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At least on my supported Mac, during the HS upgrade/installation I was given the option to convert to APFS or leave it as is, and this was with a Samsung Pro SSD.

Was that using one of the earlier betas or beta 9 (17A360a) ? I remember it was an option on earlier betas.

If you were using the latest beta, it could be that conversion to APFS will only become mandatory in GM/once High Sierra is released.
 
Mount the ESP (run "diskutil list" in terminal, note the disk identifier, then mount using "diskutil mount diskXsX"), and run "rm -R /Volumes/EFI/EFI/BOOT". That should make it disappear from your boot menu.
Sweet! That worked. Everything is damn near perfect now on my old 2009 MBP. It's now got the slickness of a supported Mac. :)
 
Was that using one of the earlier betas or beta 9 (17A360a) ? I remember it was an option on earlier betas.

If you were using the latest beta, it could be that conversion to APFS will only become mandatory in GM/once High Sierra is released.
It was still this way in developer beta 9.
 
It makes much more sense for Apple to make APFS optional on 10.13 and just let the nerds play with it for a full revision and potentially make it mandatory for SSDs/HDDs on 10.14 or later.
 
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I've been happy with APFS since installing it on my MBP. Although at times I'd be hard pressed to tell there is anything different. Maybe if the SSD wasn't constrained by Sata II speeds.

Although fast downloads (11+ MBs / 190Mbps) cause the processor to shoot up to full making the MBP damn toasty. (Temps are getting up to 95 degress C) It seems worse than it was under Sierra, scrolling a webpage seems to cause the processor usage to spike as well.

Going to take the machine apart soon and try and replace the Thermal paste on the CPU to try and cool the machine down a bit.
 
Does Apple Hardware Test work?

I tried rebooting my 2009 MBP with High Sierra on it while holding down "D", but nothing happens. I get a grey blank screen for a long time, but then eventually it just boots to High Sierra.

I wanted to test it out since I just installed 8 GB RAM in it. Everything works fine though. No crashes or weird hangs or other issues. BTW, the 2009 MBP with 8 GB RAM and High Sierra is a pretty decent machine.
 
Does Apple Hardware Test work?

I tried rebooting my 2009 MBP with High Sierra on it while holding down "D", but nothing happens. I get a grey blank screen for a long time, but then eventually it just boots to High Sierra.

I wanted to test it out since I just installed 8 GB RAM in it. Everything works fine though. No crashes or weird hangs or other issues. BTW, the 2009 MBP with 8 GB RAM and High Sierra is a pretty decent machine.

If I'm not mistaken, you lose it the moment you reinstall macOS from scratch (unless you do it using the original disks/DVDs that came with it).

Fortunately, there is a way to get it back. I remember I was even able to put in on a small USB thumbdrive at some point in the past. Give it a go.
 
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I've been happy with APFS since installing it on my MBP. Although at times I'd be hard pressed to tell there is anything different. Maybe if the SSD wasn't constrained by Sata II speeds.

Although fast downloads (11+ MBs / 190Mbps) cause the processor to shoot up to full making the MBP damn toasty. (Temps are getting up to 95 degress C) It seems worse than it was under Sierra, scrolling a webpage seems to cause the processor usage to spike as well.

Going to take the machine apart soon and try and replace the Thermal paste on the CPU to try and cool the machine down a bit.

I replaced the 8 year old TIM with a liquid metal TIM on my 2.4 GHz Late 2008 MacBook some time ago but temperatures really haven't changed a lot. It is however not exceeding 85°C when the fan is running at full speed and only hitting 90+°C when there is a sudden spike in CPU load and the fans haven't yet spun up. You might get away with just removing the fan and removing the dust in front of the heat sink.


Does Apple Hardware Test work?

I tried rebooting my 2009 MBP with High Sierra on it while holding down "D", but nothing happens. I get a grey blank screen for a long time, but then eventually it just boots to High Sierra.

I wanted to test it out since I just installed 8 GB RAM in it. Everything works fine though. No crashes or weird hangs or other issues. BTW, the 2009 MBP with 8 GB RAM and High Sierra is a pretty decent machine.

The AHT is stored on the Application install DVD included with your MacBook on purchase and not on the machine itself. You can't use an Application Install DVD included in a different System as the AHT is unique for different Logic boards.
If you don't have the Application Install DVD anymore you can download the Apple Hardware Test from here.
 
Any ideas what this error relates to? See screenshot.
 

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Possible System Preferences Bug. If I click the Language & Region icon in beta 9 booted using the RefiND boot method, nothing opens and all subsequent clicks of all other icons in System Preferences are disabled. Then, if I close the System Preferences window and then reopen it, clicks of icons other than Language & Region are enabled but as soon as Language & Region is clicked, all subsequent clicks of all icons on the page are disabled.
Is anyone else seeing this?
This bug does not occur on a HS supported Mac.
 
Possible System Preferences Bug. If I click the Language & Region icon in beta 9 booted using the RefiND boot method, nothing opens and all subsequent clicks of all other icons in System Preferences are disabled. Then, if I close the System Preferences window and then reopen it, clicks of icons other than Language & Region are enabled but as soon as Language & Region is clicked, all subsequent clicks of all icons on the page are disabled.
Is anyone else seeing this?
This bug does not occur on a HS supported Mac.
I don't have this problem with MacBookPro5,5 with High Sierra. No wonky EFI booter though. Just the regular booting (with the patch for this MBP5,5).

Maybe this is a bug with rEFInd and not the HS patch. Or maybe it's the hardware compatibility. What machine are you running?
 
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Just to clarify... The APFS booting method doesn't use rEFInd in any way, it's just an EFI shell running a script.
 
OK, but do you see the bug with Language & Region I am reporting, or is it unique to my setup?
I have it on two SSDs set up separately—not cloned.
MacPro 3,1 with HS beta 9 booting APFS and set up using dosdude1's 2.1.2 patcher
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OK, but do you see the bug with Language & Region I am reporting, or is it unique to my setup?
I have it on two SSDs set up separately—not cloned.
MacPro 3,1 with HS beta 9 booting APFS and set up using dosdude1's 2.1.2 patcher

As a test, I went through the procedure below to re-run the Setup Assistant and create a new account on the affected SSD, and the problem is gone.
No idea why it was happening and on two separate SSDs too.

Removing .AppleSetupDone

To remove this file, we need to boot the Mac into Single-User Mode. This provides a method of interacting with OS X via the command-line, with full root privileges.

Start up the Mac whilst holding down ⌘-S. After a few moments, you'll see the Mac boot to the command line.

singleuser.jpg


Before continuing, the filesystem must be checked and mounted, so files aren't immediately accessible to interact with. To do this, enter the two commands that are displayed within the prompt, one at a time.

The following command will check the filesystem to ensure there are no problems. Enter:

/sbin/fsck -fy

The next command will then mount the filesystem for it to be accessible:

/sbin/mount -uw /

With the filesystem mounted and accessible, it's time to remove the file so OS X will re-run Setup Assistant:

rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone

removesetupdone.jpg


After that, simply enter reboot and your Mac will restart and boot normally. Only this time, Setup Assistant will launch.

setupassistant.jpg
 
OK, but do you see the bug with Language & Region I am reporting, or is it unique to my setup?
I have it on two SSDs set up separately—not cloned.
MacPro 3,1 with HS beta 9 booting APFS and set up using dosdude1's 2.1.2 patcher
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No problems here using the Languages & Regions system preference panel on a MacPro 3.1 with 10.13 beta 9 installed on an APFS volume on a HDD and the APFS patch applied.
 
Run "sudo softwareupdate --clear-catalog" in Terminal and see if that helps.

Thanks, that seems to have made the error go away.

Just to add my iMac9,1 doesn't appear to have any issues. Display brightness is working, which is something that was predicted may've been an issue.
 
Hello, perhaps someone can help: I have installed High Sierra several times on a SanDisk-USB-stick; everything seems to went fine but starting from that volume finally ends up with the strikethrough-cycle. I applied the patches with the MacPostInstall-App and installed once the stick being HFS+ formatted and once APFS-formatted. Both with same result (strikethrough cycle). Who knows what could be helpful?

P.S.: Maybe of interest: I am writing this post from High Sierra with the USB-stick with High Sierra connected; "start volume" does not accept this USB-stick as start-volume.
 
Hello, perhaps someone can help: I have installed High Sierra several times on a SanDisk-USB-stick; everything seems to went fine but starting from that volume finally ends up with the strikethrough-cycle. I applied the patches with the MacPostInstall-App and installed once the stick being HFS+ formatted and once APFS-formatted. Both with same result (strikethrough cycle). Who knows what could be helpful?

P.S.: Maybe of interest: I am writing this post from High Sierra with the USB-stick with High Sierra connected; "start volume" does not accept this USB-stick as start-volume.

You really shouldn't be running High Sierra on an anything external on an unsupported Mac.
 
I am currently running High Sierra on an external SSD, connected via USB 2.0 and it is doing quite well. Now I intend to do the same from a USB-stick in order to avoid the cabling but unfortunately I run into the described problems :)
 
Dear friends, I can't install it on Mac Pro 3.0 (early 2008).

I downloaded new utility and Sierra installer through the menu of this util.

I installed in both HFS+ and new APFS file systems. Formated drives each way. I installed in on 2 new Seagate 1 TB drives different times. Surely, I do post-install procedures. But I always get white screen after some lines and nothing goes next ((

What should I do? I see a lot of people here have installed it on 2008.
 
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