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You're right, it isn't just determined by free space. The download got stuck on the MacBook Pro and I had to cancel, trying again resulted in only the 7.8 MB installer app.

When I tried yet again AFTER I had successfully installed Sierra, then I was finally able to download the full one.

As someone who keeps offline backups of every Mac App Store major OS X version (easy to install whichever one I need), I definitely find this change to be a bit of an annoyance. Would be nice to be guaranteed the full installer instead of the bare one.

Also wonder if anyone has tried createinstallmedia with the 7.8 MB installer app. Does it download the OS portion or simply fail to work?

In the meantime I tried it 50 times, I always got the 5 MB download :-/!!!
 
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newCore App Beta
An unsupported Mac installer for High Sierra. Installs High Sierra from inside macOS or an USB disk, with no working system required. NightEnabler also integrated.

Limitations

  • APFS installations are supported only when installed using macOS Sierra
  • Only HFS+ installations are supported in USB disk mode
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Version 0.2 (GUI): Link Available Soon.
Version 0.1 (Terminal Alpha): http://repo.furcode.co/macOS/HighSierra-10.13/NewCore-Installer.tgz
SHA1 = ca23473bca1f7c97cdf7de2c7105383d25e8ecdb

Guides
Version 0.1 Guide

so am i able (with sierra working on my mbp 2008) now/soon to install high sierra right from the apple store beta update incl. apfs or DO i have to create a new partition??
thx.
 
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High Sierra (10.13 Beta) BOOTING from APFS partition on mbpro 5,3 (Mid 2009)

[dual-boot with Sierra 10.12.5 HFS+]

Using @foxlet newCore 0.1 LegacyInstaller and "pre-release" APFSBoot EFI

Can't wait for 0.2 UI...

Enjoy! Thanks again to @foxlet . This is looking good, everything's pretty snappy.
 
Any update on when the APFS version will be out? I currently have malware that I cant seem to get rid of on my Macbook Pro 5,1 so I am holding off to re-do the whole thing until this is out lol.

Thanks!
 
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Today I tried foxlet's Newcore 0.1 on a MacMini 3.1 late 2009.
I did the install on a USB partition, and this seemed to be ok.
Also ./system-patcher.sh
But when booting from the USB installer stick, system crashes
"Power Supply unavailable, assuming succesful power for PRT5..."
Don't know, what occurred...


Edit:
I tried dosdudes high sierra patcher, and the
usb installer works now... Installed High Sierra on disk.
I had also problems while booting the new OS, but I think, reason was not giving the machine enough time to restart after post install. I thought, the system was hanging.
This gave me a few problems, so that I need to reset PRAM, what enabled SIP a.s.o.

Day later: Tried to disable SIP again with the USB installer: success.
Try to reboot, 10.13.
Now working like a charm...
And kernel cache problem (after force delete day before) resolved itself.
Bluetooth, USB working.
MacMini 3.1 late 2009

Thanks everyone for his work!
 

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I tried to create a USB drive twice now using dosdude's High Sierra patcher
and the USB shows "Install OS X El Capitan App" - and when I click that app I get a failure "App is too old"

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So, you can see it sees and verifies the High Sierra beta as a valid file ...
But once the patcher runs, it seems to get named as "El Capitan" -
This is on a Samsung 32GB USB stick.
If I go to the USB drive and click the "El Capitan" app, it says:
This copy of the "Install OS X" application is too old to be opened on this version of OS X.

If I rename it to "Install OS X High Sierra App" - I get the same error - the App is too old.

I just tried to install it directly out of my downloads folder and it hung -
maybe I just have a bad copy of 10-13b ... sigh.

I just grabbed another copy from that google file directory -
I have unzipped it and am trying again, and getting the same results -
maybe Google replaced the High Sierra beta zip file with an El Capitan zip file??


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I tried to create a USB drive twice now using dosdude's High Sierra patcher
and the USB shows "Install OS X El Capitan App" - and when I click that app I get a failure "App is too old"

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So, you can see it sees and verifies the High Sierra beta as a valid file ...
But once the patcher runs, it seems to get named as "El Capitan" -
This is on a Samsung 32GB USB stick.
If I go to the USB drive and click the "El Capitan" app, it says:
This copy of the "Install OS X" application is too old to be opened on this version of OS X.

If I rename it to "Install OS X High Sierra App" - I get the same error - the App is too old.

I just tried to install it directly out of my downloads folder and it hung -
maybe I just have a bad copy of 10-13b ... sigh.

I just grabbed another copy from that google file directory -
I have unzipped it and am trying again, and getting the same results -
maybe Google replaced the High Sierra beta zip file with an El Capitan zip file??


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Both dd's and foxlet's patchers use the El Capitan Installer to install HS packages. As designed. This is all pretty fresh :) ... The @foxlet "newCore" stick will be called [OS X Base System] and works (see above). Good luck...the price of early adoption...
 
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Once you get High Sierra on your unsupported Mac you can follow these directions to convert your hfs data partition to apfs and then get it to boot direct into apfs.

First, make a backup of your drive.

Then
http://enterprisemac.bruienne.com/2017-02-27-apfs-boot-quickpost/

Got it working on a MacBook Pro 5,1

That requires a helper partition that remains HFS, and it also doesn't properly create or map the new partitions used by APFS (you'll be writing VM files to the user APFS partition which is not good). Just a word of warning!
 
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That requires a helper partition that remains HFS, and it also doesn't properly create or map the new partitions used by APFS (you'll be writing VM files to the user APFS partition which is not good). Just a word of warning!

The very small hfs "helper" partition is fairly insignificant. Performance seems fine and no problems have cropped up with the VM.

Having said that, this is far from a primary machine and this is an early beta so getting it to boot into apfs is just for testing even if it is sort of kludge which of course is just like using a new OS on an unsupported Mac.

Looking forward to testing out your better implementation when it is ready...
 
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That requires a helper partition that remains HFS, and it also doesn't properly create or map the new partitions used by APFS (you'll be writing VM files to the user APFS partition which is not good). Just a word of warning!
Yes! I have first hand experience with that link...Its's not good. :(
 
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I tried to create a USB drive twice now using dosdude's High Sierra patcher
and the USB shows "Install OS X El Capitan App" - and when I click that app I get a failure "App is too old"

View attachment 704220

So, you can see it sees and verifies the High Sierra beta as a valid file ...
But once the patcher runs, it seems to get named as "El Capitan" -
This is on a Samsung 32GB USB stick.
If I go to the USB drive and click the "El Capitan" app, it says:
This copy of the "Install OS X" application is too old to be opened on this version of OS X.

If I rename it to "Install OS X High Sierra App" - I get the same error - the App is too old.

I just tried to install it directly out of my downloads folder and it hung -
maybe I just have a bad copy of 10-13b ... sigh.

I just grabbed another copy from that google file directory -
I have unzipped it and am trying again, and getting the same results -
maybe Google replaced the High Sierra beta zip file with an El Capitan zip file??


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You have to boot up off the flash drive to install (hold down Option key at startup and select drive)... You can't just run the El Capitan installer app from within the OS. The El Capitan installer is just a workaround, as the High Sierra installer has some issues. It still installs High Sierra regardless.
 
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I'm a dev... I downloaded the installer on my supported Mid 2010 MacBook, installed it to an external drive and then... Made a Sierra USB installer Patch stick. plugged the external drive in, booted from the USB Patcher, patched the High Sierra drive with the Sierra install patch tool and rebooted... can't wait until @dosdude1's new patcher comes out because that was a pain... but it works 100%, all sound and controls (and my Osxwifi,com airport card) i'm going to see if the night shift patch still works too
 
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Okay - I restored my main drive via Timemachine, and recreated the thumb drive, so I'll try that over the weekend ...
Thank you!

You have to boot up off the flash drive to install (hold down Option key at startup and select drive)... You can't just run the El Capitan installer app from within the OS. The El Capitan installer is just a workaround, as the High Sierra installer has some issues. It still installs High Sierra regardless.
 
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Just a heads up to everyone playing with the betas - appears the changes they've made to continuity to keep iMessage in sync may break your continuity if you're in mixed mode (i.e. - some systems still running Sierra and iOS 10 with the same iCloud account).

Out of the blue, all of my devices got out of sync two days ago...messages were not being replicated at all. Signed out of iCloud on all of my devices, removed the two MacBooks with HS from my support profile / iCloud devices and re-enrolled my devices into iCloud.

Heh. Think I'll wait for DP2 before I play with it again. :)
 
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You have to boot up off the flash drive to install (hold down Option key at startup and select drive)... You can't just run the El Capitan installer app from within the OS. The El Capitan installer is just a workaround, as the High Sierra installer has some issues. It still installs High Sierra regardless.

Got home a few minutes ago and restarted the machine.
Held down "Option" key and booted from the Install OS X thumb drive,
pointed it at my Macintosh HD and it said the OS was too old to install on my drive ...
So I pulled the thumb drive and booted Macintosh HD back into 10.12.5 Sierra ...

Oh well.
 
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For my don't have problem on MacBook Pro 13 (mid 2009).

i have use system of dosdude1, no problem, tanks......

I tried "newCore" but I did not run it while executing Foxlet instructions but I do not understand if I'm wrong ...

Well it's okay so the system in "APFS" will try it later or just understand where I'm wrong ...

thank you all.....
 
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Installed it onto my MacBook 5,1 (8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 128GB SSD)

Everyting works as it did in Sierra apart from not having any Trackpad Options.

No settings to make Tap to click to work or any of the multi finger gestures.

Was very straight forwarded to create a bootable USB using the Tool.

Love you work @dosdude1 & @foxlet
[doublepost=1497815874][/doublepost]Ditto for my MacBook5,1 setup with the 'dosdude1' HS patcher and "tap to click" -- a workaround is to use the third-party "MagicPrefs". It seems that to use this freebie app, setting the "One Finger Tap" pref to "Left Click" and "Two Finger Tap" to "Left Double Click" simulates this. What a thing for Apple to officially disable -- otherwise these venerable 2008 MacBooks are like Sherman tanks with an SSD.
 
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Thanks for this. This is awesome. In fact, I finally registered at MacRumors mainly for this thread.

I too have a MacBookPro5,5. After an initial tryout of Sierra on the 2009 13" MacBook Pro, I went back to El Capitan because the new features didn't really matter that much to me, especially since my main machine was a fully supported iMac Core i7 anyway.

However, High Sierra in some ways is a bigger change IMO than Sierra, at least outwardly to the end user. My main laptop going forward will be a 2017 Kaby Lake MacBook m3, but it's good to see I will be able to natively access HEIF files on this old 2009 machine. (I guess the same can be said for native HEVC support, although the laptop is way too slow to play those files at any decent resolution.)

I will be waiting for newCore 0.2 or later to give this a shot. It's a bonus the 2009 MacBook Pro will just be a fun testing machine as it is no longer my main laptop, so I don't care if it's an alpha installer running an early beta of macOS.

However, I do have one small request. Would it be possible to aggregate the relevant info and file links in a message or two somewhere? I had to read the entire thread to find out what to do. It would be easier one message (or a summary) could be continually updated to show the pertinent info, for us n00bs.

BTW, because I don't care about keeping the data and applications on this system, I can do whatever what I want with it. Would it be easiest to format as HFS+ as a clean install, and use the USB disk installer? Or is it a lot easier to stick with the two partition setup? My MacBook Pro only has 120 GB so two partitions would be problematic. Alternatively, I could keep a 10.12 Sierra on an external drive for troubleshooting, and make the internal 120 GB SSD one 10.13 High Sierra partition.

EDIT:

Oh I see:

"The first post in this thread is a WikiPost, and can be edited by anyone with the appropriate permissions."

I guess this will be updated periodically.
 
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I've done a preliminary update to macOS Sierra Patcher, just to add compatibility with the High Sierra installer. Keep in mind nothing else has changed, so I'm not sure if some of the post-install patches still work in High Sierra. Also, for those of you who cannot download a copy of High Sierra, I have a copy available for download here (if this is not allowed, let me know and I'll remove this link). Download "macOS High Sierra Patcher" here.

The link to the patch tool isn't working.
 
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If I use your current tool and I do a complete restore of my machine to High Sierra, Does it go to the APFS or still on HFS?
I would be using this on a Macbook Pro 5,1

Thanks!

HFS...

There is still no advancements in regard to make a clean install with APFS on unsupported macs yet, at least one that boots properlly... if you read about 2 pages back, you will find the answer to your question and a lot more.
 
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