedule isn't the problem. Just getting the video card to understand that a wake request was sent seems to be the fault here.

FWIW, sleep and wake function 100% ironically on Windows 10 Pro bootcamp - same machine. Just came back from the store after installing latest Win 10 updates to find the Mac asleep. Hit the keyboard and she fired right up. Definitely something shoddy with OSX driver integration and not hardware.

 

[thewebgal]

THIS time it worked! A bare install on the Seagate 1TB SDD, followed by Migration Assistant to get all the apps there. As that finished, Privacy and Security showed a conflict with a Silicon Image eSATA card (from OWC a few years back) that runs my ProBox external drives case - so I powered down, pulled the card, and plugged the drives into a spare USB port. The external drives are slower, but its all working! Looks like Wifi is working well (I upgraded the card a while back) ...
I pulled my OLD time Machine drive for Sierra, reformatted a spare 4TB drive and set that up as High Sierra Time machine drive. Its doing a full machine-startup backup right now (1.77TB) that will probably run overnight.
Of course, the real oddball is the hotrodded 3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processor card off eBay 2 years ago ... My macPro originally had a 2.66 Quad core Intel Xeon processor card!

Thanks to everyone for all your help! (and your patience!)

 

[jackluke]

@dosdude1

I have the following problem:

I can not use the "keyboard" + "mouse" + "trackpad" menu in the settings.
What I have found out is that it works fine after reinstall but it stops working after i update 2 patches with the patch updater. the patches which got updated are "night shift" + "backlight"

I reinstalled to confirm and it happend again. I do not want to reinstall. Please help me find out whats going on.

Night Shift works fine but backlight is buggy, it gets reseted after I switch tabs in the monitor menu.

iMac 7.1
High Sierra

the error is in german, in englisch it means "error in the system settings - you can not open the keyboard settings because it is not possible on a intel based mac"

On another thread Olivia88 discovered what caused this issue, it's an invalid patched Night Shift CoreBrightness framework, if you are on the latest 10.13.6 High Sierra version, try mine NS already patched for High Sierra following these steps:

- Open Finder then GO "go to folder" or use keyboard shortcut CMD+Shift+G and copy-paste:

/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreBrightness.framework/Versions/A/

- Replace the one inside this subfolder with this already patched binary unix exec CoreBrightness I have attached
- After done restart your iMac, this will bring Night Shift natively on unsupported Mac and mainly will fix your input devices prefpanes issues

 

[dosdude1]

Unfortunately I suffer the same issue with my 3,1 (Mac does not wake up 8 time on 10) even If I use a NVIDIA GeForce GTX480 MP (1526Mb) (it's a patched video card from MacVidCards). I decided not to use sleep anymore and power off when I do not use it (not very user-frindely but acceptable for a 2008 Mac).

I'm still running 10.13.5 (Recovery + HFS) and I'm not sure I can upgrade to 10.13.6 directly from Apple Software Update Panel... Is it supposed to upgrade well this way ?

You need to remove the AMD video card patch to resolve that issue, use this script to do so.

 

[jvlfilms]

Hey maybe someone can help me here.

I'm using a Mac Pro 4,1 running High Sierra using the dosdude patcher tool. I don't use this computer very often but about a month ago I updated to the latest version of High Sierra and something screwy happened with the update where it couldn't install the update. It rebooted and nothing seemed too out of the ordinary so I just let it be.

A few weeks later I start it up and go on Chrome and nothing loads. Very odd. I go to safari and the same thing. I type in a webpage but the screen remains blank. I try going back to update in the App Store and that doesn't load either. It's very strange.

I was hoping not to do a full wipe so I figured I'd need to reinstall the OS again using the patcher tool. I was able to grab the DMG from my laptop and create the USB drive that way. But when I reboot and try to select the drive, it takes FOREVER to load fully and then just stays with the bar indefinitely.

Has anyone heard of this before? The USB ports work fine because I successfully created the patched installer using various flash drives and none have worked.

 

[BartmanEH]

Hey maybe someone can help me here.[...]A few weeks later I start it up and go on Chrome and nothing loads. Very odd. I go to safari and the same thing. I type in a webpage but the screen remains blank. I try going back to update in the App Store and that doesn't load either. It's very strange.

This is known issue frequently reported in this thread (including by yours truly). You need to use the post-install patcher to fix this issue--reboot from the dosdude patched installer USB stick and choose the "post-install patcher" tool (ignore the High Sierra installer that comes up). Alternatively, folks have had success using the standard Mac tool Onyx available from the MacOS Store and running it with default settings.

 

[Mac-key]

Recently resurrected my Mid-2009 13' MBP! This was the first MBP I ever bought back in August of 2009. I bought it refurbed and it came with a SNOW LEOPARD install disc. The thing still had LEOPARD running on it!

It was a great little computer for 2 years until I replaced it with a 2011 15' MBP (which has since died thanks to the faulty GPU - the motherboard had been replaced by Apple THREE TIMES before they told me it was a vintage machine) I'm currently on a 2015 15' MBP as my main machine.

Anyway, just wanted to see if I could get High Sierra to run on this 2009 model, and was successful in doing so today!

Anyone else out there running an "unsupported MBP" on HS?

 

[Sedulous]

Great to hear. I still use 17” from same year. Much thanks to people over in the unsupported thread here on Macrumors for keeping it up to date (and shame on Apple for arbitrarily dropping support).

 

[Mac-key]

Great to hear. I still use 17” from same year. Much thanks to people over in the unsupported thread here on Macrumors for keeping it up to date (and shame on Apple for arbitrarily dropping support).

The good ole 17'er - What a wonderful classic MBP

 

[jvlfilms]

This is known issue frequently reported in this thread (including by yours truly). You need to use the post-install patcher to fix this issue--reboot from the dosdude patched installer USB stick and choose the "post-install patcher" tool (ignore the High Sierra installer that comes up). Alternatively, folks have had success using the standard Mac tool Onyx available from the MacOS Store and running it with default settings.

Thanks for the quick reply. Onyx worked perfectly for me without even needing the USB stick...

As for not being able to get the installer to load... I must have read the FAQ about 10 times before posting on the forums here Sometimes I guess you just need a fresh set of eyes looking at something for it to click. Thanks for all the help!

 

[Snoim]

Used a mid 2009 13" MBP until I upgraded to the 2018 13" recently. I still haven't moved all the data over so I still use it from time to time and am very suprised how good it's holding up. I maxed it out with 8GB RAM and a SSD and while the 2018 13" is clearly faster it is not as mutch faster as i would have thought for 9 years of progress in this field.

 

[KernkraftX360]

Am I the only one of the mid-2010 Mac Book Pro that has Wifi: No Hardware Installed error, after upgrade from 10.13.5 to 10.13.6?

 

[ribero]

You need to remove the AMD video card patch to resolve that issue, use this script to do so.

First, thanks a lot for the help
I ran the script and rebooted but... I still have the blackscreen symptom (and no remote access) when trying to wakeup the Mac... There is probably something else that prevent a correct wakeup.

I'm a bit afraid to upgrade to 10.13.6 from the MAS. Do you think it's safe/doable ? Should I update to 10.13.6 then reboot on freshly installed 10.13.6 USB key with your tool and re-run the post install tool ?

 

[MisterBiro]

I'm having a problem installing on a Mac Pro 3,1.

Although I've had this running on an iMac 9,1 since release with no problems, when I try and install on my Mac Pro the installer won't boot.

If I boot in verbose mode then I see errors for a Segmentation Fault 11 for trustd, locationd, and one other daemon repeated over and over and over.

The Mac Pro will boot 10.13 fine if I put a drive in it that already has it installed (for example if I use the drive from the iMac 9,1).

I have tried numerous USB sticks and have redownload the installer as well as removing RAM, etc but it simply refuses to boot because of the seg. fault.

OSX 10.11 installs without issue.

Can anyone offer any thoughts on what I can do?

 

[Agentriegel]

Huh, csrutil status returns that it's disabled. Maybe I'll try it in safe mode.

Otherwise I'll just upgrade to HS, seems to work there..

I'm running into the same issue. I confirmed SIP is disabled and tried booting into EFI flash mode multiple times. Were you able to resolve this error? I'm using v 2.0.0 of @dosdude1s tool (downloaded 8/16). Thanks!



MP3,1 | macOS 10.13.6 | GTX750ti | BCM94331CD

 

[pioneer200569]

Hello having a bit of a problem with my High Sierra I was using the patcher and my xfx 7970 stop working Don’t know what to do and need some help and just before you ask yes I installed the patch amd 7xxx for it and I don’t get a signal from my 7970. Please help

 

[tsialex]

Hello having a bit of a problem with my High Sierra I was using the patcher and my xfx 7970 stop working Don’t know what to do and need some help and just before you ask yes I installed the patch amd 7xxx for it and I don’t get a signal from my 7970. Please help

If it's a Mac Pro 3,1, your Xeon don't have SSE4.2. Check this post #5413.

 

[pioneer200569]

If it's a Mac Pro 3,1, your Xeon don't have SSE4.2. Check this post #5413.

It’s a 3,1 Mac Pro and don’t know if it has sse4.2. I don’t even know what that means

 

[tsialex]

It’s a 3,1 Mac Pro and don’t know if it has sse4.2. I don’t even know what that means

The Xeon processor on a 2008 Mac Pro don't have the SSE4.2 instructions that HD7xxx drivers on High Sierra/Mojave need.

So, for a Mac Pro 2008, you have to use Nvidia GPUs, the Nvidia driver don't need SSE4.2. On High Sierra you can use a GT120 but for running Mojave, you need a Metal GPU so Nvidia Kepler onwards - like GTX 680 or newer.

 

[TimothyR734]

It’s a 3,1 Mac Pro and don’t know if it has sse4.2. I don’t even know what that means

SSE=Streaming SIMD Extensions

 

[pioneer200569]

So what you’re telling me is definitely no xfx 7970 Very deeply sad about this news guess I have to stick with El Capitan for now or would it work if I got it flashed

 

[tsialex]

So what you’re telling me is definitely no xfx 7970

Correct, you can't use a AMD 7xxx and newer AMD GPUs on High Sierra and Mojave in a 2008 Mac Pro. Only Nvidia Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal ones.

would it work if I got it flashed

No, the problem is that the Mac Pro processor is incompatible, you can't do anything to make the GPU compatible with a incompatible processor.

 

[TheStork]

Correct, you can't use a AMD 7xxx and newer AMD GPUs on High Sierra and Mojave in a 2008 Mac Pro. Only Nvidia Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal ones.

Well, nuts! My MVC's flashed 7950 is working great on my MP3,1, and, now, I have to change to a flashed GTX 680 or newer. The good news is that I have a GTX 760 I can used to get flashed for (I'm guessing) $125-$150. But, I'm disappointed as the 7950 was doing a good job.

 

[amstel78]

The Xeon processor on a 2008 Mac Pro don't have the SSE4.2 instructions that HD7xxx drivers on High Sierra/Mojave need.

So, for a Mac Pro 2008, you have to use Nvidia GPUs, the Nvidia driver don't need SSE4.2. On High Sierra you can use a GT120 but for running Mojave, you need a Metal GPU so Nvidia Kepler onwards - like GTX 680 or newer.

I'm running a 7950 on my Mac Pro 3,1 on 10.13.6. Everything works including OpenCL and Metal. Only thing that doesn't work properly is wake from sleep; video card remains off and doesn't get a signal from the OS to reinitialize on a wake event. Sleep and wake work fine on this machine with Windows 10 and boot camp so it's not hardware, but Apple's driver implementation.

I can't see how a 7970 would be that much different as the core GPU architecture is essentially the same.

 

[tsialex]

I'm running a 7950 on my Mac Pro 3,1 on 10.13.6. Everything works including OpenCL and Metal. Only thing that doesn't work properly is wake from sleep; video card remains off and doesn't get a signal from the OS to reinitialize on a wake event. Sleep and wake work fine on this machine with Windows 10 and boot camp so it's not hardware, but Apple's driver implementation.

I can't see how a 7970 would be that much different as the core GPU architecture is essentially the same.

So you're using Sierra drivers in High Sierra to get working, since High Sierra native ones needs SSE4.2? That won't work with Mojave.
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Well, nuts! My MVC's flashed 7950 is working great on my MP3,1, and, now, I have to change to a flashed GTX 680 or newer. The good news is that I have a GTX 760 I can used to get flashed for (I'm guessing) $125-$150. But, I'm disappointed as the 7950 was doing a good job.

Your GPU works perfectly in ElCap, but with the changes that Apple implemented on High Sierra needs SSE4.2, it's better to just use a Nvidia Kepler one. You can use try to use Sierra drivers, these don't need SSE4.2, on High Sierra and disable sleep completely, but that don't work with Mojave anymore.